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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:31:51 No.41891892 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41891968 >>41892049 >>41892091 >>41892151 >>41892757 >>41894221 >>41896982 >>41897049 >>41897144 >>41898408

Pokemon gameplay hasn't evolved since 1996.
How do you twist it ?

Here's my contribution; make positioning important in battle:
>Turn starts with both pkmn face to face
>You choose your attack and then you can either choose to change your pkmn position and attack from a different direction or guard one of your side after attacking
>You can't crit or have super effective damage on a guarded side and other attacks have damages divided by 2
>Attacks have different side effects depending on the direction you attack from (buffs/debuffs/chance to inflict status/heal/more damage etc...)

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:34:14 No.41891930 Report

Quoted By: >>41891961 >>41891968 >>41899117

Pourquoi le VP est envahi par les français ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:36:09 No.41891961 Report

Quoted By: >>41892026

>>41891930
Parce que les français aussi aiment Pokémon ?

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:36:34 No.41891968 Report

Quoted By: >>41892040

>>41891892
It probably sounded cooler in your head.
I count the sidegames as "pokemon gameplay" so things like Pokken work for me.

>>41891930
Bonjour.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:40:20 No.41892026 Report

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>>41891961

Le 18-25 plante son drapeau.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:41:21 No.41892040 Report

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>>41891968
I was talking about the mainline games.
Why don't you think it's cool ? It could make more attacks useful in strategy since they have 3 different effects

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:41:56 No.41892049 Report

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>>41891892
dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:42:57 No.41892065 Report

Quoted By: >>41892086

The gameplay is fine. The real problem is how battles are presented.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:43:17 No.41892070 Report

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>>41892026
Bien le bonsoir, khey

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:44:20 No.41892086 Report

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>>41892065
How could GF improve it ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:44:33 No.41892091 Report

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>>41891892
Make double battles the standard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:47:49 No.41892149 Report

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>>41892086
Take some pointers from the anime for animations and such

It just needs to look like Pokemon are actually fighting instead of having a glorified slapfight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:48:00 No.41892151 Report

Quoted By: >>41898423

>>41891892
Battles where both sides have all six of their Pokemon on the field at once. The field is a 6x6 grid, and you get to move your Pokemon at the start of each turn, speed now determining how many squares a Pokemon can move per turn rather than just who moves first. The position of your Pokemon on the field is important, as moves now center around range rather than accuracy, and you can also set up offensive or defensive formations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:53:51 No.41892222 Report

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>>41892086
Make animations faster so shit doesn't drag out. Instead of always the first Pokemon in your party to fight, give us the option to choose what Pokemon we want to through out. Give us difficulty options on top of letting us choose our format of preference (stop enforcing singles and them proceed to make VGC doubles, you fucking retarded company). Opposing trainers can swap out Pokemon as well and have them come up with strategies or give their team good coverage. Make Pokemon more expressive, just like the every Stadium, Colosseum and PBR game.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 22:32:17 No.41892757 Report

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>>41891892
Poképark 2 did battles PERFECTLY (Didn't play PokéPark 1 so idk if they work the same way)
>in real-time so no turn-based shit
>each button corresponds to a specific move, still a 4-move limit
>dodging is based on your own reflexes and not RNG
>no weird side-angle phase-shift and synergy/summon gimmick like Pokken
It felt like I was experiencing what a Pokémon battle looks like in the anime, this is what the Main series battles should be. Stats can still grow and be altered like they do now, but they alter the way you battle in a way you can actually see just by the model (high speed results in moving faster when running and dodging, ect)

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 22:42:26 No.41892902 Report

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>>41892757
>zoom zoom still can't into turn-based strategy

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Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 00:07:42 No.41894221 Report

Quoted By: >>41896523

>>41891892
I don't think innovation is to be found in battle gimmicks. The battle mechanics of Pokémon are fairly fun and (can be) quite intricate as they currently are, and series like Dragon Quest put out quality games to this day without significant changes to their battle formula. The issue is that, overwhelmingly, Pokémon games don't make use of any of the existing mechanics beyond the rock-paper-scizzors type matchups.

So one fix might be to make more interesting strategies (boosting moves, baton passing, status ailments, etc.) more mandatory to beat certain challenges -- cap levels and give NPCs actually well-composed teams or something so you can't just power your way through what could otherwise be fun battles (but are, at the moment, just annoying roadblocks more than anything).

think new life can be best added to the games more through environmental changes. So, I don't know, maybe rearranging how Pokécenters and healing items work, changing how leveling works, even changing obedience so you have to work to make a Pokémon obey you, changing opponents' teams and AI so you actually need a strategy beyond "rock beats paper lol." I mean this is all stupid shit I've come up with in two minutes, I'm sure a team of proper game devs could come up with something to shake-up the formula that isn't just "BIG POKEMON WOW"

also an actually decent story would help -- there could be goals other than "i'm going to become the champion" or "i'm going to take down X retarded team with Y retarded goals" -- maybe there could be a profession system so you can specialize in, I don't know, breeding pokemon (maybe for elite trainers you can then battle) or running a gym (or managing a league) or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 02:52:09 No.41896267 Report

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>>41892149
PBR did this pretty well. You had a Pokemon walk up to another and perform a physical attack animation and the target would perform a hit react as soon as the model made 'contact', and any disparity was covered up by the particle effect that's normally all you get in these games. It was the perfect middleground between making the battles look flashy and spectacular and leaving some room to interpretation as to how it would actually look in a fight, which was a charming positive of the old stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 03:18:35 No.41896523 Report

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>>41894221
>proffession system
Based and redpilled.
Imagine players specking into a skill system where they can specialize in breeding to get Pokemon with good IVs and Natures consistently, or berry farming to rake in a large amounts of powerful berries, or training to get Pokemon up to full power consistently, or even create a crafting system which lets you make items like Poke balls, potions and battle items, held items, and consumables like vitamins, but no more than one at a time.
Then you create something similar to Join Avenue, where you can go to market and sell all of your stuff to other players for special tokens. These tokens are converted from money, BP, arcade coins, and any other currency, that you purchase with those currencies, and then you can convert it back into the currency that you want. You can put all of the prices yourself, and your customer can either buy it there or place a certain number of your stock on hold to negotiate a price, which also allows you to barter with items or even Pokemon for your item.
The possibities are endless, really. If only GF put in a little thought, we could have a great online like nothing seen in a Pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 04:17:42 No.41896982 Report

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>>41891892
You literally described Dragonball Fusions gameplay. While cool, it gets boring pretty quick. And the same can be accomplished by just having RNG for another mechanic added in. Most times in Fusions the computer wouldn’t even pick the side that would correspond to you hitting and getting a ring out on them, the ring out causing more damage and stalling them because it was determined randomly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 04:24:24 No.41897049 Report

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>>41891892
Wrong
>gen 1
made the battle system
>gen 2
Held items
>gen 3
Abilities
>gen 4
The split
>gen 5
Nothing
>gen 6
Megas
>gen 7
>Z moves
>Gen 8
Dynashit

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Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 04:37:45 No.41897144 Report

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>>41891892
Pokemon Battle Network

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Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 07:10:41 No.41898335 Report

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>>41892086

There's a fangame that comes up a lot here called Pokemon Reborn. It's got a shitty story but it introduces an insanely fun mechanic based on anime battles:
Every gym leader battle has a "field effect", usually similar to the terrain moves, which usually benefits the gym leader's pokemon, but can also be turned against them.

For example, the grass gym leader has a grassy terrain like field affect which absorbs water, reduces the power of earthquake and boosts grass type moves. But you can set the field on fire with a fire type move and negate all the positive effects it has on the gym leader's team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 07:20:42 No.41898408 Report

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>>41891892
Have doubles or rotation battles be the standard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 07:23:08 No.41898423 Report

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>>41892151
So. Conquest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 09:00:05 No.41899117 Report

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>>41891930
fuck off froggy faguette

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