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Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:04:59 No.42011972 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42012001 >>42012004 >>42012032 >>42012090 >>42012113 >>42012126 >>42012853 >>42013982 >>42015232 >>42015617 >>42015902 >>42017421 >>42019741

Pokemon like Polteageists and Alcremies shouldn't have useless alt forms. Alt forms should be more like the Toxtricity duo. Different movepools, abilities, or stats, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:07:12 No.42012001 Report

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>>42011972
Agreed. But complaining now won’t change anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:07:38 No.42012004 Report

Quoted By: >>42012036 >>42012117

>>42011972
>Pokemon like Polteageists and Alcremies shouldn't have useless alt forms
Why?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:09:07 No.42012021 Report

Quoted By: >>42012280

Agreed, though Alchremie being unique in some way for each would be too much. Alchremie forms in general are too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:10:06 No.42012032 Report

Quoted By: >>42012055

>>42011972
Would hate for a good form design-wise to be total dogshit because of the stat/movepool combo. Keeping it cosmetic will atleast have it to where you can use the form you like and not have to worry about if that form is competitively viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:10:17 No.42012036 Report

Quoted By: >>42012062 >>42015936

>>42012004
Because they serve no purpose other than to bloat your PC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:12:03 No.42012055 Report

Quoted By: >>42012338

>>42012032
Major changes yes. The tea pot having a sticker or Alcremie having different colors and berries, no. One is invisible, the other is pure light reskinning

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:12:31 No.42012062 Report

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>>42012036
Only if you're being autistic and catching every form. Just get the ones you like

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Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:15:21 No.42012090 Report

Quoted By: >>42012128 >>42012824 >>42012942

>>42011972
NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE ABOUT BATTLES, holy fuck. Things are allowed to be purely aesthetic; it adds flavor without one clearly being better than the other, like what happened with Toxtricity. Stop asking for shit to get removes just because you're so unbelievably autistic that you can't fathom the idea of a thing NOT having an effect on competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:16:55 No.42012113 Report

Quoted By: >>42012284 >>42012656

>>42011972
So what's the point to getting an authentic one? Any difference at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:17:30 No.42012117 Report

Quoted By: >>42012403 >>42012656

>>42012004
The reason I don't pursue shiny pokemon is because they're virtually identical in battle as their nonshiny versions. They may look different, but everything else is the same.

I feel the same way about useless alt forms like Polteageists. I don't feel the need to find an authentic one when the phony one has the same stats and everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:19:11 No.42012126 Report

Quoted By: >>42012656

>>42011972
Polteageist's is dumb, because it's not noticeable or even visible 99% of the time. Alcremie is fine, though I would be happy if they just trimmed it down and had type changes, with mostly if not all the same moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:19:21 No.42012128 Report

Quoted By: >>42012309 >>42012319

>>42012090
When every starter (which like It or not, are fan favorites) gets cut except for charmander but you have 70 different colored meringuas you wonder the aestethic may not be worth It

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:33:48 No.42012280 Report

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>>42012021
it could work if each type was linked to a type, and his signature move changed depending on the move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:34:30 No.42012284 Report

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>>42012113
flexing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:37:11 No.42012309 Report

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>>42012128
There is a 0% chance that "Alcremie colors being cut" would magically allow all the other starters to be in the game. Changing her colors doesn't take much dev time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:38:00 No.42012319 Report

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>>42012128
The starters weren't cut because they were replaced with merengue; they were cut because Game Freak felt like cutting them. Probably adding them later or just for the sake of "muh surprises".

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Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:41:00 No.42012338 Report

Quoted By: >>42012656

>>42012055
>sticker
Please fucking tell me you don't believe authenticity marks are stickers. At least do some fucking research before you decide to let your pasty, fat fingers roll on your cheeto-dusted keyboard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 02:47:40 No.42012403 Report

Quoted By: >>42012656

>>42012117
I found an Authentic one by pure coincidence and while it made me feel good, I can see people with autism forcing themselves to waste hours upon hours trying to get two measly 1%s (need a second if you want to Living Dex it since even Authentics breed Forgeries) then spending days upon days waiting for the Stow-on-Side fucker to get a Chipped Pot in stock.

You'd think GameFreak would have taken completion autists into consideration, but hey, they probably did, it's probably another part of the illusion of postgame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 03:17:02 No.42012656 Report

Quoted By: >>42012724 >>42015651

>>42012113
>>42012117
>>42012126
>>42012338
>>42012403
You guys think maybe the fake/authentic Polteageist gimmick is GameFreak’s way of commenting on the concept of completionism/injecting/living dexes? It seems like the degree of variations in forms and the lengths you’d have to go through for them which are included in Gen 8 alone are becoming ridiculous (not to mention cut things from past gens like Spinda’s spot patterns), to the point that creating an entire Pokémon evolution line with such a weird low-percentage based gimmick feels like an intentional way of exploring the concepts of perceived value/rarity and drawing them to the player’s attention.

Some might call it lazy, but frankly I think it’s a stroke of genius if that’s the intention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 03:22:22 No.42012724 Report

Quoted By: >>42015651

>>42012656
I think that the only thought that went through their heads is "this will make players farm for months and keep the games relevant for longer" and that paying someone 5 yen to doodle on the model is worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 03:30:51 No.42012824 Report

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>>42012090
i wish gender difference revamps came back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 03:33:37 No.42012853 Report

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>>42011972
Your favorite Pokémon was cut so they could one gorillion alcremie flavors and a super special polteageist form that you can only see while dynamaxed

Please understand, bug in anus, making games is hard, mistah merriku, haha I don’t know, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 03:41:18 No.42012942 Report

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>>42012090
Ironically, your statement falls flat because the only way you can even see Polteageist's alternate form outside of the Pokedex is through battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 05:19:19 No.42013982 Report

Quoted By: >>42015126 >>42017711

>>42011972
Which Pokemon did it start with anyway? Spinda?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 07:30:13 No.42015126 Report

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>>42013982
SHINY in gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 07:38:20 No.42015176 Report

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Alcremie's is fine. They can at least rework it in a way that doesn't eat 63 models worth of space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 07:40:44 No.42015192 Report

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>42015126
>Shiny in Gen 3
I wouldn't even make a comment if there wasn't a mandatory event where you have to battle a shiny Gyarados in Gen 2, the gen where shinies where actually introduced, what with it being on the Gameboy Color and all, and it's the most iconic Shiny in the entire series for that reason alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 07:46:03 No.42015232 Report

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>>42011972
Polteageist is the only one I'd legit call useless. You can't even see the difference under most circumstances. Even Gourgeist made more sense with the sizes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 08:51:28 No.42015580 Report

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Alcremies are suppose to be about personal aesthetic preference. They're only "pointless" if you're a retarded Living Dex person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 08:58:31 No.42015617 Report

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>>42011972
fuck that, give us more variants. people collect different tea sets like mad, give us 100 different poltegeists of different rarity, value, and cup condition. give us more colour and pattern variants representing the range of common pigment mutations found in natur, shinies were a great start. give us domestic breeds of farm animal mons, wensleydale mareep and longhorn miltalk. give us pokemon with diprosopus!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 09:04:51 No.42015651 Report

Quoted By: >>42015684 >>42017379

>>42012656
>>42012724
They're literally just a reference to how IRL Brits used to autistically search for the "authentic" versions of tea sets when the knock-offs did the exact same job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 09:11:08 No.42015684 Report

Quoted By: >>42015707

>>42015651
>They're literally just a reference to how IRL Brits used to autistically search for the "authentic" versions of tea sets when the knock-offs did the exact same job.
i bet they wouldnt have known this if james turner didn't tell them. in the same way, it is true that the real thing is better, but knockoffs do the exact same thing and are much cheaper, just like how some people buy lots for watches or cars or food or toys. just buy the less expensive one it does the exact same thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 09:15:23 No.42015707 Report

Quoted By: >>42015903

>>42015684
Japan is pretty aware of world history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 09:54:33 No.42015902 Report

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>>42011972
If they have different movepools, abilities and stats, are they not a different Pokemon? Why just use the same name? That's why I think rockruff Evo line makes no sense, alolan natives must be stupid to think they are the same Pokemon and not 3 split evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 09:54:49 No.42015903 Report

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>>42015707
people acting like japan aren't the biggest anglophiles in the world and also bafflingly like they have no cultural concept of fine china tea sets and the value of an authentic and quality set over a knockoff one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 09:59:20 No.42015936 Report

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>>42012036
They do not bloat my PC, maybe it's your problem? I don't think GF should change their design philosophy to cater to your autism. You just need to dilate a bit, fag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 14:44:25 No.42017379 Report

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>>42015651
I know, but saying that out loud just sounds like saying, “Just inject lol” for a different hobby besides Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 14:49:52 No.42017421 Report

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>>42011972
It’s one of the only bits of real attention to detail Sword and Shield has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 15:26:09 No.42017711 Report

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>>42013982
Unown

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Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 18:51:25 No.42019690 Report

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Bump

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Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2019 18:56:31 No.42019741 Report

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>>42011972
they just exist to give you something to do casuals aren't gonna care about grinding for it

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