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Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:05:06 No.41919817 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41920384 >>41920701 >>41920702 >>41920846 >>41920900 >>41922941 >>41922991 >>41923135 >>41923233

How was it able to avoid stealth rock?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:06:19 No.41919830 Report

Quoted By: >>41920030 >>41920480

by being the bravest bird around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:19:36 No.41920030 Report

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>>41919830
No idea how it made it a good revenge killer if rocks were in play

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:43:23 No.41920384 Report

Quoted By: >>41920437

>>41919817
heavy duty boots

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:46:25 No.41920437 Report

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>>41920384
PUREASU UNTERSDANTU TALONFLAME NOT ALLOWEDU IN GALARU

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Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:47:33 No.41920452 Report

Quoted By: >>41920702

how was it able to avoid stealth rock?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:49:01 No.41920480 Report

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>>41919830
He was too brave for this world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:52:14 No.41920534 Report

Quoted By: >>41923158

>Heavy duty boots get introduced
>Almost all pokemon who would have benefitted from them are cut
This franchise is a fucking joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:53:52 No.41920561 Report

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>Latios used Defog!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:56:26 No.41920592 Report

Quoted By: >>41920670 >>41920737

talonflame isn't as good as people remember and the fact that it pretty much demands starmie support is one of the big reasons why

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:02:41 No.41920670 Report

Quoted By: >>41920752 >>41920884

>>41920592
Yes it was. Everyone used it in all parts of the ladder. Starmie on the other hand wasn't necessary

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:04:57 No.41920701 Report

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>>41919817
Lead + taunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:05:00 No.41920702 Report

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>>41919817
>>41920452
If a pokemon is good, being weak to rock doesnt matter, as they can cover the price, non-mega Charizard is just bad, no matter if he wear shoes or boots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:06:47 No.41920737 Report

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>>41920592
>120 BP Stab move with priority
>WoW, roost, taunt, U-turn
>Flare Blitz if you really care about coverage
It was on the frail side but if you had good RS/Defog support it was a huge boon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:07:27 No.41920752 Report

Quoted By: >>41920817 >>41920841 >>41920842

>>41920670
it was god tier when people had no idea what to do against it, have you seen the meta lately? people are way better prepared for it and you need way more consistent hazard control to back it up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:08:12 No.41920765 Report

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It was ALL about that Gale Wings

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:09:39 No.41920790 Report

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I know he was broken..
but I miss him
Despite the shitty name Talonflame is a pretty cool pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:10:54 No.41920817 Report

Quoted By: >>41920830

>>41920752
Talonflame isnt as good because (it doesnt exist anymore) gale wings require 100% health to active.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:11:42 No.41920830 Report

Quoted By: >>41920867

>>41920817
not talking about usum

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:12:15 No.41920841 Report

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>>41920752
>check the ORAS OU tier list for the first time since 2015
>C+
What? I remember it always being in A's

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:12:18 No.41920842 Report

Quoted By: >>41920867

>>41920752
It's easy to be prepared for Talonflame now that it's a Pidgey-tier shitmon thanks to the nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:12:44 No.41920846 Report

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>>41919817
Defog

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:14:05 No.41920867 Report

Quoted By: >>41920889

>>41920841
it's not quite c+ since c+ on that list is more like b+ on any other list but it's way less common and good in the current meta because it needs to be built around
>>41920842
see >>41920830

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:15:36 No.41920884 Report

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>>41920670
>the 2nd most reliable spinner isn't necessary

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:16:16 No.41920889 Report

Quoted By: >>41920985

>>41920867
What meta shift had occurred to make Talonflame drop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:16:54 No.41920900 Report

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>>41919817
He did nothing wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:22:09 No.41920985 Report

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>>41920889
removing hazards became a bigger pain in the ass, you can't expect to just throw choice defog latios somewhere and clear hazards reliably so you pretty much need to build around like talon+hippo+starmie. lando, tyranitar, and tankchomp (although this set's a bit less common now) are also omnipresent and that makes talon's job harder too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:33:34 No.41922941 Report

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>>41919817
Bro, just lead with him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:37:48 No.41922991 Report

Quoted By: >>41923928

>>41919817
This thing was insanely broken in its debut generation, but smogon wouldnt ban it to Ubers because their precious rainbow phoenix in ubers would be out shined by STAB priority flying type moves.
Nerfing Talonflame is probably the only thing Gamefreak has done right in recent memory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:48:52 No.41923135 Report

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>>41919817
Can’t believe they nerfed it’s ability. One of the best Pokémon ever made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:50:43 No.41923158 Report

Quoted By: >>41923209

>>41920534
Except Charizard, but he still sucks anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:53:29 No.41923209 Report

Quoted By: >>41923244

>>41923158
What could Gamefreak possibly do to make Charizard viable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:55:07 No.41923233 Report

Quoted By: >>41923488

>>41919817
>XY
Priority Roost so it could heal off damage
>SM
Lead with setup to nuke the fuck out of shit

I get the feeling it would be a Boots user with the occasional SD set (Steelspike would be pretty useful) without any speed investment due to Airstream shenanigans since it already has fuckhuge Speed to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:55:50 No.41923244 Report

Quoted By: >>41923274

>>41923209
What they already did; make it an entirely different pokemon with better stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:57:51 No.41923274 Report

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>>41923244
But both of those Pokemon were cut.
Does Masuda secretly hate Charizard?

Emperor Palpitoad

Emperor Palpitoad Sun 15 Dec 2019 01:14:10 No.41923488 Report

Quoted By: >>41923852

>>41923233
>priority roost

That just makes it vulnerable to earthquake,
I STILL don't get it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 01:37:56 No.41923852 Report

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>>41923488
Probably, because, people switch after it roosted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 01:43:15 No.41923928 Report

Quoted By: >>41924204

>>41922991
>but smogon wouldnt ban it to Ubers because their precious rainbow phoenix in ubers would be out shined by STAB priority flying type moves
You retarded? You can use any lower tier Pokemon in any tier above.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 02:02:54 No.41924204 Report

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>>41923928
>replying to bait

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