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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:10:57 No.41959168 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41959297 >>41959303 >>41959306 >>41959322 >>41959324 >>41959326 >>41959342 >>41959353 >>41959512 >>41961087 >>41961198 >>41961232 >>41961962 >>41963516

Now Smogon have decided to ban Dynomax, who can we expect to rise and fall currently in OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:18:45 No.41959267 Report

Quoted By: >>41959512

Anyone who uses choice items falls

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:21:39 No.41959297 Report

Quoted By: >>41959318 >>41959328 >>41959350 >>41959450 >>41959515

>>41959168
Who cares? Play VGC instead. It's the official meta in case you didn't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:22:36 No.41959303 Report

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>>41959168
It's going to be Ferro Toxapex Corviknight cores forever now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:22:41 No.41959306 Report

Quoted By: >>41959318 >>41959350 >>41959450 >>41959515 >>41962050

>>41959168
I just play VGC, it's much better because we don't ban things and you get to play in official tournaments with prizes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:23:26 No.41959318 Report

Quoted By: >>41959334 >>41959335 >>41959345

>>41959297
>>41959306
>samefagging vgcshill
lmao enjoy your fake out+intimidate+protect spam garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:23:42 No.41959322 Report

Quoted By: >>41959450

>>41959168
>fanfic meta
Who cares, it isn't even an official metagame endorsed by Nintendo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:23:50 No.41959324 Report

Quoted By: >>41961108

>>41959168
Hawlucha will disappear probably. Gyrados will likely fall a bit but likely still be relevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:24:02 No.41959326 Report

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>>41959168
Ditto may drop off the face of the Earth; it was only used so much due to Dynamaxing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:24:06 No.41959328 Report

Quoted By: >>41959345

>>41959297
>actively shilling for an objectively unbalanced pile of dogshit because #NotMyMeta

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:24:28 No.41959334 Report

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>>41959318
They nerfed all three of those things to shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:24:43 No.41959335 Report

Quoted By: >>41959384

>>41959318
>woah no way two VGChads in one place
>this has gotta be a samefag bro
Smogonfags everyone...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:25:45 No.41959342 Report

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>>41959168
I don't know or care because I only play the official meta of VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:25:55 No.41959345 Report

Quoted By: >>41959356 >>41959450

>>41959318
>>41959328
Faggots who choose to be in their echo chambers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:26:39 No.41959350 Report

Quoted By: >>41959364 >>41959368 >>41959378 >>41959380 >>41959407 >>41959514 >>41959541

>>41959297
>>41959306
Why are VGCfags more obnoxious this gen? What changed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:27:03 No.41959353 Report

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>>41959168
Who gives a shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:27:26 No.41959356 Report

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>>41959345
I play AG, you projecting faggot, but nice try

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:28:16 No.41959364 Report

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>>41959350
I notice they've just been getting more and more annoying since gen 6, around when Pachirisu won worlds and Greninja was banned from OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:28:27 No.41959368 Report

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>>41959350
because "MuH OfFiSHul MEtA!!1!1!" is all they can cling onto at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:29:11 No.41959378 Report

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>>41959350
maybe the fatigue of being unnoticed while everyone plays smogon formats is starting to wear them down

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:29:14 No.41959380 Report

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>>41959350
It's just one autist that moved to /vp/ recently. All his posts are the same words rearranged. Wouldn't be surprised if it was a bot scripted to reply to every thread with Smogon in the OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:29:22 No.41959384 Report

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>>41959335
>posts almost exactly one minute apart
>poster count didn't go up for his second post
it doesn't take a fucking rocket scientist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:31:26 No.41959407 Report

Quoted By: >>41959417 >>41959429 >>41959438 >>41959450 >>41959459

>>41959350
Because I come to this board to talk about Pokemon (actual official Pokemon that is) and all I see here is your fanfic meta bullshit. Gtfo while the adults play the real game, capisce?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:32:59 No.41959417 Report

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>>41959407
Let me guess, you're gonna call me a tranny too, aren't you?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:33:51 No.41959429 Report

Quoted By: >>41959455

>>41959407
>strutting onto 4chan dot org as if you own the place and expecting a single (1) soul to listen to your autistic screeching
ok who let the redditors out of their containment unit again

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:34:31 No.41959438 Report

Quoted By: >>41959455

>>41959407
>While adults play the real game
Anon, we're both on an imitation of a Japanese message board devoted entirely to a series of games intended for children, which was only created because the playerbase on 4chan got out of control and had to be contained, akin to MLP. You really aren't in a position to try and act more mature than anyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:36:08 No.41959450 Report

Quoted By: >>41959465

>>41959297
>>41959306
>>41959322
>>41959345
>>41959407
LIKE
POTTERY

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:36:49 No.41959455 Report

Quoted By: >>41959465 >>41959480

>>41959438
>>41959429
You guys literally play a fanfic meta lol. It isn't even real, it's a work of literal fiction. Meanwhile VGChads attend official tournaments in the REAL world. You are basically just playing pretend while we get down to business. Stay seething.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:37:30 No.41959459 Report

Quoted By: >>41959478

>>41959407
>"Gtfo while the adults play the real game, capisce?"
Imagine taking a Video Game meant for Children this seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:37:58 No.41959465 Report

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>>41959450
>>41959455
>>41956660
>single autist on total damage control to keep his flaming trash heap of a meta afloat
OH NO NO NO NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:38:57 No.41959478 Report

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>>41959459
Imagine making up rules to a literal children's game because it's too hard the way it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:39:11 No.41959480 Report

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>>41959455
In a sense yes, also VGC is more strategically complex and is more interesting this gen now that the overcentralizing aspects were nerfed. But until the games are actually built around doubles instead of being single battles for 99% of the game, nobody will care, since they will always perceive singles as the "normal" way to play. Blame GF

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:41:57 No.41959512 Report

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>>41959267
>>41959168
Except for Gdarmanitan
Gdarmanitan always lives
Always

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:42:17 No.41959514 Report

Quoted By: >>41959572 >>41959673 >>41961208

>>41959350
I think it's because of Dynamax.
Dynamax is shit, and VGCucks know it. At least subconsciously.
But it's the main gimmick of gen 8. So VGC can't ban it because Gamefreak would never let the main mechanic that they worked so hard on be banned, no matter how poisonous it is to the meta.
Smogon, on the other hand, is a fanfic meta. That means it has the freedom to make the meta better than an official format would allow. Also worse, but in this generation, it's very obviously better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:42:27 No.41959515 Report

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>>41959297
>>41959306
Based and truthpilled
Smogontrannies SEETHING

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:44:59 No.41959541 Report

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>>41959350
Fanfic metas shouldn't be more popular than the official meta just because it caters to noobs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:48:04 No.41959572 Report

Quoted By: >>41959679 >>41959715

>>41959514
Dynamax actually improves VGC tho. It was clearly made for that format

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:57:17 No.41959652 Report

Quoted By: >>41959743

Knew it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:59:30 No.41959673 Report

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>>41959514
Dynamax was clearly made with Doubles in mind, and is actually somewhat balanced in it. It's much easier to take them down, since Pokemon can gang up on a single target.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 07:59:44 No.41959676 Report

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>all these VGCucks in this thread
I bet fucking none of you even play that format to begin with. Post your ranking right now, I fucking dare you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 08:00:17 No.41959679 Report

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>>41959572
Designing a mechanic for one format without trying to balance it for the one most people would go through and play the most will never not boggle my mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 08:04:48 No.41959715 Report

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>>41959572
No it doesnt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 08:06:03 No.41959728 Report

Quoted By: >>41959979

>every competitive thread is dead hijacked or complaining about the hijacking
>exactly 0 actual vgc discussion taking place
good job faglords enjoy your replies

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 08:08:18 No.41959743 Report

Quoted By: >>41961059 >>41961107 >>41964077

>>41959652
I don't know who's more autistic, the retards being called out by these infographics or the retards that take the time and effort to make them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 08:41:30 No.41959979 Report

Quoted By: >>41960174

>>41959728
Funny thing is I was just trying to understand which pokes might rise/fall in OU lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 09:13:26 No.41960174 Report

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>>41959979
Clefable will rise, as will Galarian Corsola

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:00:27 No.41961059 Report

Quoted By:

>>41959743
There's nothing retarded in BTFOing retards in this website, fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:05:05 No.41961087 Report

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>>41959168
togekiss and ditto will surely drop
hawlucha have a chance to stay in ou with brave bird+white herb
unsure on toxtricity, he could abuse dynamax but seems good even without it
gyarados will probably drop

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:08:32 No.41961105 Report

Quoted By: >>41961120 >>41963661

Is PS down or just me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:08:36 No.41961107 Report

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>>41959743
Probably the retards getting caught out. There's more time and effort invested in shilling and shitposting wholeheartedly than in a bit of autistic internet detective play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:09:39 No.41961108 Report

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>>41959324
Lucha may come back when Rillaboom gets it's HA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:12:31 No.41961120 Report

Quoted By: >>41963661

>>41961105
it is down since yesterday I believe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:14:54 No.41961133 Report

Quoted By: >>41961140 >>41961192

>Drops within tier
Gyara
Ditto

>Drops potentially out of tier
Tox
Hawlucha
Togekiss

>Rises within tier
Conk
Pelipper/Skewda

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:16:33 No.41961140 Report

Quoted By: >>41961166

>>41961133
Lucha has more ways to activate unburden though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:21:24 No.41961166 Report

Quoted By: >>41961174

>>41961140
While true, it's still specially fragile and pretty easy to wall physically either through screens or just with bulky mons. Without those free boosts from seeds or Dynamax, Lucha might not be able to cut it anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:23:06 No.41961174 Report

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>>41961166
Yeah, maybe Rillaboom can help him out when it gets Grassy Surge

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:27:28 No.41961192 Report

Quoted By: >>41961265

>>41961133
>>Drops potentially out of tier
>Tox
If anything it will see more usage with UNGA BUNGA button gone

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:28:14 No.41961198 Report

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>>41959168
>posting the shitty version of this pic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:30:58 No.41961208 Report

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>>41959514
This sounds really plausible.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:34:02 No.41961224 Report

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>This ban is unfair! I want MUH BIG CHARIZARD GIVE IT BACK!
>Just adapt to an instant win button!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:34:52 No.41961232 Report

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>>41959168
Togekiss, Ditto, Gyarados and Hawlucha will drop in usage, Aegislash, Clefable, Toxapex, Ferrothorn and Corsola will definitely rise in usage, also stall in general will be more prevalent. Pokemon relying entirely on Dynamax like Centiskorch, Durant, Copperajah etc. will never see use in OU again. Obstagoon will likely rise up to OU to deal with Corsola, in addition wallbreakers like NP Hydreigon and Dracovish will see more use because of the stall rennaisance.
Banning Dynamax was still the right thing to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:40:22 No.41961265 Report

Quoted By: >>41961279

>>41961192
It fucks sub-setters for sure but it's just not that great of a Spec bomber given 75/70/70 defenses and speed that's both too slow to compete normally but also too fast for Trick Room. Add a pretty bad defensive typing on top of that and the writing's on the wall that it might not be sticking around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 12:43:32 No.41961279 Report

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>>41961265
Oooh, toxtricity. I was thinking toxapex. Yeah I agree lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 14:17:09 No.41961962 Report

Quoted By:

>>41959168
Indeedee probably gets an OU niche setting up terrain for Lucha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 14:22:06 No.41962016 Report

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is there any way to disable dynamax in singles so i can play on cart or will i have to use showdown now to play without it? id prefer playing without dynamax and would also like to play on cart but i dont think i can disable it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 14:25:58 No.41962050 Report

Quoted By: >>41962338

>>41959306
I actually play VGC and the amount of false shit that's spewed here is hilarious. Yes VGC is a much faster meta but it also was really fucking close to dying for like 75% of USUM because Gamefreak doesn't give a fuck and you only use the same 4 Pokemon pretty much. TCG players outnumber VGC players at locals/regionals by like 10x the number of entrees which wasn't always the case. Also you don't even get real prizes if you're an adult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 15:01:26 No.41962338 Report

Quoted By: >>41962468

>>41962050
>was really fucking close to dying for like 75% of USUM
No shit nobody enjoyed the legendary shitfest meta featuring Tony the U-turn spammer faggot. Same thing happened in VGC16, except the 19 meta consisted of more than 1 viable team archetype.

>TCG players outnumber VGC players at locals/regionals by like 10x the number of entrees which wasn't always the case.
Pretty sure it always was the case. TCG circuit runs since the early 00s I believe and its the format everyone who plays TCG competitively uses. Meanwhile the VG community is split between the fanmade singles 6v6 format and official 4v4 doubles format, which was only created several years after the former was already well estabilished.

>Also you don't even get real prizes if you're an adult.
You get prize money directly into your account if you place top 16/top 8 (depending on the tournament). What else do you need?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 15:17:07 No.41962468 Report

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>>41962338
>What else do you need?
For you VGKEKS to piss off. /vp/ likes singels and Smogon. Not retarded PROTECT INTIMIDATE spam. Get fucked. No-one plays your brainlet format

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 16:56:00 No.41963516 Report

Quoted By: >>41963557 >>41963608

>>41959168
smogonfags only play showdown? because I think nobody will follow the ''dynamax'' clause at the real wifi battles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 16:58:48 No.41963557 Report

Quoted By: >>41963608 >>41963677

>>41963516
>smogonfags only play showdown? because I think nobody will follow the ''dynamax'' clause at the real wifi battles

If you don't play Smogon rules, you're a shitter and a bad player, even if you aren't. Because perception shapes reality and the perception is refusal to play by those rules implies you aren't good enough to play with them.

This is a common sentiment in other games like Yu-Gi-Oh. There are many formats, but the only format that matters is Advanced. If you don't play Advanced, you're a repulsive oldfag and/or a shitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 17:03:32 No.41963608 Report

Quoted By: >>41963677

>>41963557
Well, I see your point, but >>41963516's concerns are probably about people and especially children, that are not familiar with Smogon rules, dynamaxing on cart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 17:08:11 No.41963661 Report

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>>41961105
>>41961120
Probably just seething VGCucks trying to get Showdown DMCA'd

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 17:09:30 No.41963677 Report

Quoted By: >>41963751 >>41963865

>>41963557
>>41963608
truly a classic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 17:14:56 No.41963751 Report

Quoted By: >>41963865

>>41963677
It's funny how accurate this still is. Smogontards love banning shit in pokemon of all games

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 17:23:02 No.41963865 Report

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>>41963677
>>41963751
>>>/r/eddit
And kill everyone on there and then kys. You subhuman pieces of shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 17:35:50 No.41964077 Report

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>>41959743
What effort? He always posts the same image. Search by image in the archive and you get all his posts. Damn you must be new.

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