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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 13:52:38 No.42062003 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42062015 >>42062072 >>42062209 >>42062472 >>42062755 >>42064128 >>42064239 >>42064360 >>42064430

>Not a single stat is even lower
Did Gamefreak realized Ledian was a mistake?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 13:54:12 No.42062015 Report

Quoted By: >>42062309 >>42064239 >>42066612

>>42062003
I'd say Ledian deserves an evolution but nowadays they'd just make it a regional exclusive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 13:54:19 No.42062017 Report

Quoted By: >>42062204

what can he even do? I dont think I would want to use him in my competetive pokemon gaming team

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 13:54:27 No.42062018 Report

Quoted By: >>42062035 >>42062126 >>42062139 >>42065968

>stage 3 evo vs stage 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 13:55:53 No.42062035 Report

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>>42062018
thats not an excuse and you know it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 13:59:35 No.42062072 Report

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>>42062003
swap it's speed and special defense and double its special attack

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:06:51 No.42062126 Report

Quoted By: >>42062185

>>42062018
>dottler with evolite still has better defenses and ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:08:24 No.42062139 Report

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>>42062018
>Last stage evo vs last stage evo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:08:33 No.42062141 Report

Quoted By: >>42062551

Why'd they have to make ladybug Necrozma the strong one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:14:26 No.42062185 Report

Quoted By: >>42063092

>>42062126
dottler has literally nothing to use compound eyes with unfortunely.

It's like doublade having no guard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:16:02 No.42062204 Report

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>>42062017
Ledian? Dual Screens and Encore + U-Turn for momentum, I guess. That's what random battles on Showdown hand me for movesets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:16:19 No.42062209 Report

Quoted By: >>42062244 >>42062529 >>42062830 >>42065692 >>42065727 >>42065866

>>42062003
>bottom
>an ambiguous ladybug-esque monster with a creative UFO-inspired design, menacing face, and rigid spiky body with defined anatomy
>top
>LMAOOOOO BIG CHIBI BOBBLEHEAD, SIMPLISTIC ROUND SHAPES FOR EASY MERCHANDISING, AND CARTOON BOXING GLOVES FOR HANDS XDDD

God, new Pokemon designs really are going to shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:20:33 No.42062244 Report

Quoted By: >>42062524

>>42062209
Ledian is still better because it's a friendly-looking bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:27:45 No.42062309 Report

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>>42062015
This doesn’t matter, just give Ledian ANYTHING, it’s one of the lowest BST mons and it has literally nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:43:20 No.42062472 Report

Quoted By: >>42062624

>>42062003
>powercreep isn't real!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:47:02 No.42062524 Report

Quoted By: >>42062722

>>42062244
>Ledian is still better because it's a friendly-looking bug.
Are you a little girl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:47:26 No.42062529 Report

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>>42062209
Ledian ACTUALY has a bit of interesting head and eyes, trying to emulate a super Sentai.

I like the new ladybug, but it's not ambiguous either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:49:06 No.42062551 Report

Quoted By: >>42064462

>>42062141
Because it evolves at level 30.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 14:54:55 No.42062624 Report

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>>42062472
To be fair, Ledian is very much designed to be an early evolver who helps the player through the beginning of the game, not a permanent party member. Since then, Gamefreak has been trying to make early-route bugs more viable to bring to the end of the game, but there are still plenty of early-evolving shitmons who fall behind really fast, such as Thievul.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:02:31 No.42062716 Report

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If they want Ledian to have Iron Fist and a bunch of punching moves, then why don't they just swap Special Defense and Attack while giving it a bit of a speed buff? It won't be amazing by any means but it'd at least be useable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:03:17 No.42062722 Report

Quoted By: >>42063020

>>42062524
Cute and clean design > alien abomination

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:06:07 No.42062755 Report

Quoted By: >>42063020

>>42062003
Ledian actually looks good, unlike this abomination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:12:25 No.42062830 Report

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>>42062209
>ufo
that's the gigantamax, basic orbeetle is a brain + brain stem

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:30:09 No.42063020 Report

Quoted By: >>42063074

>>42062755
>>42062722
>mad johtofags angry at a superior mon that replaced their shitty untiered plushbait
Nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:33:50 No.42063074 Report

Quoted By: >>42063141 >>42063161 >>42064467

>>42063020
>my ladybug is better cuz it's a cool alien!!!
Autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:35:25 No.42063092 Report

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>>42062185
between that and its g max move it really makes me think they planned to give it Focus Blast or Thunder or something like that but scrapped it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:39:26 No.42063141 Report

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>>42063074
>my ladybug is better because it has gloves and shoes!

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:41:14 No.42063161 Report

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>>42063074
It’s a badnik

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:41:26 No.42063163 Report

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>>42063092
they should've given the gravity effect to flapple's gmax and orbeetle something else
drednaw's special max moves sets rocks, maybe orbeetle's could set webs? Or do a copperajah and have a unique psychic or bug hazard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:41:38 No.42063165 Report

Quoted By: >>42063274 >>42064467

>>42063141
No shit. An appealing bug with a subtle boxer theme >>> unorganized UFO with Necrozma body

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:51:53 No.42063274 Report

Quoted By: >>42063305 >>42063358

>>42063165
>sublte boxer theme
>appealing
L-M-A-O

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:54:31 No.42063305 Report

Quoted By: >>42063354

>>42063274
>DUDE WHAT IF IT WAS AN ALIEN
>GIVE IT SCARY SPIRAL EYES
>BRO MAKE ITS SHELL A UFO
>WHEN IT GMAXES IT GETS PROBE LIGHTS

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 15:59:56 No.42063354 Report

Quoted By: >>42064511

>>42063305
Wow, you just pointed out all the stuff that makes it a unique and cool pokemon and not a forgettable shitmon that only retards defend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 16:00:06 No.42063358 Report

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>>42063274
"subtle" is the new "ambiguous"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:10:15 No.42064128 Report

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>>42062003
>35 ATK
>Iron Fist

Literally zero thought into the mon outside what it looks like

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:21:20 No.42064239 Report

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>>42062003
>>42062015
I have a pet theory that Orbeetle started out planned as a regional evo for Ledian, but they realized it was too different and made it its own pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:31:45 No.42064360 Report

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>>42062003
>Soulless
>Soul

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:36:33 No.42064430 Report

Quoted By: >>42064632 >>42064639 >>42064684 >>42064753

>>42062003
why are an insane majority of johtomons complete ass competitively? T-tar is like the only consistent one. Don't say "Scizor" he was a shitmon until Platinum came out

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:37:33 No.42064441 Report

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sentai mon didn't get a mega OR z-move

an actual disgrace

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:39:31 No.42064462 Report

Quoted By: >>42064515

>>42062551
>bug types not fully evolving super early on
This will never not bother me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:39:39 No.42064467 Report

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>>42063165
>>42063074
But Ledian isn't appealing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:42:47 No.42064511 Report

Quoted By: >>42064530 >>42064611

>>42063354
Enjoy your X-files trash, dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:43:39 No.42064515 Report

Quoted By: >>42064655

>>42064462
we've already had a complete subversion of this idea with Volcarona, but the idea was already dead by gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:44:42 No.42064530 Report

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>>42064511
enjoy your shitty boring sentai bug, faggot.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:48:42 No.42064572 Report

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UH ALL THE SPACENOIDS OR COLONY NIGGERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM GET OFF THIS BOARD BECAUSE ITS FOR EARTH DWELLERS ONLY

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:51:40 No.42064604 Report

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:52:05 No.42064611 Report

Quoted By: >>42064698

>>42064511
>no argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:54:45 No.42064632 Report

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>>42064430
>Skarmory

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:55:03 No.42064639 Report

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>>42064430
A notable chunk of them only served as dex filler and played second fiddle to Kanto mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:55:57 No.42064655 Report

Quoted By: >>42064746

>>42064515
I was annoyed by Scolipede too. Oh well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:57:29 No.42064672 Report

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ITT:
OLD GOOD NEW BAD

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:58:31 No.42064684 Report

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>>42064430
They were made to sell merch and their viability in competitive was an afterthought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 17:59:34 No.42064698 Report

Quoted By: >>42064760 >>42064989

>>42064611
>cute, boxer-inspired bug
vs
>disgusting insect with UFO on back

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 18:04:16 No.42064746 Report

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>>42064655
Relatively speaking to Unova's dex Scolipede evolves really early. In any case why would you miss this? Bugs evolving early just meant they were a useless shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 18:04:42 No.42064753 Report

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>>42064430
they expect you to try them out for a few levels and then replace them with something better, usually a KANTOOOOOO pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 18:05:19 No.42064760 Report

Quoted By: >>42064785

>>42064698
Stop trying to force this. It's not working.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 18:07:27 No.42064785 Report

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>>42064760
>tells me to argue for something almost entirely subjective
>"stop trying to force this"

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 18:23:25 No.42064989 Report

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>>42064698
This is getting nowhere, now is it?

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 19:10:41 No.42065692 Report

Quoted By: >>42065865

>>42062209
Ledian is supposed to be based on Gamefreak's older game Pulseman

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 19:12:59 No.42065727 Report

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>>42062209
kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 19:22:45 No.42065865 Report

Quoted By: >>42065906 >>42065980 >>42066172

>>42065692
Ledian is pulseman
Rotom is pulseman
Bisharp is pulseman
I’m pulseman
Is there any other pulsemen we need to know about

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 19:22:48 No.42065866 Report

Quoted By: >>42065930

>>42062209
>i don’t understand the concept so it doesn’t have one
It’s the red ranger dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 19:25:33 No.42065906 Report

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>>42065865
Kek

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 19:27:06 No.42065930 Report

Quoted By: >>42066133

>>42065866
it's actually kamen rider but we'll give you half points for getting close

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 19:29:39 No.42065968 Report

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>>42062018

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 19:30:57 No.42065980 Report

Quoted By: >>42066099

>>42065865
Volt Tackle is based on Volteccer, which is from Pulseman.
God Sugimori just couldn't let Pulseman go for a good while there, fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 19:38:50 No.42066099 Report

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>>42065980
So Pikachu’s the Gary in this skit

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 19:41:18 No.42066133 Report

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>>42065930
it’s just sentai and tokusatsu in general but i remember reading somewhere that it’s design takes specific inspiration from the leader archetype found in sentai shows. It is red after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 19:43:46 No.42066172 Report

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>>42065865
Sure, here is a list of Pulseman references in Pokemon
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_references_to_Pulseman

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 20:14:35 No.42066612 Report

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>>42062015
I wish ledyba was better too. It’s super cute and has a better design than ledian

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Anonymous Tue 24 Dec 2019 20:19:23 No.42066669 Report

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