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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:13:01 No.42165206 View View Reply Original Report

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Don’t worry, VGCtranny. Maybe one day you too will have a fair and balanced metAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:15:42 No.42165242 Report

Quoted By: >>42165327 >>42172232 >>42172261 >>42172496

>>42165206
This is what a high level showdown game looks like: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1038363529

So yeah, don't get too cocky smogonkeks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:21:01 No.42165327 Report

Quoted By: >>42165453

>>42165206
At least vgc format have enough freedom to have a minimum of strategy in its matches.
Smogon format is just a succession of coin tosses, as seen in there >>42165242

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:23:05 No.42165360 Report

Quoted By: >>42165519

>>42165206
dexit fixed this retard, stop posting years old shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:29:45 No.42165453 Report

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>>42165327
>guess who uses protect: the game
WOW SO MUCH FUN

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:34:07 No.42165519 Report

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>>42165360
>Culled mons just replaced with equally good ones that fill the same roles
nice fix, VGCunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:35:25 No.42165541 Report

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>>42165206
what even counts as a fair and balanced meta, both vgc and smogon metas have extremely similar usage rates so long as box legends are kicked out

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 00:52:08 No.42165801 Report

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>>42165519
mind post an evidence with those guesses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 02:33:09 No.42167267 Report

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>>42165206
seethe harder smogonig

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 02:58:37 No.42167618 Report

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>>42165206
Now post one that ISN'T almost 5 years old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 03:37:16 No.42168136 Report

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>>42165206
why this nigga got a rhydon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 06:02:03 No.42170253 Report

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>>42167618
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO T-THAT META DOESN’T COOOOOOOUUUUUUNTTTT
the absolute STATE of VGCucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 09:51:02 No.42172232 Report

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>>42170253
Nice 50/50 meta you got there, smogoncucks:
>>42165242

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 09:54:09 No.42172251 Report

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>>42170253
>gyarados, dog and duck in top 8

super based meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 09:55:29 No.42172261 Report

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>>42165242
This replay showcases a broken Pokemon which has been banned and two suboptimally played teams. Maybe find a tournament replay instead of two midladder randoms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 09:56:58 No.42172272 Report

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>>42172261
>1750
>midladder
Kay retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:00:30 No.42172290 Report

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>>42172261
didn’t know toxapex was banned

in all honestly though the second hippowdon switch in could’ve been predicted

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:02:27 No.42172301 Report

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>>42172290
Darmanitan. The Rotom user had way better odds of victory if he didn't blow his load early and set up on the Toxapex. Tge Toxapex user should have Hazed turn two, it's well in his favour to use that after Sub was revealed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:04:54 No.42172313 Report

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>>42170253
The last guy was probably the one who tried the hardest.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:05:56 No.42172318 Report

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>>42172232
>W-WE’RE NOT THE COINFLIP META, Y-YOU ARE!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:08:10 No.42172330 Report

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>>42172301
He didn't have haze you brainlets. Why you think he was a lead?
>scald
>toxic spikes (cause lead)
>recover
>baneful

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:08:11 No.42172331 Report

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>>42165206
so vgc 2014, the first year with megas, was amazing and people complain about megas? kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:12:29 No.42172355 Report

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>>42172330
>dedicated leads in nearly 2020
>dedicated leads on defensive teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:12:56 No.42172359 Report

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>>42172290
Everything can be predicted on pokemon cause there is so few options.
Probability and opponent reading is what determines what better option you should do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:14:41 No.42172367 Report

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>>42172355
>>dedicated leads in nearly 2020
Your not in the higher end of elo, aren't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:17:56 No.42172389 Report

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>>42172330

Kek. I always appreciate these posts because they give you an insight into what goes on inside the head of the average low ladder player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:19:02 No.42172395 Report

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>>42172389
I'm the one who played and won the match, kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:20:11 No.42172406 Report

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>>42172367
They only appear on HO, and that clearly isn't an HO team

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:21:43 No.42172415 Report

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>>42172395
Really, that says a lot holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:21:59 No.42172417 Report

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wouldn't VCGtranny imply that someone transitioned into a meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:23:25 No.42172422 Report

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>>42172415
That you're a brainlet who should know his place?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:23:54 No.42172424 Report

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>>42170253
>muh boi P2 in top 8
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:25:10 No.42172431 Report

Quoted By: >>42172472

>>42172422
No, it says a lot that someone with barely even a basic understanding of the game can reach a reasonably high rank by just putting top level threats together on a team and clicking buttons. You played fine but to act like that was even a contest in the first place would be a lie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:32:08 No.42172467 Report

Quoted By: >>42173490

>>42172424
>PZ will never have z-conversion tier shit to make it remotely viable again while eviolite duck hogs all the spotlight
why even live anons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:32:34 No.42172472 Report

Quoted By: >>42172549

>>42172431
I got top5 at least once in every game since XY. Everyone of my moves were calculated in that fight. Your only argument is that I should have predicted tha hippodown switch, which is a risky choice that wasn't worth it.
My only goal with darmanitan was to weaken Hippodown, in order to sweep the opponent with excadrill.
Tl-dr: know your place brainlet

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:36:50 No.42172496 Report

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>>42165242
No it's not
Here's what high elo games on Showdown really look like

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1032701336

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 10:47:18 No.42172549 Report

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>>42172472
I didn't say anything about Hippowdon idiota

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 11:01:15 No.42172617 Report

Quoted By: >>42173275 >>42173516

>>42165206
>Scrafty, Magmar, Pachirisu
explain this one, niggers!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:07:28 No.42173275 Report

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>>42172617
>people actually felt like experimenting with pokemon beyond the two dozen or so species seen on basically every team
IMAGINE MY SHOCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:15:55 No.42173347 Report

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Sejun park shows that there are viable picks outside of what's popular, most people are just too lazy to come up with functioning antimeta strategies

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:35:33 No.42173490 Report

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>>42172467
>Bred a shiny porygon cuz I loved Z conversion so much
>Z moves scrapped
>"Even without Z moves it can run choiced or something r-right?"
>mon gets culled
Didn't even get a chance to regret evolving it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:39:13 No.42173516 Report

Quoted By: >>42173542 >>42173561 >>42173780 >>42174676

>>42172617
That magmar was the suposed reason for regional markings, GF didn't want meta relevant picks to be locked behind old games gay ass decision

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:43:41 No.42173542 Report

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>>42173516
To be fair it also applies to tutor only moves from previous games, like conk didnt have elemental punches in early xy iirc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 13:45:24 No.42173561 Report

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>>42173516
And lvl 1 Smeargles/ lvl 49 Amoonguss shenanigans is the reason behind flat lvl 50 now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 14:15:04 No.42173743 Report

Quoted By: >>42174047 >>42174192

>>42173561
>lvl 1 Smeargles/ lvl 49 Amoonguss
Whats the advantage here? Fear strats or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 14:22:47 No.42173780 Report

Quoted By: >>42174007 >>42174594

>>42173516
Wasn’t there also some garbage where the Magmar had outright hacked IVs that would never actually happen in its home game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 14:56:22 No.42174007 Report

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>>42173780
Could be, the available IV spreads in GC games are trash, but I clearly remember the trainer was female (Michael is always male)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:02:33 No.42174047 Report

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>>42173743
49 Amoonguss underspeeds 50 Amoonguss and spores first. A lvl 1 Smeargle won some event (regionals, nationals, cant remember) undefeated. Sash/ fake out/ endeavor/ priority/ etc. If player picked right partner for smeargle the matchup was nigh unlosable

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:13:11 No.42174116 Report

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>>42172496
fuck man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:18:00 No.42174149 Report

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>>42165206
why doesnt the vgc council give out bans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:21:08 No.42174173 Report

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>>42165206
The chad with the Pachirisu and top 1
Good shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:21:19 No.42174176 Report

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>>42172496
Smogon Pokemon is so fucking autistic my god

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:23:05 No.42174192 Report

Quoted By: >>42174202

>>42173743
Trick Room. People also ran level 49 Groudon just to use Precipice Blades first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:24:14 No.42174202 Report

Quoted By: >>42174237

>>42174192
>He didn’t run level 48 Groudon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:27:31 No.42174230 Report

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>>42172330
>bunker AND spikes
i dun geddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:28:24 No.42174237 Report

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>>42174202
>Not running level 47 like a pleb
I swear /vp/ houses the most shit players

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:32:09 No.42174273 Report

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>>42165206
>smogoncuck
opinion discarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 15:43:22 No.42174373 Report

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>>42172496
Holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:05:01 No.42174590 Report

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>>42174047
Lvl 1 mons were popular only in very old metas grandpa. Too much counter play nowadays

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:05:18 No.42174594 Report

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>>42173780
Yes, because it's from XD for Follow Me, but you can't get perfect spreads like that in the Gamecube games

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:11:04 No.42174646 Report

Quoted By: >>42174787 >>42175393 >>42176141

>>42174047
What meta was this? I would've thought all the T-tar use would've cucked the viability of it
But that's cool, sounds like the Obi Mode strat for JAA (the original "VGC" format from Gen 3). Mewtwo uses Selfdestruct, your Smeargle uses Endure + Salac Berry, switch in Jynx for Fake Out while Smeargle Spores the other, then Smeargle Endeavors while Jynx finishes off the mon that's not asleep. It was ruthless

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:11:19 No.42174650 Report

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>>42165206
We're in a '14 season right now and it's great.

And considering how Lando-T and Cressalia aren't in the code...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:13:09 No.42174676 Report

Quoted By: >>42174690 >>42174702

>>42173516
>Don't have to get decade old game to be meta.

I see no problem here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:15:30 No.42174690 Report

Quoted By: >>42174760

>>42174676
What they should've done is update movepools to include moves from Gen 3/4 events/tutors and stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:16:32 No.42174702 Report

Quoted By: >>42174736

>>42174676
>Have to raise the exact same mon or rebuild your entire team/substitutes every gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:19:54 No.42174736 Report

Quoted By: >>42174880

>>42174702
If you're using the same team every gen you're not gonna actually get anywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:22:36 No.42174760 Report

Quoted By: >>42174835

>>42174690
They have.

For example, Mantine used to only be able to learn tailwind via move tutor. It was added to its movepool as an egg move in gen 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:25:06 No.42174787 Report

Quoted By: >>42175393 >>42176141

>>42174646
IV gen, cant remember the year but I know the matches are on youtube. Smeargle doing Smeargle things is a VGC staple, but back then people experimented more

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:28:42 No.42174835 Report

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>>42174760
Still many moves are missing. Helping hand is finally a tm but follow me and the other XD moves need the same treatment

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 16:32:56 No.42174880 Report

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>>42174736
The mons are just the puzzle pieces, small adaptations and diff partners make drastically new teams. Why is GF making me rebreed the same stuff a good idea?i dont care i inject anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 17:24:40 No.42175393 Report

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>>42174646
>>42174787
Iol I still remember people shitting on Smeargle sets in some old boards. Heres the story from 2009
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/double-battle-for-seattle-vgc-warstory.54768/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 17:39:17 No.42175543 Report

Quoted By: >>42176023

>>42173490
I like sash agility 3 attacks. It is a good sweeper and has synergy with psychic terrain users. A little niche and ballsey but with decent team construction it can support well. Double dance, agility/nasty plat has a niche too, but I prefer coverage. And I wouldn't run nasty plot alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 18:24:16 No.42176023 Report

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>>42175543
It was meant as a doubles set, with redirection, fake out, etc. Fun but not too competitive, used it mostly in battle tree. Here's hoping we get a decent battle tower clone this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2019 18:35:01 No.42176141 Report

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>>42174646
>>42174787
https://youtu.be/EhQ5AC-HSSc

Also OP, VGC20 meta is unironically very diverse right now, quit bitching.

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