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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 18:05:36 No.42189735 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42189901 >>42190755 >>42190843 >>42190851 >>42190900 >>42191018 >>42191557 >>42192731

The Pokemon series began to descend in quality during the 3DS era.

This was also when Pokemon started doing worldwide releases as opposed to the Regional releases from Gen I to V.

Is this a mere coincidence, or does global release over region-based release have anything to do with quality, directly or indirectly?

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 18:17:40 No.42189901 Report

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>>42189735
No

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:05:49 No.42190632 Report

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:12:55 No.42190755 Report

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>>42189735
>The Pokemon series began to descend in quality during the 3DS era.
That would be Gen 4 when they failed to make enough QoL improvements and quite essentially rehashed a whole generation

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:15:57 No.42190795 Report

Quoted By: >>42190812

They started changing the formula because gen 5 bombed hard. People make a lot of excuses for it but it only sold 15 million despite being on the best selling console ever and having the Pokemon brand. It was a big wake up call for gamefreak.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:16:44 No.42190812 Report

Quoted By: >>42190865 >>42192362

>>42190795
>released at the end of the DS's lifespan
>"only" 15 million

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:18:47 No.42190843 Report

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>>42189735
Pokémon was never good.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:19:24 No.42190851 Report

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>>42189735
>The Pokemon series began to descend in quality during the 3DS era

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:20:35 No.42190865 Report

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>>42190812
More lame excuses from the unovabortions

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:21:54 No.42190887 Report

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>>42190755
This. Gen 4 was when the decline really started, and then they started casualizing the games (by making Plat more linear, by not including the Battle Frontier in D/P and nerfing it in Plat, friendly rival ect). We still had things like Mt. Coronet, so it wasn't an immediate fall, but Masuda thought kids hated navigating the things so he gave us Unova (the real start of nu-pokemon as much as unovaborts like to deny it).

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:22:36 No.42190893 Report

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>>42190851
okay then, what's your favorite pokemon game? what's your least favorite pokemon game?

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:23:14 No.42190900 Report

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>>42189735
The decent happened before, and honestly, X/Y could have been improved if they didn't hold hack or if they released the third version to fix it. Everything after that was pretty much the point where they started throwing shit at the fan.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:23:40 No.42190912 Report

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>>42190887
How the fuck was Platinum more linear and how was the Battle Frontier nerfed?

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:26:04 No.42190944 Report

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>>42190843
Basically. /vp/ doesn't realize this because they only focus on third version DLCs rather than what the games ACTUALLY look like

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:27:44 No.42190967 Report

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>>42190944
>third version DLCs rather than what the games ACTUALLY look like
what the fuck do you even mean by this?

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:27:55 No.42190969 Report

Quoted By: >>42191038 >>42191327 >>42191824

>>42190900
The majority of people don't buy third versions. They just buy the base versions and skip the third rereleases.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:28:38 No.42190980 Report

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>>42190912
Plat's Battle Frontier only had five facilities, a downgrade from Emerald. The physical/special split and access to online also made it more casualized. Plat's linearity wasn't that offensive (compared to the newer games) but it made you fight Fantina once you got to Hearthome City instead of after Wake, which is bad level design as the route below it becomes completely optional (much like how the Granite Cave dungeon in ORAS was made optional)

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:31:14 No.42191018 Report

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>>42189735
Gen 5 was the decline. Worst selling games from the most rabid fanbase (the unovabortions).

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:32:40 No.42191038 Report

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>>42190969
This. Why do so many people assume I've played Emerald / Platinum / BW2. I avoided those games because I already had RS/DP/BW.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:33:09 No.42191044 Report

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>>42191038
bw2 are actual sequels rather than overpriced remakes though

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:35:01 No.42191062 Report

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Of all the possible reasons why Pokemon has been on a downhill trend this is by far the worst one I've heard yet.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:35:38 No.42191071 Report

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>>42190980
>much like how the Granite Cave dungeon in ORAS was made optional
I wouldn't consider making the explorable part of granite cave optional a bad thing. Sure, the required path became more simplistic, but the cave still has exploration if you wanted to check it out on your own time. Although I hate the fact that Mawile/Sableye aren't obtainable as early in ORAS as they are in RS. imo new mauville got gutted worse because unlike granite cave which still kept the exploration new mauville just became and empty room and didn't have an optional maze to explore like granite cave did

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:54:21 No.42191327 Report

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>>42190969
That's why I also said "if they didn't hold back". It's just that the third versions also usually have the fixes the first games should have already come with.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 19:55:47 No.42191354 Report

Quoted By: >>42192340

Gen 4 or 5 were when the decline really started, Gen 3 was pretty bad too

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 20:10:26 No.42191534 Report

Quoted By: >>42191820 >>42191945 >>42192275

>>42190967
/vp/ always ignores first versions and cries about them being "empty". Meanwhile they worship third versions and late gen remakes. This is part of the reason why their view of pokemon is so skewed compared with normies

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 20:11:44 No.42191557 Report

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>>42189735
Pokémon XY are the first games with the highest god level create 3D world, the developers of the game and those understand the efforts and elaboration of 3D, know. Similar like 1st games 2D development.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 20:31:05 No.42191820 Report

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>>42191534
Thats pretty on-point actually. There's a reason why most normies (the non-cucked ones) have seen Pokemon as a cheap cashgrab for years while /vp/oreons go "MUH EMERALD" and "MUH PLATINUM". Now without the third versions to harvest your shekels with you autists can finally see what Pokemon really is

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 20:31:29 No.42191824 Report

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>>42190969
About half do. Good return on such a small investment.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 20:41:57 No.42191945 Report

Quoted By: >>42192018

>>42191534
>play the good ones
>skip the shit ones
What's wrong with this

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 20:47:22 No.42192018 Report

Quoted By: >>42192160 >>42193093

>>42191945
>60% of the Pokemon games "shit"
Let me break it down: If you can't enjoy a first version or think it's a waste of money, you aren't an actual Pokemon fan (which is 100% okay).

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 20:57:22 No.42192160 Report

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>>42192018
it's objectively a waste of money to buy the base version when the upgraded version is strictly better.
stop it with the True Fan bullshit. i don't call myself a pokémon fan but if someone buys and enjoys pokémon games what the fuck else are they? does a star wars fan need to love 1, 2, 3, 8 and 9? does a marvel fan need to love all the shit new movies?
if you actually care about a series, you have to vote with your wallet by avoiding the bad ones and only buying the best. otherwise the developers learn that they don't need to put effort in to gain success.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 21:05:44 No.42192275 Report

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>>42191534
Because the third versions are the only good games.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 21:09:42 No.42192340 Report

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>>42191354
Gen 3 felt like the franchise was “rebooting” itself. It was disconnected from GSC compared how GSC was designed as a dedicated sequel to RBY

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 21:10:38 No.42192362 Report

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>>42190812
>He thinks 10% attach rate is good

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 21:37:08 No.42192731 Report

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>>42189735
No

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:06:24 No.42193074 Report

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>>42190944
This is what a bw2 fan sounds like. Good. Bw2 are the best games in the series. X and Y were good, but not much people were happy with the hoen remakes, mainly because its the same game.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:07:51 No.42193093 Report

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>>42192018
If you wanna save money just wait until pokemon company releases sequels, however theyre planning something different with the new games idk.

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