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>>42163733
believe it or not, B/W 1 and 2 are still somewhat tame about stupid NPC holdups but recently I've been trying out X and it's absolute cancer and the dialogue bullshit dropping on you seems even more frequent.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:32:43 No.42163899 Report

Quoted By: >>42164074 >>42167611

>>42163733
That is the game, just because it's not battling doesn't mean it's unimportant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:35:02 No.42163927 Report

Quoted By: >>42163962 >>42165047 >>42165133 >>42173473

>>42163733
>competitivefag's brain stops working when confronted by the smallest strand of lore
So happy that i'm not a subhuman like OP

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:35:58 No.42163941 Report

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>>42163839
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:36:58 No.42163955 Report

Quoted By: >>42163983

>>42163733
Before a big le epic internet fight happens let me just say;
>the pokestar cutscene is garbage and should have been cut
>however it only happens once and is way less annoying than the constant cutscenes every 5 mins in the 3D games, especially XY and SSh as their stories are boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:37:06 No.42163958 Report

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>>42163733
That is the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:37:18 No.42163962 Report

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>>42163927
>Claims to like lore
>Likes the dogshit writing in BW, and frankly, in Pokemon all around

l o l

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:37:37 No.42163966 Report

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>>42163733
ADHD Fag

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:38:40 No.42163983 Report

Quoted By: >>42164089 >>42166142

>>42163955
BW2's story is shit too though. Infinitely worse than BW2's and you get stopped more often too. It's only saving grace is that it's shitty ancient presentation of cutscenes makes them happen faster than in 3D games, but easily still putrid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:39:34 No.42163992 Report

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>>42163733
This is what ruins BW2, SUCKS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:46:09 No.42164074 Report

Quoted By: >>42173578

>>42163899
WTF, is an extra. Imagine how hated would it be if in Sun and Moon, somebody had forced you to learn how to use Pokémon Refresh, Poké Pelago or Festival Plaza stopping the story for a +10 min each tutorial.

But if its something from gen 5, we can forgive it. Unovaborts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:47:31 No.42164087 Report

Quoted By: >>42164114

>>42163893
this is false. BW2 has far more obnoxious interruptions than XY does. Hell I'd even argue BW2 has more interruptions than fucking SS. It's the worst game behind SM/USUM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:47:36 No.42164089 Report

Quoted By: >>42164897 >>42164935

>>42163983
This.

BW2 is only good because of postgame. BW not even that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:49:43 No.42164114 Report

Quoted By: >>42164146

>>42164087
SM/USUM stops you to tell you something about the story, not to explain you a shitty bonus minigame or to repeat you the same thing all over again.

Yes Sonia, we already know there are 2 heroes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:54:01 No.42164146 Report

Quoted By: >>42164165

>>42164114
SunMoon stops you a bit for the RotomDex photo thing at the beginning. And USUM stops you for the surf and the Totem Sticker shit.

I agree is much less than BW2, especially SM, USUM explains you more shit. But game freak wants you to know everything new they add.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:55:23 No.42164165 Report

Quoted By: >>42164186 >>42164196 >>42164254 >>42164893 >>42165029 >>42172259

>>42164146
Which reminds me, why didn't SwSh have a Dynamax tutorial? I died to shitty fucking Milo because I forgot the thing existed because we literally get no tutorial on the actualy new mechanic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:56:09 No.42164172 Report

Quoted By: >>42164248

>>42163733
>"Man, Pokemon used to had so much more content to do then just the Gym Challenge! Fuck new pokemon games!"
>plays B2W2
>"WTF I have to sit through a one time introduction to this games' side content? DROPPED!"
This just goes to show you that no one here really cares about extra side content beyond bragging rights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:57:37 No.42164186 Report

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>>42164165
Shit was rushed as fuck for that Black Friday/Christmas release.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 22:58:45 No.42164196 Report

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>>42164165
How could you die to Milo? I beated him with 1 Pokémon without Dynamax.

And yes, in SwSh they tried hard to not show you any kind of tutorial. That's the only good thing about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:03:12 No.42164248 Report

Quoted By: >>42164348

>>42164172
The Pokéstar thing and the Join Avenue are not side content. Those are shitty and boring bonus minigames.

Just like the musical.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:03:40 No.42164254 Report

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>>42164165

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:06:50 No.42164306 Report

Quoted By: >>42164358 >>42164380 >>42164932 >>42166656

When do people just admit there's nothing about pokemon anyone enjoys.
Nobody enjoys the "story"
Nobody enjoys going through the gyms
All the side content (pokestar studios, contests, triathlon etc) go largely unplayed
Injectfags and cheaters that can't stand doing anything in the game that doesn't provide instant results but think they deserve to have shinies but are too afraid to spend 20mins breeding for 1 good iv pokemon
raids and any other battle can't even keep 5% of your attention and engagement as you sit there and mash A until you win with the screen to your side while you do something else actually interesting.

When do players admit that gamefreak should just make an online battle simulator where you just pick your pokemon and manually choose its stats and moves, toss in a small area so you can spin in circles for hours for shinies. Nothing gamefreak can even make is remotely fun to it's playerbase so why even bother doing more than that

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:10:26 No.42164348 Report

Quoted By: >>42164365 >>42164370

>>42164248
>I don't like it, therefore it's not side content!
How is starring in movies, dressing pokemon up for plays, and managing a mall not side content?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:10:56 No.42164358 Report

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>>42164306
I liked BW and SM characters and story. I like to explore new regions, even Galar (although there is almost nothing to explore there), I like to catch new Pokémon, to battle, and to play online.

I like Pokémon.

>But no, i don't like to make a movie, a musical or whatever Unova shitty minigame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:11:41 No.42164365 Report

Quoted By: >>42164530

>>42164348
It's not, it's just fluff. Next you'll tell me the PR video thing from XY was side content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:12:23 No.42164370 Report

Quoted By: >>42164460

>>42164348
It's side content, but just as it is side content, the tutorial should be a side tutorial too. Not mandatory. Thanks for your attention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:13:25 No.42164380 Report

Quoted By: >>42167553

>>42164306
you can tell this was written by a breedfaggot frustrated from sucking on tauros' cock too much

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:14:12 No.42164390 Report

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Polestar studios was outright one if the best things in the game. It was cool, interesting, could play out differently and had a bunch of intriguing scenarios, plus some had challenge to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:15:03 No.42164397 Report

Quoted By: >>42170951 >>42171034 >>42174163

>>42163893
Gen 5 stops you more than gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:19:54 No.42164460 Report

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>>42164370
Based

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:22:02 No.42164485 Report

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>>42163733
ironically a lot of the extra content in B2W2 would've benefited a shitton more if they divorced it from being tied to main game progress. I guarantee shit like the difficulty modes and PokéStar would've been way more positive standouts if they let you use them fully from the get-go instead of gating them behind arbitrary points in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:26:39 No.42164530 Report

Quoted By: >>42164898

>>42164365
PR video is for avatar customization purposes and it's no different than league cards. Comparing that to Pokestar Studios and etc. is like comparing the Game Corner to the Boutique Shop. See the difference?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:44:12 No.42164762 Report

Quoted By: >>42164870

>>42163733
the pokestar studio shit doesn't take more than 10 minutes

the join avenue was a fantastic feature and new games should bring it back

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:51:35 No.42164870 Report

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>>42164762
I wasted there like 15 min. And even if you go fast and is 10... It's still bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:52:16 No.42164879 Report

Quoted By: >>42164917 >>42166339 >>42166557

>>42163733
BUT ALOLA
BUT GALAR
NPC HOLDUPS IN GEN 5 DON'T COUNT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:53:00 No.42164893 Report

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>>42164165
how the fuck did you miss the giant "DYNAMAX" button

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:53:26 No.42164897 Report

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>>42164089
>BW2 is only good because of postgame
This is true, the main game of BW2 is actually pretty fucking bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:53:25 No.42164898 Report

Quoted By: >>42164919 >>42164928 >>42165100 >>42170989

>>42164530
Ok, let's compare it with the Poké Pelago or the Festival Plaza.

Wow, non of those had mandatory tutorials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:54:27 No.42164917 Report

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>>42164879
Alola does it far better. And Galar too.

What's your point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:54:40 No.42164919 Report

Quoted By: >>42165092

>>42164898
But they did, tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:54:57 No.42164927 Report

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>>42163733
>we will never have kino like join Avenue again
Not fair bros...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:55:00 No.42164928 Report

Quoted By: >>42164956 >>42165026

>>42164898
Contests in RSE/DPPt didn't have mandatory tutorials
Pokeathlon didn't have a mandatory tutorial

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:55:17 No.42164932 Report

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>>42164306
>When do people just admit there's nothing about pokemon anyone enjoys.
Soon, hopefully. This board needs a mercy bullet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:55:30 No.42164935 Report

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>>42164089
True

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2019 23:56:48 No.42164956 Report

Quoted By: >>42166557

>>42164928
This.

But let's praise gen 5 because N husbando.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:01:30 No.42165026 Report

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>>42164928
And funny enough, B2W2 contests didn't have mandatory tutorials either. No one said the tutorials were good, it's just not a good enough reason to ragequit the game.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:01:41 No.42165029 Report

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>>42164165
...

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:02:42 No.42165047 Report

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>>42163927
Kek!

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:05:26 No.42165092 Report

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>>42164919
No. Only if you want to use it, the tutorial appears. If you don't, then you won't be bothered. Not the same as this.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:05:50 No.42165100 Report

Quoted By: >>42165160 >>42165323

>>42164898
>no mandatory tutorial

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:06:44 No.42165116 Report

Quoted By: >>42165153

>>42165026
Yeah. But just because it was explained in the original BW...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:07:49 No.42165133 Report

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>>42163927
>pokemon
>good plot
Pick one faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:08:16 No.42165139 Report

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ITT: braindead zoomers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:09:19 No.42165153 Report

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>>42165116
there's nothing to even explain about the musicals desu, it's just another cutscene in a game of cutscenes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:09:34 No.42165157 Report

Quoted By: >>42165184

>>42165092
But you do have to use for the Festival Plaza, if you want to go online and trade, battle, etc. Why they decided to lock online play behind a Avenue Mall clone is beyond me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:09:38 No.42165160 Report

Quoted By: >>42165340

>>42165100
Again. The tutorial is not mandatory if you don't want to use that thing.

Poké Pelago appears and no one says nothing to you. If you want to use it, you'll see the explanation, but if not, you won't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:11:16 No.42165184 Report

Quoted By: >>42173656

>>42165157
I'm not saying the Festival plaza was good.

But even with that, the tutorial is waay shorter than the Pokéwood one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:20:53 No.42165323 Report

Quoted By: >>42165414

>>42165100
Festival Plaza and Poké Pelago were not mandatory. Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:21:51 No.42165340 Report

Quoted By: >>42165404

>>42165160
Following that logic you can just not play and never experience a tutorial which is what the game as a whole was

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:26:33 No.42165402 Report

Quoted By: >>42165439 >>42165581

Well will /vp/tards realize that pokestar studios tutorial being forced is like, one issue in an otherwise phenomenal game. Yes it sucks but its a one and done thing and the game doesnt stop you to do this shit otherwise.

No game is perfect, and i realize that thats a fucking absurd thing to say in regards to the pokemon franchise but i think that considering gen 5 was one of the generations where they were actually giving a damn, its fair to give the game a pass for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:26:42 No.42165404 Report

Quoted By: >>42165436

>>42165340
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:27:35 No.42165414 Report

Quoted By: >>42165474

>>42165323
Now you are being pedantic. You can't use them without exposition being shoved down your throat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:28:36 No.42165436 Report

Quoted By: >>42165454

>>42165404
Kill yourself faggot you ran out of field to move your goalpost

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:28:44 No.42165439 Report

Quoted By: >>42165537

>>42165402
Tell me another good thing about BW2 that's not the postgame.

BW2 main story sucks so bad. Tutorials are bad and story is bad as always.

If a game is good but when you end it... That says a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:29:47 No.42165454 Report

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>>42165436
>Thinking this is my post
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:31:31 No.42165474 Report

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>>42165414
Contests and Pokeathlon say hello.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:33:58 No.42165517 Report

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>>42163733
I wonder traded my mewtwo, cobalion, terrakion, and reshiram on y and omega ruby. I lack the attention span to get them back by starting new games because my strong pokemon are trapped on moon. Son a bitch gamefreak. The next games better have all the legendaries usable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:35:12 No.42165537 Report

Quoted By: >>42165773

>>42165439
- main story sucks
Subjective

Anyways lets go over some of them, shall we?
- join avenue
- pokestar studios, once you get past the tutorial
- Entralink
- Battle Subway
-hunting pokemon to finish your dex is more fun with the habitat list

> "b-but postgame!-"
Nice try dumbass, theyre not locked behind the postgame

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:37:41 No.42165581 Report

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>>42165402
Because contrarianfags needs to nitpick and hammer down that one issue in order to make the whole game look bad and literally unplayable as a whole. Why? Because B2W2 are popular games in this fandom, and contrarianism has reached an all-time high on 4chan over the years. It's the same tactic they tried with Emerald, Platinum and HGSS.
>Too much water = Unplayable
>Too slow = Unplayable
>Bad Level distribution = Unplayable
And now it's:
>Mandatory Tutorials = Unplayable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:37:54 No.42165584 Report

Quoted By: >>42165627 >>42165676 >>42165690 >>42166557

>>42163733
This type of post is exactly why /vp/ is the worst place on the fucking internet.

OP is right. BW/B2W2 have unnecessary, gameplay invading cutscenes just like XY, SM, and SwSh, but nobody complains about BW because ???. I actually have no fucking clue why nobody complains about BW, because if you actually go back and play it, it has the SAME EXACT PROBLEMS you "people" complain about with SwSh.

I genuinely implore you to go back and play these games, and actually think about what they actually are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:38:55 No.42165598 Report

Quoted By: >>42172234 >>42174274

>>42163866
Tbh man for me, personally, I have more fun when the story is over so I can start working on my bros. Breeding, training, etc.
Also I want to play a game. Not read it. It wouldn't be so bad but pokémon doesn't even have voices. It's a shame considering the phone apps have voice actors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:41:15 No.42165627 Report

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>>42165584
I have been replaying both games back to back this past month, aside from PSS there is piterally no example of this that isnt directly related to battles themselves, which are, you know, the core gameplay that new players would need to know about. Stop making shit up to seem contrarian

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:44:32 No.42165676 Report

Quoted By: >>42165825

>>42165584
Sure but it has post-game areas to explore so it's better.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:45:24 No.42165690 Report

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>>42165584
>>OP is right. BW/B2W2 have unnecessary, gameplay invading cutscenes just like XY, SM, and SwSh, but nobody complains about BW because ???.
>but nobody complains about BW because ???.
Newfag alert!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:48:21 No.42165738 Report

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>>42163733
You can add Alder, he’s annoying as hell at the beginning of BW2

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:50:42 No.42165773 Report

Quoted By: >>42165826 >>42173338

>>42165537
>join avenue and pokestar sucks. Especially Pokestar.

And you just said side content, why?
I was talking about main story. BW2 main story has nothing, is short, boring and full of tutorials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:51:02 No.42165777 Report

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>>42163733
I'd say Gen V is really what started this epidemic. Gen IV feels just as bad, but that's more of a result of the games being slow as shit in general.
Gen I and II are totally free from it, and III and IV have just a little bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:53:09 No.42165825 Report

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>>42165676
>You have to complete the game to see the good part.

... Pretty sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:53:18 No.42165826 Report

Quoted By: >>42165857

>>42165773
> again, subjective

Battle related side content is gated off via postgame to make sure youve got a handle on things. Literally every pokemon game does this, stop bitching that the one game you dont like does it too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:53:37 No.42165833 Report

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>>42163733
since this thread is still alive I guess i will fall for the bait . BW and BW2 cut scene where not so bad that I had to force my self to play like xy and sun and moon .

my brother and friends stop playing because of the cut scene but they all have complete bw

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:54:11 No.42165844 Report

Quoted By: >>42165850

>>42165690
Unovabort alert!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:54:35 No.42165850 Report

Quoted By: >>42165874

>>42165844
Retard alert!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:55:14 No.42165857 Report

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>>42165826
Gen 1, 2, 3 or 4 laugh

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:56:16 No.42165874 Report

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>>42165850
A retarded saying retarded to another retarded. We all retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:15:26 No.42166142 Report

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>>42163983
>BW2's story is shit too though. Infinitely worse than BW2's
What?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:28:46 No.42166339 Report

Quoted By: >>42166476 >>42166495

>>42164879
You're right, the Gen 5 ones DON'T count, because they don't have all the fades to black, camera pans and pointless animations that make the 3D ones absolutely unbearable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:37:21 No.42166476 Report

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>>42166339
Bad take

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:38:40 No.42166495 Report

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>>42166339
It's still as shitty because it's trying to be pretentious wank

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:44:05 No.42166557 Report

Quoted By: >>42166601 >>42166606 >>42166648

>>42164879
>>42165584
>>42164956
I get it now. Is this whole thread just the result of some seething Alolasomes and Galarvaes trying to scapegoating their problems on Unova as usual? From the looks of this, it might be the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:49:07 No.42166601 Report

Quoted By: >>42166617 >>42166663

>>42166557
More like people recognising that a lot of trends from nupokemon started in gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:49:18 No.42166606 Report

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>>42166557
Maybe, but it's also the thread where a bunch of Unovaborts cry loud

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:50:23 No.42166617 Report

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>>42166601
Where do you see love to shitty Galar/Alola????

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:52:41 No.42166648 Report

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>>42166557
This is just a retard crying because he found out that even Galar the bullshit did a better job in some aspects than his beloved Unova.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:53:01 No.42166656 Report

Quoted By: >>42167537

>>42164306
Pokestar Studios is just too obnoxious. It happens too randomly and kills the momentum of the game after a gym fight, not to say it's needlessly long. You already learn what it's about on the first tutorial film, why do you have to make another. Besides, the rewards aren't even worth playing it, being just a "press the super effective move" minigame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:53:11 No.42166663 Report

Quoted By: >>42166682 >>42166703

>>42166601
A lot of trends from nupokemon started in gen 3, actually. It's just that Gen 5 took those trends to next level, just like how Gen 7 took it to next level after it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:54:36 No.42166682 Report

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>>42166663
And gen 8 ruined it all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:56:15 No.42166703 Report

Quoted By: >>42166723 >>42174216

>>42166663
Gen 7 just made cutscenes longer, but did no bonus minigames long tutorials mandatory. That's something exclusive from gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 01:57:52 No.42166723 Report

Quoted By: >>42167322

>>42166703
Oh fuck off already, we would be lucky to get any substantial minigames or non-battle activities at all now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 02:03:46 No.42166833 Report

Quoted By: >>42167360

>Game has scenes, game bad, just want play game

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 02:05:29 No.42166870 Report

Quoted By: >>42166990

We can argue about Pokestar Studios being a pace breaking cutscene, but anybody who considers it on the same tier as even Contests is a fucking retard. It's just the Battle Sims from Gale of Darkness. Similarly, Pokestar Studios is both structured similarly to one of the mandatory cutscenes that then forces you to fight your rival or Plasma or something, so the only reason people don't like it is because it's out of nowhere and involves something they might not care about. I guess I feel the same way about the Plasma related interruptions in B2W2 because they're just fucking retarded as opposed to BW's Plasma at least being mildly interesting conceptually. On the other hand Pokestar Studios is something I don't mind getting interrupted by because that's the kind of shit I'm into. Spreading out optional content through the whole game is better than just jamming it all at the end, especially when postgame unlocks more of it in the old and new areas. I will say if you're a speedrunner or the kind of person than liked Sword or Shield, being forced to participate in something you don't want to deal with is still a pain.
Fun Fact: B2W2's speedun is shorter than BW's by a few minutes, while Platinum and DP's speedruns are slower than Gen 5's by half an hour. In addition, only 8 people have ever bothered to speedrun DP, because why would you torture yourself with that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 02:13:43 No.42166990 Report

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>>42166870
D/P speedruns suck because of void glitch allowed any% being the main category. The game is just get the bike and warp to HoF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 02:36:43 No.42167322 Report

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>>42166723
That's true

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 02:38:32 No.42167360 Report

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>>42166833
Scenes are not bad, that's not the point of this.

Mandatory tutorials for an optional minigame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 02:52:07 No.42167537 Report

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>>42166656
> just a "press the supereffective move" fest
Retard didnt even play the movies beyond brycen man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 02:53:42 No.42167553 Report

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>>42164380
>frustrated from sucking on tauros' cock
mate if we could do that then Pokemon would be the best thing ever not frustrating

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 02:58:12 No.42167611 Report

Quoted By: >>42167691 >>42173552

>>42163899
Dude, even Metal Gear games let you skip cutscenes and fastforward through Codec calls.
Story in a video game is like story in a porn movie; it's expected to be there but it's not that important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 03:03:24 No.42167691 Report

Quoted By:

>>42167611
That's just your opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 03:46:38 No.42168258 Report

Quoted By:

this is a small portion of shit in an otherwise great game
the tutorial aside, pokestar studios is a pain in the ass to play. at least they gave us the PWT too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 06:43:49 No.42170730 Report

Quoted By:

Am I the only anon on this board that never had a problem with forced tutorials and frequent interuptions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 06:55:42 No.42170837 Report

Quoted By: >>42171061

>>42163733
People like to pretend this shit didn't become exponentially more intrusive in Gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 07:09:11 No.42170951 Report

Quoted By: >>42171075

>>42164397
that's wrong considering the speedrun for gen 6 is a whole hour longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 07:12:58 No.42170989 Report

Quoted By: >>42171065

>>42164898
The festival plaza does have a mandatory tutorial, dumb Alolasome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 07:16:58 No.42171020 Report

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>>42163733
Gen VII and VIII are like two long Pokéstar tutorials that never end. Luckily the rest of BW2 is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 07:18:00 No.42171034 Report

Quoted By: >>42173402

>>42163893
XY is pretty bad but it’s nothing compared to SM/SWSHIT.

>>42164397
Nope. You literally just made that up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 07:19:48 No.42171047 Report

Quoted By:

>>42164254
thx for the reaction image anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 07:21:26 No.42171061 Report

Quoted By:

>>42170837
At least Gen 5 has content and good route design, unlike the 3DS games that have the same issues but no content, shitty route design, and horrible pacing alongside it.
That's the reason why people complain about it less for Gen 5 than for the Gens that come after it. Because Gen 5 still treated the Pokemon series as a JRPG instead of a walking simulator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 07:22:06 No.42171065 Report

Quoted By: >>42171075 >>42171079

>>42170989
BW 3h15m
BW2 3h12m
XY 3h42m

>"1hour longer"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 07:23:07 No.42171075 Report

Quoted By:

>>42170951
>>42171065

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 07:23:30 No.42171079 Report

Quoted By: >>42171209

>>42171065
whatever, still longer bitch and that's the entire point that I was making.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 07:39:36 No.42171209 Report

Quoted By:

>>42171079
ever thought about the possibility that the game in general are longer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 07:53:56 No.42171325 Report

Quoted By:

>>42163893
I don't remember X/Y being that bad with stopping the player. It's not a good game, but it's not like Sun/Moon, which is like some kind of game long tutorial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 09:35:44 No.42172121 Report

Quoted By:

>>42163733
*Walks up to you with a key item*

Here Trainer, no need to explore!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 09:43:41 No.42172187 Report

Quoted By:

>>42163733
The constant interruptions in BW and BW2 was the beginning of the end

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 09:51:41 No.42172234 Report

Quoted By:

>>42165598
oh
you're one of those

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 09:54:46 No.42172259 Report

Quoted By:

>>42164165
this is the kind of people that bought the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:15:15 No.42173338 Report

Quoted By:

>>42165773
Colress is cool.
So are N's memories
So is fighting Ghechis again with a stronger team
So is seeing Iris as champion
So is fighting the complete Kyruem
So are the new gyms with unique background music

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:22:01 No.42173402 Report

Quoted By: >>42173592

>>42171034
SWSH has the same amount of cutscenes BW does, it's just that you notice them more because they're actual cutscenes instead of just 2D sprites blocking you with their wall of text. Actually even then BW manages to have its own cutscenes anyway, like that gay ass ferris wheel ride with N.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:32:55 No.42173473 Report

Quoted By:

>>42163927
Because Pokemon games are famus for their amazing stories

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:44:50 No.42173552 Report

Quoted By:

>>42167611
Seconded. If I want a story, I'll read a book or watch a movie. The only game I've played that's worse than Gen 7 with shoving a shitty story down your throat constantly is far cry 5. Far cry's intro movie is 34 minutes, I forget the length of SM's

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:45:44 No.42173564 Report

Quoted By:

>>42163733
>hoennbabbies are seething so hard they spam the entire board with their shittaste
Topkek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:49:21 No.42173578 Report

Quoted By:

>>42164074
In USUM you're forced to learn how to use Festival Plaza.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:51:11 No.42173592 Report

Quoted By:

>>42173402
This is false, BW2 has the same amount of cutscene and handholding of SM, which iirc is a little less than USUM. Still they have an hour or so less cutscenes than SS (skipping the skippable ones), because an anon was so autistic to actually time it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 14:01:47 No.42173656 Report

Quoted By: >>42173862

>>42165184
It may be shorter timewise, but it’s a lot more tedious
Pokestar Studios:
>some dialogue
>watch a movie (which requires no input)
>story event
>more text
>make a movie (which takes two turns and is piss easy)
>leave
Join Avenue but worse
>cutscene with Sophocles where he tells you about every single facility in the plaza
>talk to one person
>receive FC
>fade to black
>another cutscene
>fade to black
>talk to two more people, receive FC
>advance to rank 2
>place a new shop in the plaza
>unlock the bottom screen menu and leave

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 14:36:55 No.42173862 Report

Quoted By:

>>42173656
friendly reminder that the festival plaza wasn't mandatory to complete the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 14:51:55 No.42173974 Report

Quoted By:

Mama let that boy, play some pok'e'mon
DQ is much too crazy
He can blame you when he's old
He's too young for the SMT
He's still inside his first pair of shoes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:20:08 No.42174163 Report

Quoted By: >>42174188

>>42164397
Made up bullshit.
The "friends" bullshit, mega, flare crap were way longer than in BW. And less enjoyable as well than BW2 excluding the pokestar introduction

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:22:35 No.42174187 Report

Quoted By:

To an extent I agree with Pokestar, but the other two are just fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:22:36 No.42174188 Report

Quoted By: >>42174249 >>42174336

>>42174163
why don't you go ahead and watch a speedrun and time how often they stop you and compare it to bw

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:26:04 No.42174216 Report

Quoted By:

>>42166703
Atleast they were interesting side features to enjoy from time to time in a "linear" region unlike the soul-less sidecontent in newer games which were 90% chore 10% fun. Making bizzare movies was fun. Being a mall manager was fun from time to time. And yeah Join Avenue > Festival Plaza. Cheap knock-off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:29:32 No.42174249 Report

Quoted By: >>42174272 >>42174330

>>42174188
Why do I need to watch some rando speedrun when I have played the games myself and know what I experienced after finishing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:31:55 No.42174272 Report

Quoted By:

>>42174249
so you are talking out of your ass? aight

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:32:39 No.42174274 Report

Quoted By: >>42174316

>>42165598
My favourite part of any pokemon game was grinding up each of my team one by one and getting attached to them like virtual pets.
Now I cant even enjoy that thanks to the cunting permanent exp share

There's nothing left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:37:28 No.42174316 Report

Quoted By:

>>42174274
This. Feels like theyve sanded off everything enjoyable about the series. And each time they do people defend it as "No ever plays pokemon for that"
Well now what? Whats left to play it for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:38:12 No.42174330 Report

Quoted By: >>42174380 >>42174609 >>42174654 >>42174687 >>42175665

>>42174249
Because you evidently remember wrong, Anon that timed how long do cutscenes takes, SS takes the cake with two hours ± fifteen minutes of cutscenes, USUM and B2W2 have the same amount at one hour and half, though B2W2 is technically longer if you actually read all the messages (all the times are taken skipping cutscenes if possible and mashing through dialogues), SM is slightly faster at one hour and twenty minutes, followed by BW one hour and ten/fifteen, XY one hour, DPP and ORAS 50 minutes, RSE, GSC and FRLG half an hour/forty minutes (though I didn't time these well, only the long ones)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:38:54 No.42174336 Report

Quoted By: >>42174377

>>42174188
bw and bw 2 speedrun took 3:17:00 while XY took 3:42:00 and SM/USUM took 5 hours, a whooping 2 hours longer than bw. that's enough for me to decide xy took longer of your time and that's considering bw2 still had way more content (minigames, postgame) to do compared to xy??

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:43:40 No.42174377 Report

Quoted By: >>42174398

>>42174336
>there is no way the games can be longer in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:43:45 No.42174380 Report

Quoted By:

>>42174330
>SS takes the cake with two hours
Heh, prove that cutscene length is irrrelevant when SS is still objectively more enjoyable to play than the other games there despite having more than half-hour worth of cutscenes. SM/USUM were still far more painful to endure despite being faster.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:46:07 No.42174398 Report

Quoted By: >>42174409

>>42174377
Longer games despite having worse gameplay and less stuff to do? Yikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:46:51 No.42174409 Report

Quoted By: >>42174478

>>42174398
yeah means gen 5 is shit and gen 7 is the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:53:30 No.42174478 Report

Quoted By: >>42174499

>>42174409
The power of an Alolasome....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:55:42 No.42174499 Report

Quoted By: >>42174576

>>42174478
The power of {insert buzzword}....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:03:28 No.42174576 Report

Quoted By: >>42174608

>>42174499
>Every term that offends me is a buzzword!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:06:46 No.42174608 Report

Quoted By:

>>42174576
>alolasome is not a buzzword
you ok?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:06:58 No.42174609 Report

Quoted By: >>42174620 >>42174866

>>42174330
What the fuck? There is no way SS has more cutscenes than SM. I vididly remember people that refused to shut up in SM, yet in SS everytime a faggot started speaking it would be like, 2 or 3 speech balloons worth of dialogue at most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:08:11 No.42174620 Report

Quoted By: >>42174628

>>42174609
Just admit that SM/USUM isn't as bad as you boomers think and old games weren't any better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:09:18 No.42174628 Report

Quoted By: >>42174654

>>42174620
I'm not calling them bad or knocking on them, I am genuinely baffled that SwSh has more cutscenes than SM, when I felt the polar opposite while playing them. I am wondering if the guy that counted the cutscenes was doing something wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:11:34 No.42174654 Report

Quoted By: >>42174680

>>42174628
Now I feel stupid. I thought it was Soul Silver because >>42174330 didn't mention HGSS and I thought he wouldn't skip them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:13:55 No.42174680 Report

Quoted By:

>>42174654
You can probably presume that when people are talking about "fucking cutscenes" they're refering to BW and above games, since BW is when the trend of more fuckers talking at you than before started,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:14:55 No.42174687 Report

Quoted By: >>42174866

>>42174330
You have RSE, GSC, FRLG, DPP, where is HGSS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:31:18 No.42174866 Report

Quoted By:

>>42174609
SS has 50~55 minutes of cutscenes in the first hour and a half (up to the first gym), while SM and USUM only clock that at around the two and a quarter mark. Seems strange but it's mostly because SM takes longer in terms of battles and mechanics in general.
Also, what I call cutscenes may vary, as for example I don't include PCenter visits, nor "press A to pund", neither Opal question, but I do consider the 5 minutes of mashed text in Rihan gym for example. >>42174687
Never fully tested them, but I can tell you playing the guy is actually decently faster

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 17:52:20 No.42175665 Report

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>>42174330
How will they ever recover from the cold hard truth?

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