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>>41874157
Nope, a conglomeration of every gen's villain was always going to feel forced , fanservicey, and unnecessary. Add to the fact that giovanni has a pretty one-dimensional personality and you've got a pretty boring postgame.

Though all the boss fights with the legendaries were cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 20:15:59 No.41874202 Report

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>>41874185
giovanni’s final appearance in the story should have been the time-limited event in HGSS, where he can rot in obscurity

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 20:16:40 No.41874210 Report

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>>41874157
Why is Mewtwo such a manlet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 20:18:22 No.41874229 Report

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>>41874157

Having them do more with the multiple universe concept that had been built up for years and not just have it be a boss rush

But that would have meant putting more effort in than the Delta Episode or whatever the fuck X/Y's postgame was

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 21:37:13 No.41875279 Report

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>>41874191
a man with taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQqBatjkLCg

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 22:50:13 No.41876363 Report

Quoted By: >>41877179 >>41877623 >>41877818 >>41877857

>>41874210
He is not though? That's your typical GF shit scaling.

>>41874166
>>41874185
>>41874197
Babies can't handle a CHAD villain. Too bad nobody cares about your pathetic opinion. Every relevant Pokemon fan supports the best team leader.

>>41874229
XY's postgame and Delta Episode are both great though. The writing is some of the best from recent games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 22:54:09 No.41876421 Report

Quoted By: >>41877012 >>41880659 >>41881039

>>41874191
>>41875279
This. I remember the leaks that suggested Ghetsis was playing everyone, using Giovanni as a puppet like with N, and would have taken over as the true final boss. Then the game releases and, although some of that is actually present, Giovanni is still given top billing and lead role because KANTOOOOOOOO. They didn't even give Ghetsis' Pokemon good sets - why the fuck is Hydreigon running Hyper Voice? Where's the one from B/W?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 22:55:47 No.41876449 Report

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>>41874157
It was their chance to introduce the Mask of Ice (Pryce) as a canon antagonist but they fucked it up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 23:30:56 No.41877012 Report

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>>41876421
ikr the one from B/W would make the kids fucking shit themselves compared to how easy everything is now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 23:32:42 No.41877037 Report

Quoted By: >>41877758

>>41874157
It felt like a bad rom hack
These guys are considered professionals by the way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 23:41:43 No.41877158 Report

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>>41874157
>>41874166
>>41874185
The leader should've been Ghetsis, when you meet Ghetsis he says Giovanni is pure evil or something which is fucking stupid. Ghetsis is way more evil than Giovanni i'd say.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 23:43:25 No.41877179 Report

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>>41876363
Masters did Giovanni justice. Really enjoying this event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 23:51:46 No.41877267 Report

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>>41874166
Giovanni is like, the one boss to not be insanely retarded.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:18:04 No.41877623 Report

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>>41876363
>Delta Episode
>The writing is some of the best from recent games

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:20:37 No.41877659 Report

Quoted By: >>41877704 >>41877725

>>41877179
Any interesting tidbits/a general summary of the event?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:22:11 No.41877677 Report

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>>41877267
Ghetsis wasn't retarded, considering his plans pretty much worked in terms of releasing everyone's Pokemon, taking down the League, and taking over Kyurem (none of it had retarded consequences like with Team Magma/Aqua either)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:23:39 No.41877704 Report

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>>41877659
Unlike basically every other trainer like Surge that's like "Oh boy I love hanging out with my Pokemon!" Gio has an actual personality that's villainous with a touch of moral ambiguity. One of the better characters in masters although to be fair that's not a high bar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:25:30 No.41877725 Report

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>>41877659
Not really. Masters Giovanni came from another world (possibly tie-in to USUM's Giovanni going to another world), Brock and Misty think it's their Giovanni, which annoys Giovanni to know that he's a villain even in other worlds. Giovanni doesn't know whether he'll continue his evil operations or participate in the tournament, but he agrees to stay with Scottie/Bettie's group so they can keep an eye on him either way

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:26:46 No.41877741 Report

Quoted By: >>41877816 >>41877853 >>41880783

>>41877677
Yeah, but. Just because people release their pokemon wouldn't mean they wouldn't still listen to their trainer. It's not like Pokeballs brainwash pokemon into listening to them.
Besides, Ghetsis would've been in power until someone from the region over came and put a stop to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:27:58 No.41877758 Report

Quoted By: >>41877824 >>41879820

>>41877037
You know, I wouldn't mind playing a romhack, where the player gets transported into regions where the bad guy has already won, and now they're tasked with saving the region when the bad guys are at their highest. It honestly sounds fun.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:28:23 No.41877765 Report

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>>41877267
Guzma? Seems like a pretty chill dude. I'd hang with him desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:29:17 No.41877775 Report

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>>41877725
but... it is their giovanni, at least the giovanni that was never defeated by red. their hate is the same either way

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:31:52 No.41877816 Report

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>>41877741
N was likely stronger than or on par with the other regions' strongest trainers too, because he was Champion level on top of having a legendary. BW even makes a point that Sinnoh would've been in trouble by showing that Hilbert/Hilda can beat Cynthia

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:32:01 No.41877818 Report

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>>41876363
>Delta Episode
>The writing is some of the best from recent games.
autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:32:23 No.41877824 Report

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>>41877758
Doesn’t sound too bad honestly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:34:11 No.41877853 Report

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>>41877741
plan wasn't just releasing the pokemon, it was stealing the released pokemon backhandedly. With N as the King, he could just use N's influence on the region (doing the crimes he wanted to do as the corrupt prime minister of sorts). And they'd not fight back out of fear/respect of Zek/Reshi

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:34:36 No.41877857 Report

Quoted By: >>41877901

>>41876363
>Giovanni
>Chad
He's the 8th Gym Leader but you beat his ass before even getting the 4th gym badge, nevermind the fact that most of his Pokémon are so fucking garbage they had to give him a fucking Mewtwo just to present a semblance of a challenge. Not to mention him randomly deciding to take over the multiverse almost puts him in Lysandre and Rose levels of retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 00:38:18 No.41877901 Report

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>>41877775
They mention that Team Rocket disbanded. The Giovanni in the event is Rainbow Rocket Giovanni.
>>41877857
>Not to mention him randomly deciding to take over the multiverse almost puts him in Lysandre and Rose levels of retard.
No, because Giovanni isn't doing it out of some misguided attempt at saving the world from a problem that is either a ways off or is non-existent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 01:13:48 No.41878344 Report

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>>41874157
So lazy, why where there only rocket grunts? How about a little variety.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 01:14:44 No.41878350 Report

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>>41877267
Imagine living a world with magical creatures and settling for petty crime

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 02:17:09 No.41879247 Report

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Rainbow Rocket should have happened over the course of the game instead of being a postgame boss rush
>You go to the first trial only to find the Subspace Recon crew has quarantined it off
>The game proceeds just like SM but characters will randomly go missing as of they never existed at all
>In their place are the old team leaders
>Rainbow Rocket slowly takes over Unova
>Recon crew is actually investigating the changes in the timeline
>All the changes impact Lusamine the most
>Eventually Lily goes missing trying to save Nebby from Giovanni
>You and your friends attack Rainbow Rocket headquarters with the help of Colress
>Giovanni awakens Necrozma
>Colress awakens Zygarde complete
>You're caught in the middle

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 02:57:30 No.41879820 Report

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>>41877758
that's kind of insurgence, at least at certain points in the plot

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 03:09:49 No.41879963 Report

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>Ruined the whole thing with Lusamine and made her a dindu.

No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 03:24:23 No.41880154 Report

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>>41877267
That's adorable that you think that. Unless you're over 6 years old. Then you're just retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 03:36:37 No.41880322 Report

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>>41879963
This.
I'd rather have Lusamine's story go unfucked.
The whole storyline in USUM could've been condensed down into a great post-game storyline for Sun and Moon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 03:40:17 No.41880354 Report

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>>41874166
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 04:00:42 No.41880659 Report

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>>41876421
It shows that some guys at gf still love unova enough to throw it a bone every now and then even when the rest want to abandon it because muh sales

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 04:05:32 No.41880718 Report

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>>41874157
It was fucking retarded. The only ones with any reason to want multiversal conquest would be Ghetsis and Cyrus and it would make little to no sense for them to recruit anyone else when they could just steal their pokemon for themselves. The only way this could've been salvaged is if there was some new donut steel OC who hopped across the multiverse wrecking player characters of past gens and stealing their box legends for some grand plan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 04:09:12 No.41880783 Report

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>>41877741
>t's not like Pokeballs brainwash pokemon into listening to them.
Actually it's heavily implied they do exactly that
>>41877741
>Ghetsis would've been in power until someone from the region over came and put a stop to it.
Like who? On top of being stronger than any known champion the dude had a box legend on his team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 04:28:28 No.41881039 Report

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>>41874191
>>41876421
>>41877158
For what it's worth, Ghetsis got the most love out of the villain returns.

>Talks shit about the others when they lose
>Has more of a plan than the others
>Says that he wants multiversal domination
>Establishes that he's planning on making Giovanni a puppet king for his own deeds (sadly this doesn't happen in-game)
>Smacks Lillie and holds her hostage
>Colress has to come in and help you deal with him

Him and Cyrus were the only ones who had any impact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 04:35:18 No.41881129 Report

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>>41880154
Whoa whoa big boy.
How a guy who just wants to steal animals and do some illegal shit like farming Slowpoke tails is less insane than "I want to flood the world" and "I want to kill everyone" and "I want to become a God because I hate emotions" and "I will take care of this kid for 15 years so he can be the key in my overly convoluted master plan to take every Pokemon"?

The only thing that he did that was close to that is leaving Team Rocket after being beaten by the player because he had a change of heart.

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