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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 04:48:45 No.41957511 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41957533 >>41957650 >>41957683 >>41957706 >>41958064

All they had to do was throwing Gyarados, Togekiss and maybe Hawlucha to ubers.
But no, the retards needed to show how colossally retarded they are to the world.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 04:50:40 No.41957528 Report

Quoted By: >>41957546 >>41957706 >>41957740

>b-but other pokemon will just replace them!
>I won't elaborate on my point at all, btw, just trust me that other pokemon will replace them because I said so

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 04:51:17 No.41957533 Report

Quoted By: >>41957546 >>41957740

>>41957511
And then other Pokemon would rise in their place, leading to them getting banned too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 04:51:40 No.41957539 Report

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that just sounds really unecessary

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 04:52:21 No.41957546 Report

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>>41957528
>>41957533
Like fucking clockwork.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:00:11 No.41957650 Report

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>>41957511
The dumb sweepers were not even the worst part about dynamax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:03:19 No.41957683 Report

Quoted By: >>41957697

>>41957511
>ban multiple pokemon that are not busted in the slightest on their own or ban the gimmick that makes them busted
gee what to do

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:04:15 No.41957697 Report

Quoted By: >>41957744 >>41957765 >>41957768

>>41957683
Yeah, you're right, Blaziken isn't busted on its own so we should just Speed Boost instead.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:04:53 No.41957706 Report

Quoted By: >>41957717

>>41957511
>>41957528
>I refuse to read the reasoning behind this and properly educate myself, so I'll just assume it's because they can't play and are as stupid as I am!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:06:06 No.41957717 Report

Quoted By: >>41957800

>>41957706
>"other pokemon will replace them because I said so" is reasoning

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:08:07 No.41957740 Report

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>>41957528
>>41957533
Absolutely based

Anon is right.
Dynamax Gyarados is insane broken.
Dynamax Toxapex is a literal joke.

The HURR OTHA POKEEMAN WILL REPLACE THEM is a baseless fallacy.
No other Pokemon has Dynamax has the potential Gyarados has.

The factors that make Dynamax currently broken are a combination of these two:
>Speed boost
Flying move (i.e. Gyarados, Togekiss)
Double speed ability (Sand Rush, Swift Swim, Unburden)

>Boost offensive
Be fire/water type for STAB sun/rain
Have fighting move for Max Knuckle
Have Poison move for Max Ooze (near unused so far)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:08:28 No.41957744 Report

Quoted By: >>41957793

>>41957697
Speed Boost is only broken when Blaziken uses it, every other Pokemon that has it is still manageable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:10:23 No.41957765 Report

Quoted By: >>41957793 >>41957898

>>41957697
Blaziken is stuck in Ubers purely because no one in their right mind would bother with Blaze Blaziken, they could just ban Speed Boost Blaziken but no one cares enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:11:03 No.41957768 Report

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>>41957697
Doing shit like escaping choice lock, Max boosts and setting up weather/terrain on top of hefty damage is something more than a few pokemon can do. Some like Barraskewda can do all of them (Max Geyser for Rain, Max Knuckle for Attack boosts, Max Mindstorm for Pex and negating priority, and once the three turns are over, you can have the perfect banned Swift Swim murderfish to play with ).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:13:03 No.41957793 Report

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>>41957744
>Speed Boost is only broken when Blaziken uses it
Just like Dynamax is only broken when Gyarados, Hawlucha, Togekiss, etc use it. Unless you want to fucking argue Dynamax Toxapex is broken.

>>41957765
>Doing shit like escaping choice lock, Max boosts and setting up weather/terrain on top of hefty damage is something more than a few pokemon can do
And? Barely any of them are actually broken with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:13:37 No.41957800 Report

Quoted By: >>41957804

>>41957717
Read the actual threads, you illiterate dunce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:14:07 No.41957804 Report

Quoted By: >>41958181

>>41957800
>I can't post any arguments myself so please go see these nonexistent arguments someone else made

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:20:51 No.41957882 Report

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I remember my attempt at samefaggotry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:22:11 No.41957898 Report

Quoted By: >>41957919 >>41957946 >>41957972 >>41957996

>>41957765
Never understood why Blaze Blaziken was uber.
According to Smogonshitters, it was because "banning abilities on certain Pokemon" would allow endless suspects in UU and lower.
Yet in gen 7, Zygarde 10% was allowed in OU as long it didn't have power construct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:24:49 No.41957919 Report

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>>41957898
The real answer is it's simply impossible for a massive bureaucracy such as Smogon that makes changes the way it does to have everything align perfectly from first principles.

It was a lost cause after the end of gen 4.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:25:44 No.41957932 Report

Quoted By: >>41957945

people who are better than you, who learned to abuse dynamax and got 33/7 records or better, voted on it. because they know better than you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:26:38 No.41957945 Report

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>>41957932
>flipflops on gen 5 for the fourth time in a year

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:26:37 No.41957946 Report

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>>41957898
C'mon man it's pretty obvious why that's the case with Zygarde.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:28:44 No.41957972 Report

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>>41957898
Power Construct was not banned. Zygarde-Complete itself was banned and Power Construct was banned by proxy since it's the only way to access the form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:30:55 No.41957996 Report

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>>41957898
Zygarde is literally the only fucking Pokemon that gets Power Construct. Zygarde with Power Construct is not banned, Power Construct itself is banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:37:02 No.41958064 Report

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>>41957511
fuck off
they already cut the dex and you want to ban perfectly fine pokemon just to keep the dumbest mechanic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:41:58 No.41958123 Report

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Based, when are they banning moves with sub 100% accuracy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:46:12 No.41958181 Report

Quoted By: >>41958188

>>41957804
>i can't find the threads so they don't exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 05:46:27 No.41958188 Report

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>>41958181
>I can't make an argument so they do exist

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