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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:05:31 No.42103148 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42103209 >>42103212 >>42103332 >>42103367 >>42103382 >>42104166 >>42104698 >>42107067 >>42107525

>50% Boost from strong Jaw
>50% boost from stab
>50% boost from Choice Band
>100% boost from outspeeding the opposing mon

Why aren't you using him for Max Raids?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:06:29 No.42103163 Report

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*blocks your bite*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:09:04 No.42103209 Report

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>>42103148
I do use him for max raids

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:09:16 No.42103212 Report

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>>42103148
I'm trying to get a shiny one first

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:18:04 No.42103332 Report

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>>42103148
>No rain

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:20:26 No.42103367 Report

Quoted By: >>42103406 >>42104166 >>42104218 >>42104242 >>42104408 >>42106006 >>42106096 >>42107525

>>42103148
With friends, viking raids are more fun.

>50% boost from steely spirit
>50% boost from another steely spirit
>50% boost from another steely spirit
>50% boost from another steely spirit
>50% boost from choice band
>50% boost from STAB

It is very silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:21:06 No.42103382 Report

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>>42103148
I can OHKO this thing with Dracozolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:22:40 No.42103406 Report

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>>42103367
Oh god....
I feel so fucking retarded, here I was making partys of one cat and three dogs, but now I see 4 cats is the true way

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:24:07 No.42103434 Report

Quoted By: >>42103468 >>42104324

Because not all pokemon are weak to water

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:26:21 No.42103468 Report

Quoted By: >>42103481 >>42104069

>>42103434
>not all Pokemon are weak to water
>fish 2hkos toxapex and ferrothorn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:27:20 No.42103481 Report

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>>42103468
Irrelevant to max raids, the thread topic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:36:16 No.42103621 Report

Quoted By: >>42103673 >>42104069

What's the point when a level 100 Eternatus can Dynamax Cannon 1 time and make it use shields?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 03:39:30 No.42103673 Report

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>>42103621
Level 100 Dracovish will do more damage to neutral targets than Eternatus

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:05:43 No.42104069 Report

Quoted By: >>42104520

>>42103468
pic

>>42103621
>>42103673
i regularly see dracovish kill THROUGH shields. Sometimes before first shieldbreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:10:50 No.42104166 Report

Quoted By: >>42104909

>>42103148
I'm using 70% accurate OHKO moves to take out two shields at a time.

>>42103367
i mean, i get what you're saying but... that's a lot of hidden ability meowths, and I've yet to come across one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:13:23 No.42104218 Report

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>>42103367
Is this really possible???

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:14:33 No.42104242 Report

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>>42103367
Wait, i thought Steely Spirit only affected allies, not the the user.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:19:31 No.42104324 Report

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>>42103434
Everything is weak to Banded Strongjaw Dracovish in the Rain.

How about a quad resist
>252 Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Dracovish Fishious Rend vs. 252 HP / 24 Def Ferrothorn: 188-222 (53.4 - 63%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:24:53 No.42104407 Report

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>>42104242
Effects everyone and itself so it stacks with stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:25:01 No.42104408 Report

Quoted By: >>42104909

>>42104242
you're right, each of them are boosted thrice though.
1.5^3*1.5*1.5= x7.59375
Which, frankly, even outdamages even the Vish.

>>42103367
>vikings are good at raids
Fitting if you think about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:32:38 No.42104520 Report

Quoted By: >>42104612

>>42104069
Fishous Rend BP 85
x 1.5 from Strong Jaw
x 2 from going first
BP is now 255 and that's before other modifiers like STAB, Band, and Rain. Dracovish is insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:37:18 No.42104612 Report

Quoted By: >>42104786

>>42104520
where does attack stat factor into damage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:42:04 No.42104698 Report

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>>42103148
my go-to max raid pokemon.
cute and destructive, stupid little fish dragon boy destroying giant fucking pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:47:51 No.42104786 Report

Quoted By: >>42105022

>>42104612
Coomer cat has +20 base attack and +33.75 Base power on vish.
The main factor is how many things resist each type. That and the fact that viking raids are rad as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:55:51 No.42104909 Report

Quoted By: >>42105762

>>42104242
As far as I know it works on the user. I mean, it seems to? but I just saw it and fucking ran with it. I didn't actually do any research.

>>42104166
First one's the hardest, then you can start breeding. I think it's a 60% chance or something.

>>42104408
You know what's even better? Viking kitties work GREAT with Brave natures, especially if you're fighting something that uses max airstream.
Max your Attack, minimize speed, and run gyro ball. If the kitties are slow enough and the raid mon is fast enough, you get all this nonsense being used on a 100+ power move. It's fucking hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 05:02:21 No.42105022 Report

Quoted By: >>42105154

>>42104786
>+33.75 Base power on vish.

Uhhh, Fisheous Rend has a base power of 170 if it goes first. You sure about that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 05:09:20 No.42105154 Report

Quoted By: >>42105550 >>42105762

>>42105022
80*1.5^5(3 spirits, band and stab) = 607.5
85*2(go first)*1.5(STAB)*1.5(Band)*1.5(Jaw) = 573.75

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 05:36:50 No.42105550 Report

Quoted By: >>42105574

>>42105154
Fish is stronger if there's rain (860.625)
Cat is stronger if spirit works on self (911.25)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 05:38:16 No.42105574 Report

Quoted By: >>42105630

>>42105550
Cat?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 05:43:43 No.42105630 Report

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>>42105574
is fine, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 05:56:16 No.42105762 Report

Quoted By: >>42106136

>>42105154
oh. not base. after multiplying gotcha.

>>42104909
at level 100, even with minimal speed (94), gyroball is less damage than iron head unless their speed is above 300.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 06:19:09 No.42106006 Report

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>>42103367
Now this is interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 06:28:09 No.42106096 Report

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>>42103367
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 06:31:17 No.42106136 Report

Quoted By: >>42106997

>>42105762
>"That sounds neat" is not actually an optimal method of team building.

...
FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 06:35:44 No.42106180 Report

Quoted By: >>42106248

So this is why they don't have triple battles anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 06:43:42 No.42106248 Report

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>>42106180
they dont have triple battles because they decided to have the trainers stand behind the pokemon in battles now. although the game can clearly handle 9 models at once, i guess 6 pokemon plus 2 trainers would somehow make the game lag too much, which is why they were also not in alola
i really miss triple battles, they were all i ever played in white, white 2, y, and OR

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 08:37:27 No.42106997 Report

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>>42106136
i mean, 4Cat is still a monster of a raid strategy, up there with 3Vishes and a Pelican.

It's just gyroball that's hard to make work. You need a truly dismal speed to make up for the 40 level difference. It takes speed at minimum aprox 32% of the target before it exceeds ironhead.

For minimum speed ferrothorn? that's 40. Pretty easy to find in competitive environ, not super hard in PvE.
Perserker has more than double that base speed though. So while Ferrothorn would be getting the max 150bp for x6+, against a lvl100 jolly raichu, Perserker is only at 68bp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 08:48:33 No.42107067 Report

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>>42103148
>Water Absorb

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 10:11:07 No.42107525 Report

Quoted By: >>42107766 >>42108253

>>42103148
>>42103367
As if power matters for raids when Pokemon put up their stupid shields every other turn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 10:53:43 No.42107766 Report

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>>42107525
If I'm correct SE hits do a bit of damage while shields are still up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 12:05:40 No.42108253 Report

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>>42107525
It does if you can half the Pokemon's health before they even get the shield up. But honestly as long as you're not an underlevelled faggot, or bring shitmons you're ok in my book.

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