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>>41968701
Fanfic meta.

Now that they freed themselves from the shackles of even pretending their shit is related to the game that is played on cart maybe they should start working on their own fakemons and detach themselves from the Pokemon franchise once and for all.

Just imagine a world without Smogon. One can only hope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:20:22 No.41968886 Report

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>>41968877
Cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:20:25 No.41968888 Report

Quoted By: >>41968911 >>41968975

>>41968862
>I WANT MY MEGAS BACK

good job proving the image right lmao

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:20:50 No.41968892 Report

Quoted By: >>41969090

>>41968701
>B-BUT MUH BROKEN MEGAS
>MUH BALANCEEE
>MUH GIGAGAGANTICMAXING
Dynacucks on suicide watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:22:18 No.41968911 Report

Quoted By: >>41968939

>>41968888
the image never said that tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:23:37 No.41968939 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968911
>>41968802

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:24:27 No.41968956 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968877
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:25:34 No.41968972 Report

Quoted By: >>41977039

>>41968862
All that thinking on the mega side is just about teambuilding and anyone can just steal a successful team anyway. The Dynamax thinking in the previous pic was about what to plays to make in an actual battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:26:04 No.41968975 Report

Quoted By: >>41968978

>>41968888
great job proving >>41968862 right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:26:21 No.41968978 Report

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>>41968975
nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:27:06 No.41968985 Report

Quoted By: >>41969005

ITT: People that don’t understand how to properly balance a metagame or don’t care about how healthy a metagame is and would rather spend all their time playing Nat Dex AG instead.

Yes, incredibly fun game. Both players can use Mega-Fug so it’s balanced, right???

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:28:25 No.41969002 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968862
actually retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:28:33 No.41969005 Report

Quoted By: >>41969049 >>41980554

>>41968985
Woah I can use Mega Rayquaza on all my Pokemon at any time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:29:47 No.41969021 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968802
based
>>41968862
also based

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:29:58 No.41969024 Report

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So now that smogon has officially made themselves a fanfic meta when can my bros agumom and goku be playable on showdown?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:31:46 No.41969049 Report

Quoted By: >>41969061

>>41969005
No, just have a team of 6 injected Mega-Fugs with hacked movesets because you can do that within the game’s code. We don’t need a guideline or stupid rules to make things fair or balanced!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:32:23 No.41969061 Report

Quoted By: >>41969160

>>41969049
>No,
So it's not balanced, unlike Dynamax then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:34:31 No.41969090 Report

Quoted By: >>41969368 >>41969800 >>41970761

>>41968892
>Dynamax
Possible users: Every Pokemon
Broken users: 5~

>Megas/Primal
Possible users: 50
Broken users: 10

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:35:36 No.41969109 Report

Quoted By: >>41969175 >>41969189

Good, fuck that mechanic. It should have just been something exclusive to gym leaders so that they could get something like a boss monsters similar to how totems worked

BUT NO
JUST COUNTER THE LEADER'S DYNAMAX POKEMON WITH YOUR OWN DYNAMAX POKEMON
THE KIDS WILL LOVE IT

Shit mechanic in story mode
Shit mechanic in online mode
Also, fuck gigantmax grinding. I sure love not being able to gigantmax the fagmons that I caught in my first playthrough

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:36:02 No.41969120 Report

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>Smogoncucks
lmao just play another game if you hate Pokemon so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:39:03 No.41969160 Report

Quoted By: >>41969167 >>41969185 >>41969205

>>41969061
Refute the points Smogon made with their Dynamax Discussion with a well-thought out analysis after playtesting dynamax after 100+ battles and cross-testing it with many other people instead of making baseless claims without any evidence.
None of you fags give out any reasoning other than “muh core mechanic” and “itz balanced cuz I said so!!11!” And it just devolves into arguments about semantics and none of you fags address the core issue and instead spend all your time theorycrafting with a bunch of hypotheticals

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:39:31 No.41969164 Report

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>>41968701
>singlets
When will they ever learn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:39:53 No.41969167 Report

Quoted By: >>41969183 >>41969211

>>41969160
>Refute the points Smogon made with their Dynamax Discussion
ok
>>41968802

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:40:16 No.41969175 Report

Quoted By: >>41969210

>>41969109
lol what a baby

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:40:44 No.41969183 Report

Quoted By: >>41969203

>>41969167
That's not a refutation, it was made before the games even came out. It's just a big ad hominem argument in image form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:40:55 No.41969185 Report

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>>41969160
>can't make any arguments himself
>has to resort to parroting others

lmao pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:41:05 No.41969189 Report

Quoted By: >>41969210

>>41969109
>battlespot breediecuck
Now this is golden

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:42:03 No.41969200 Report

Quoted By: >>41969793

I really don't get why people get so worked up about a website/format they don't interact with banning something. It makes no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:42:12 No.41969203 Report

Quoted By: >>41969232

>>41969183
>That's not a refutation,
I don't need a refutation when you can't even provide an argument.

>it was made before the games even came out
Woah they knew about Cinderace before the games came out? Holy shit!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:42:20 No.41969205 Report

Quoted By: >>41971288 >>41980697

>>41969160
it wasn't a 100% "BAN" like some of the suspect test in early x/y, some people do think dynamax isn't a broken mechanic and got reqs to vote.
its just a shame that the other 85% of people do think it is broken.

whatever, i'm going to terrorize the ladder now with a stall team

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:42:35 No.41969210 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969175
>>41969189
>implying
Deleted my pirated copy after finishing the game. The entire dynamax/gigantmax mechanic is a fucking sin and I'm glad that it will be gone in the next game, even if something worse ends up replacing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:42:38 No.41969211 Report

Quoted By: >>41969223 >>41969287 >>41969305

>>41969167
That’s a strawman you fuckwit, I asked for proper analysis with evidence. A proper argumentation that doesn’t use logical fallacies and instead provides clear evidence from samples taken for battles explaining how dynamax is balanced. Smogon gave out a lengthy discussion that gives proper details explaining why dynamaxing is bad, and again none of you fucks do that same and instead continue with your non-arguments.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:43:15 No.41969223 Report

Quoted By: >>41969305 >>41969307

>>41969211
>I asked for proper analysis with evidence
Why bother when you have no argument?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:44:06 No.41969232 Report

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>>41969203
Dilate yawntranny

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:44:38 No.41969245 Report

Quoted By: >>41969269 >>41969290 >>41969314 >>41976380 >>41976861

I just love how every single complaint about the "meta" isn't a problem in the official VGC format but /vp/ is just two fucking stupid to manage 4 pokémon on the field at the same time because all they can do at best is think one single step ahead and just switch into a pokémon with the type advantage until their sneaky pebbles remover dies and then get steamrolled.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:45:48 No.41969269 Report

Quoted By: >>41970623

>>41969245
OMGON BANS SWAGGE

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:46:43 No.41969287 Report

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>>41969211
you're asking us to put effort and time into writing something that will just be shrugged off and will not change anything since the voting is over

best case scenario is some guy with too much time on his hands writes an essay on how dynamax is balanced and healthy for the meta and everyone will just go "yeah, well that just your opinion man"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:46:46 No.41969290 Report

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>>41969245
/vp/ is unironically bad at every form of pokemon anon, singles and vgc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:47:42 No.41969305 Report

Quoted By: >>41969338 >>41969341

>>41969223
re-read
>>41969211

And if you don’t want to, here’s your argument:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/dynamax-is-banned-from-ou-explanation-information.3657917/

Now refute it with proper argumentation and without logical fallacies

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:47:46 No.41969307 Report

Quoted By: >>41969338 >>41969341 >>41969385

>>41969223
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/dynamax-is-banned-from-ou-explanation-information.3657917/
here's your argument anon
can you give us now an explanation to why they shouldn't had banned it as long as this one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:48:14 No.41969314 Report

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>>41969245
ngl i saw the vgc top used pokemon and it looked kino, fucking DHELMISE of all things is in the top 20 pokemon used

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:48:50 No.41969327 Report

Quoted By: >>41981451

>>41968701
>the most popular alternative metagame bans GF's gen 8 gimmick
>people are exploiting GF's precious doubles format to get g-max raids
>injecting is still going on

will GF finally lose it and patch the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:49:00 No.41969330 Report

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The ban makes sense, from what I've seen 6v6 OU essentially requires a ditto. I don't think the format can handle moves as strong as draco meteor that buff stats instead of lowering them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:49:22 No.41969338 Report

Quoted By: >>41969430

>>41969305
>>41969307
>and the element of unpredictability
>the biggest reason for banning Dynamax is perhaps the unpredictability that comes alongside it
So literally just >>41968802

I don't need an argument. Smogon clearly doesn't have one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:49:39 No.41969341 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969305
>>41969307
Why do you even bother? You know he's not going to argue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:51:10 No.41969368 Report

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>>41969090
>he thinks there are 5 broken users
If those 5 are banned then the next 5 are broken

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:51:58 No.41969385 Report

Quoted By: >>41970273

>>41969307
here's my argument

...................................you gay.................................

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:52:34 No.41969397 Report

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>>41968877
Smogon has made fakemons for 10+ years now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:54:37 No.41969430 Report

Quoted By: >>41969469

>>41969338
Misinterpreting, cherry-picking, and deflecting the argument with an unnecessary ad-hominem against Smogon. What you gave isn’t an argument and does not fly in any debates.

You can’t make an argument of why dynamaxing is balanced because you don’t have one or don’t want to bother to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:55:37 No.41969447 Report

Quoted By: >>41969868

>>41968701
>https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/np-ss-uu-stage-0-all-i-want-for-christmas-is-uu-uu-alpha-is-live.3657297/page-4#post-8316954
>Obstagoon is a major winner to Dynamax ban

Is Piers /Our Guy/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2019 23:56:52 No.41969469 Report

Quoted By: >>41981479

>>41969430
>literal quotes from your link that says the biggest reason is upredictability
>cherrypicking

>You can’t make an argument of why dynamaxing is balanced
Why would I need one when Smogon has no argument for how it's unbalanced? Unpredictability != unbalanced you fucking retard.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:06:20 No.41969621 Report

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>>41969555
based

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:07:43 No.41969642 Report

Quoted By: >>41969651

who even cares about smogon. you dont win anything for winning in smogon. you shit in pokemon vgc so their rules only matter.

i dont go play american sports ball in chinese rule set since i am not going try to win anything in china sport ball since it is the lower league. i rather play the ruleset with the real competitive uses

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:08:35 No.41969651 Report

Quoted By: >>41969754 >>41975092

>>41969642
You don't win anything for winning in VGC either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:09:25 No.41969667 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969523
>>41969555
>>41969622
[Laughs]

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:10:10 No.41969682 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969622
unironically an higher quality post than the rest of this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:11:11 No.41969699 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968701
Honestly this decision is going to slowly bleed out Smogon unless they reattach themselves to the next game if it satisfies all of their complaints.
There’s a reason why nobody gives a fuck about Smogon YouTube videos but regularly watch VGC and actual ranked videos. Smogon is for autists who aren’t an active demographic for the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:13:13 No.41969738 Report

Quoted By: >>41969777

>gamefreak gives a single fuck about any of this or even the pvp scene in general
LOL

their gimmick sold like hot cakes, just as expected

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:14:39 No.41969754 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969651
you get a shitty pikachu toy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:15:51 No.41969777 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969738
It’s the best meta since X/Y

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:17:12 No.41969793 Report

Quoted By: >>41970256 >>41981478

>>41969200
Because they masquerade as if they have an official say in the games meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:17:45 No.41969800 Report

Quoted By: >>41970546

>>41969090
Apparently "every flying type" is "5~"

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:23:36 No.41969868 Report

Quoted By: >>41970006

>>41969447
he was /Our Guy/ already

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:32:20 No.41970006 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969868
based

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:33:02 No.41970021 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968802
cringe sub 1100 ELO wojakposter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:51:22 No.41970256 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969793
..But they don't? Show me proof of this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 00:52:58 No.41970273 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969385
>>>/v/ine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 01:13:24 No.41970546 Report

Quoted By: >>41970761 >>41971205 >>41971284

>>41969800
Speed alone doesn't make a dynamax broken.
Broken dynamax are combinations of:
Flying moves or double speed ability
+
Water STAB or Fighting moves
+
Bulk + Nasty plot/Sword Dance or OP ability (i.e. Moxie)

Now look a the common dynamax problem guys:
Gyarados (Flying moves, Water STAB, OP ability)
Hawlucha (double speed ability, Fighting moves)
Excadrill (double speed ability, Fighting moves)
Togekiss (Flying moves, Bulk + Nasty plot)
Barraskeda (double speed ability, Water STAB, Fighting moves)

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 01:19:37 No.41970623 Report

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>>41969269

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 01:30:38 No.41970761 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969090
>Broken users: 5~
>>41970546
No, the broken thing about Dynamax is the combination of;
>Being able to use it any time in battle
>Being able to decide what your user is going to be at any time
>Double HP
>Almost every Max move becoming Base 130-140
>Having 3 Max moves available
>Deciding between 4 different coverage moves during those 3 turns
>The ability to hold any item
>The ability to escape choice/encore locks for free
>The ability to completely bypass Protect
>Is immune to Flinching
>Is immune to weight based moves because go fuck yourself
>Is immune to phasing as well
>Lasts long enough to hit you at least once if you are “unlucky” (as in, you need to Max Guard 3 times in a row) or your opponent only has 1 attacking move you are is immune to

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 01:31:30 No.41970776 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968752
Cope, faggot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 01:34:10 No.41970822 Report

Quoted By: >>41971190

>>41968802

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:00:32 No.41971190 Report

Quoted By:

>>41970822

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:01:34 No.41971205 Report

Quoted By:

>>41970546
And yet none of them are statistically over represented by win rate or pick rate rlly makes u think

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:03:27 No.41971227 Report

Quoted By: >>41971245

Why does Smogon live rent free in /vp/‘s head?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:04:52 No.41971245 Report

Quoted By:

>>41971227
It's normal for preteens and early teenagers to rebel against authority structures without understanding why they exist in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:05:04 No.41971250 Report

Quoted By: >>41971264

I honestly stopped playing smogon, they ban everything that feels too hard for them to deal with, also their way to vote for bans is literally a circlejerk, nobody else is voting there

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:06:09 No.41971264 Report

Quoted By: >>41976559 >>41976586

>>41971250
literally anybody can vote if they get the reqs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:07:21 No.41971284 Report

Quoted By:

>>41970546
and yet they did not limited swords or nasty to +2
smogon is bunch of shitheads

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:07:27 No.41971285 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968877
You’ve been saying this since 2010.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:07:35 No.41971288 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969205
>the other 85% of people do think it is broken.
Those are probably fake accounts set up by the mods for MUH FANFIC META

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:09:45 No.41971322 Report

Quoted By: >>41971362 >>41980665

So you telling me it's ok to ban baton pass, make sleep clause, ban dynamax, but they can't limit boosting moves to +2 and remove all boosts in dynamax mode huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:10:55 No.41971338 Report

Quoted By: >>41971571 >>41971611

>>41968701
The people bitching about this are probably the same people who play Smash Bros with all items on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:12:59 No.41971362 Report

Quoted By:

>>41971322
If you can’t change it on cart without hacking, then they aren’t going to change the mechanic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:27:34 No.41971571 Report

Quoted By:

>>41971338
Not really everyone understands items are too random. Dynamax isn’t random it’s the result of decision making that Smogon doesn’t want to acknowledge as skillful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:30:29 No.41971611 Report

Quoted By: >>41971860

>>41971338
and you're the one faggot that no one invites to hang out because every stage MUST be Omega or Final Destination

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 02:47:15 No.41971860 Report

Quoted By:

>>41971611
not him but this meme is so outdated, final destination is a shit stage see me on ps2 or t&c

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 04:04:36 No.41972858 Report

Quoted By:

You all just here to complain and argue?
I'm sure most of you haven't touched showdown in years, you just want to be mad at something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 04:35:47 No.41973198 Report

Quoted By: >>41974611

If Dynamax is banned, why are people still using it on Showdown?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 04:55:13 No.41973395 Report

Quoted By: >>41976743

Gigantamax should be allowed instead, as Dynamax could be comparable to any Pokemon being able to Mega, just not changing form.

1. A Gigantamax Pokemon would be completely predictable just from team preview, as well as the team accompanying it.
2. A large majority of them are inferior to their Dynamax counterparts, and none of them are top tier competitive threats either.
3. Only Charizard (Blaze locked btw), Butterfree, Gengar, Lapras, Drednaw, Coalossal, Toxtricity, Hatterene, and Grimmsnarl can set up weather/terrain or boost their own offensive stats with a STAB Max move, out of 400 Pokemon.

https://pastebin.com/SUSdSRri (embed)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 07:00:11 No.41974591 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968701
Fanfic meta
Just play vgc the real official meta instead, everyone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 07:02:46 No.41974611 Report

Quoted By: >>41974939

>>41973198
Showdown hasn't been updated yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 07:41:38 No.41974939 Report

Quoted By:

>>41974611
Is there an ETA on when it will be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 07:57:58 No.41975056 Report

Quoted By: >>41975070

imagine playing competitive

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 07:59:50 No.41975070 Report

Quoted By: >>41975073

>>41975056
imagine playing a fanfic meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 08:00:27 No.41975073 Report

Quoted By:

>>41975070
imagine playing competitive in any fashion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 08:03:06 No.41975092 Report

Quoted By: >>41976074 >>41976102

>>41969651
You get real money for winning bigger tournaments in VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 08:04:42 No.41975107 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968701
Would mater if... smogon was working at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 08:07:59 No.41975141 Report

Quoted By: >>41976121 >>41980802 >>41982855

I like dynamax, it's the most balanced gimmick they've ever made
it combines megas and Z moves into something not retarded

the only thing I really dislike about it is the growth is kinda stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 09:20:09 No.41975581 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968862
>right: just playing video games
>left: autism at its worst

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 10:43:08 No.41976074 Report

Quoted By:

>>41975092
and public exposure regarding being a TOTAL BIG TIME SOCIAL LOSER for seriously playing Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 10:45:42 No.41976102 Report

Quoted By:

>>41975092
Yes, but the vast majority will never see that money anyway. I doubt anyone here has made money in official events. Since this the case, why not let people play the game how they want?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 10:49:01 No.41976121 Report

Quoted By: >>41976582

>>41975141
>the most balanced gimmick they've ever made
Still doesn't make it balanced though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 11:36:59 No.41976380 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969245
Wow it's almost as if doubles and singles are fundamentally different.
You know that Doubles OU didn't ban all the megas that Singles OU did, right? And that there's a lot of Pokemon in general banned from Singles OU that are allowed in Doubles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 12:12:08 No.41976559 Report

Quoted By:

>>41971264
>literally anybody can vote
Oh that's cool, good to kn-
>if they get the reqs
Oh so literally not literally, got it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 12:14:31 No.41976573 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968802
Kek. Based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 12:16:03 No.41976582 Report

Quoted By: >>41976588

>>41976121
I thought it was balanced in doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 12:16:33 No.41976586 Report

Quoted By: >>41976646

>>41971264
They complicate things too much with you having to register a new alt and get the reqs on it in the rather short timeframe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 12:16:46 No.41976588 Report

Quoted By:

>>41976582
it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 12:29:48 No.41976646 Report

Quoted By: >>41976681

>>41976586
The rep requirements are asinine, it doesn’t matter if you’re good at the game you gotta have 100 hours to autistically grind with a meta team and hope your account doesn’t get bricked by RNG

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 12:38:58 No.41976681 Report

Quoted By:

>>41976646
Dude, it's easy.
RNG happens both ways, I literally got reqs with Scarf Togekiss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 12:46:29 No.41976719 Report

Quoted By: >>41976724

>>41968752
How many people voted in this matter, like 300? Sounds like nobody cares about smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 12:47:49 No.41976724 Report

Quoted By: >>41976832

>>41976719
300 people making the reqs is honestly a lot of people

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 12:51:42 No.41976743 Report

Quoted By: >>41976775

>>41973395
That sounds really arbitrary, since you’re essentially allowing some Pokémon to Dmax and not others

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 12:57:04 No.41976775 Report

Quoted By: >>41976867 >>41976888

>>41976743
Sort of like how only some Pokemon were allowed to mega evolve but not others?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 13:00:41 No.41976789 Report

Quoted By: >>41976809

Smogon always bans any offensive strategies while letting stall strategies be as out of control as possible. See them banning Swift Swim from Gen 5 but allowing Restalk in Gen 2 the reason that Gen 2 is the worst competitive gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 13:03:54 No.41976809 Report

Quoted By: >>41981548

>>41976789
Oh yeah banning offensive stategies like Arena Trap Dugtrio, a staple Pokémon in stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 13:07:53 No.41976832 Report

Quoted By: >>41979916

>>41976724
In relation to a game/franchise played by millions? I'm sure it's one of the bigger communities but that's still niche

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 13:13:28 No.41976861 Report

Quoted By: >>41976940

>>41969245
Nobody likes doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 13:14:56 No.41976867 Report

Quoted By:

>>41976775
Not at all. What’s your point

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 13:16:58 No.41976888 Report

Quoted By:

>>41976775
Blame Game Freak for this one, not Smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 13:24:48 No.41976940 Report

Quoted By: >>41981414

>>41976861
plety of people travels around the world all year to attend tournaments but sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 13:43:37 No.41977039 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968972
Wonder if this is part of why Smogon cries so much about it, adds more of an element of piloting to teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 13:50:23 No.41977084 Report

Quoted By: >>41977142

>all the cope with "fanfic meta" phrase of the week
Isn't it even more damning when a "fan fiction" is more popular and acclaimed than the actual offcial release

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 14:02:53 No.41977142 Report

Quoted By: >>41980158

>>41977084
i don't remember Smogon tourneys being attented by hundreds of people flying in from all around the globe, being followed by thousands on multiple livestreams and handing out actual money prizes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 15:52:49 No.41977969 Report

Quoted By: >>41977998

>All theese people pretending noone cares about Smogon
Why does it matter if noone cares, then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 15:55:49 No.41977998 Report

Quoted By:

>>41977969
Because we're all bored of life and fill the endless void with bitching about meaningless shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 15:59:54 No.41978033 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968787
They never cared about it. They don't care about MMO Pokemon games too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 19:10:33 No.41979751 Report

Quoted By: >>41979904

ITT:
>I didn’t play Gen V OU where they banned the weather abusers, instead of weather itself.
>I also didn’t know that a new abuser would take their place every time leading to unnecessary bans, instead of just banning the weather abilities.
You niggers want history to repeat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 19:23:41 No.41979904 Report

Quoted By: >>41979968

>>41979751
Didn't this history already repeat? Isn't this how arena trap and baton pass got banned? By banning the broken users first but it didn't work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 19:24:26 No.41979916 Report

Quoted By: >>41981300

>>41976832
Is that the same excuse you made when VGC banned certain Gigantimax Pokemon from their format?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 19:30:13 No.41979968 Report

Quoted By: >>41981556

>>41979904
>By banning the broken users first but it didn't work?
That didn't happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 19:48:44 No.41980158 Report

Quoted By: >>41980282

>>41977142
Because Nintendo would jump on Smogon immediately if they tried to have money involved in Showdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 19:58:31 No.41980282 Report

Quoted By: >>41980289

>>41980158
no it's because no one would bother to show up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 19:58:57 No.41980289 Report

Quoted By: >>41980726

>>41980282
You keep telling yourself that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:00:24 No.41980311 Report

Quoted By:

>this much arguing over fanfiction rules
At least smogonfags get something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:20:30 No.41980554 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969005
No, but you can have Mega Rayquaza, Primal Groudon, Primal Kyogre, Ultra Necrozma, Complete Zygarde, and Ash-Greninja (not as OP, but still basically a Mega) all on the same team at once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:25:47 No.41980610 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968802

>use max flare to set up sun and boost cinderace in the back

No one is going to use dynamax like that retard. They’re going to use it on a sweeper like gyarados and proceed to rape your entire team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:27:26 No.41980624 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968701
I bet Piers did this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:30:26 No.41980665 Report

Quoted By: >>41980853

>>41971322
It’s the Stadium devs (HAL?) that first created Sleep Clause.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:33:05 No.41980697 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969205
Go for it fag. There are good enough wallbreakers in the meta to stop you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:33:33 No.41980703 Report

Quoted By: >>41980738

>>41968701
And now Showdown is coming up on three full days of not working. Did they curse themselves by accident?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:35:21 No.41980726 Report

Quoted By:

>>41980289
lmao dude you are the one making up excuses to cope, VGC tournaments have contestants showing up from all around the world irl, many eople following on the streams and actual prize money, while SMogon ones (do they even have actual WC style tournaments?) don't, and that's a fact. Anything else it's you trying to cope with this fact

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:36:39 No.41980738 Report

Quoted By:

>>41980703
It was working for a little bit last night. But for some reason on watch battle, it was saying everyones ELO is 1000 even though the ladders didnt reset cuz u could see the correct ELOs on the ladder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:37:46 No.41980752 Report

Quoted By:

Who gives a fuck? I battle in-game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:41:53 No.41980802 Report

Quoted By:

>>41975141
>Inflation/macro fetish fuel
>not retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:45:43 No.41980853 Report

Quoted By:

>>41980665
That is because it was way more broken back then than it is now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 20:51:01 No.41980912 Report

Quoted By:

>>41968862
>imma just slap a mega stone on everything and have unlimited potential!
That's assinine. If I saw a Kangaskhan in gen 6, I knew to expect his mega. You do not need anyone specifically to Dmax with. Gmaxing is more telling like megas but come at the cost of unique moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:14:27 No.41981174 Report

Quoted By: >>41981211 >>41981506

>a base stat buff of 100 plus a different, typically more broken, ability for the whole match
Vs
>a current health double and slightly stronger moves that 25% pierce protect for 3 turns and have added effects depending on the move

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:17:27 No.41981211 Report

Quoted By:

>>41981174
>can't hold an item
vs
>can hold an item

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:17:40 No.41981217 Report

Quoted By: >>41981367 >>41981368

>>41968701
Wtf ppl are still dynamaxing online. This bullshit smogon banned it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:24:34 No.41981300 Report

Quoted By: >>41981618 >>41981754

>>41979916
>VGC banned certain Gigantimax Pokemon from their format?
Did they really? Which ones?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:31:05 No.41981367 Report

Quoted By:

>>41981217
showdown hasn't been updated yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:31:22 No.41981368 Report

Quoted By:

>>41981217
How the fuck are you even getting online?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:35:23 No.41981414 Report

Quoted By: >>41981643

>>41976940
That's because the official VGC format is doubles, and they get actual prizes/money from that, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:35:30 No.41981417 Report

Quoted By: >>41981528

>>41968877
>Fanfic meta.
Imagine having a fanfic being better than the actual thing lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:37:56 No.41981451 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969327
>people are exploiting GF's precious doubles format to get g-max raids
Wait, what!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:40:40 No.41981478 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969793
They don't, they made a special post to explain why they were suspecting dynamax and explicitly said Smogon metagames aren't official in it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:40:54 No.41981479 Report

Quoted By:

>>41969469
rent-free

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:43:29 No.41981506 Report

Quoted By:

>>41981174
>stat buff of 100 and possible ability and type change, but at the cost of an item
Vs
>3 turns of double HP, stronger moves that can set weather, terrains or boost stats, immunity to weight based moves, immunity to move locking from Choice items/Disable/Encore, immunity to Destiny Bond, immunity to Whirlwind/Roar/Red Cad, immunity to weight based moves and can still hold an item

All the immunities you get during Dynamax is what pisses me off the most. You can’t try to play around it like you would anything else, your only real options are to counter-Dynamax or hit as hard as you can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:45:11 No.41981528 Report

Quoted By:

>>41981417
The absolute state of VGcucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:47:03 No.41981548 Report

Quoted By: >>41981683

>>41976809
Dug can also be used to trap stallmons though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:47:38 No.41981556 Report

Quoted By: >>41981778

>>41979968
Didn't they ban dugtrio first but people kept using arena trap anyways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:53:31 No.41981618 Report

Quoted By:

>>41981300
Only Corviknight, Butterfree, Dredmaw, Snorlax, Charizard(blaze), Sandaconda and Centiskorch are currently allowed in vgc, they will however rotate them out and it should fall in line with the Gigantamax raid event mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:55:24 No.41981643 Report

Quoted By:

>>41981414
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 21:58:11 No.41981683 Report

Quoted By:

>>41981548
With 100 atk and low HP it only work on a few, you are better using Magnezone, if he was still around of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 22:04:15 No.41981754 Report

Quoted By:

>>41981300
I think it's only ones that aren't available in-game yet, which makes sense because only hackers and injectors can get them right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 22:05:33 No.41981778 Report

Quoted By:

>>41981556
Dugtrio never got banned.
What happened was Dugtrio was getting suspected and it was not allowed in the suspect ladder, so people started using Diglett instead, because many people agreed that Dugtrio was not the issue and Arena Trap was.
That's where that infamous screen cap of a Diglett beating a Mega Metagross 1v1 comes from.
So that suspect ended up not getting Dugtrio banned, it instead led to a later suspect where Arena Trap as a whole ended up being banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 22:11:06 No.41981846 Report

Quoted By:

Lmao, you retards will fight over anything. Learn when the other side is arguing in bad faith and ignore them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2019 23:33:32 No.41982855 Report

Quoted By:

>>41975141
>Zero opportunity cost
>Any pokemon can use it at any time
>this is more balanced than the mechanics with major opportunity cost that only one pokemon on a team can use

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