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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 21:59:15 No.42192988 View View Reply Original Report

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Gen 1: Canon.
Gen 2: Canon.
Gen 3: Canon.
Gen 4: Canon.
Gen 5: Canon.
Gen 6: Canon, aside from ORAS which is non-canon because of alternate universe bullshit.
Gen 7: Canon, aside from USUM and LGPE which are non-canon because of alternate universe bullshit.
Gen 8: Dex is arguably canon, games are not as 60% of the Pokemon don't exist in the SSh universe so can't possibly take place in the canon universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:00:14 No.42193001 Report

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>>42192988
>alternate universes are not canon
Comics would like to say hello

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:01:52 No.42193018 Report

Quoted By: >>42193054 >>42195565

>>42192988
>thing isn't usable in the game so that means it doesn't exist in-universe

This is the most retarded post I've seen on /vp/ the past week. Congratulations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:02:05 No.42193024 Report

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>>42192988
This is true because even the show has zero elements from the game except for the pokemon and dynamax

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:02:32 No.42193031 Report

Quoted By: >>42193039

>>42192988
The Pokemon still exist, idiot. Otherwise, the new anime wouldn't have them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:03:17 No.42193039 Report

Quoted By: >>42193205

>>42193031
The anime is based on GO and is only forcing itself to use new Pokemon and Galar because new toy syndrome breeds marketability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:04:55 No.42193054 Report

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>>42193018
>thing isn't usable in the game so that means it doesn't exist in-universe
This is true. Pokemon has established in lore that you can bring any Pokemon to any region. Explain why I can't use Metang in SSh, the only logical conclusion is that it doesn't exist in SSh's universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:07:48 No.42193092 Report

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>>42193054
In lore, you still can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:07:58 No.42193098 Report

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Everything up until B/W2 is its own universe though Platinum lays the groundwork for the idea of other dimensions. Gen VI introduces a split universe where Megas have always existed, starting with Origins and getting expanded upon in oR/aS by the Delta Episode. S/M introduces the idea of people from the first universe displaced into the new one and Ultra Beasts invading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:08:58 No.42193110 Report

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>>42193054
Explain why i can't take a shit in any pokemon game, the only logical conclusion is that neither pokemons or trainers have a butthole and their guts will eventually burst for the accumulated feces

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:11:11 No.42193131 Report

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>>42193110
Whenever the screen goes black for a cutscene/battle/whatever, your trainer takes a shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:11:46 No.42193139 Report

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>>42193054
Source on the “You can bring any Pokémon to any region” claim?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:12:06 No.42193147 Report

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>>42193054
How does the Poliwag shirt exist then, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:12:15 No.42193149 Report

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>>42193110
Humans don't shit in the Pokemon universe. That's why nobody has a toilet in their house.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:13:18 No.42193161 Report

Quoted By: >>42193196 >>42193247

>>42193147
Poliwags are in the SSh universe but went extinct and can't be revived with fossil tech.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:15:19 No.42193196 Report

Quoted By: >>42193227

>>42193161
Or they just aren't native to Galar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:16:34 No.42193205 Report

Quoted By: >>42193267

>>42193039
The anime is based on Pokemon. Hence why the title is just Pokemon.

It's an ad for Pokemon as a whole now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:17:28 No.42193227 Report

Quoted By: >>42193254 >>42193265

>>42193196
Why can't I use a Poliwag? Because they don't exist in lore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:18:56 No.42193247 Report

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>>42193161
That's a real stretch and if you're going to headcanon at that extent it could just be that certain Pokémon aren't trainable in Galar due to League restrictions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:19:23 No.42193254 Report

Quoted By: >>42193292

>>42193227
Because it's not programmed into the game, idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:20:10 No.42193265 Report

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>>42193227
But they do exist in lore, or else there can't be a shirt with them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:20:31 No.42193267 Report

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>>42193205
And Pokemon as a whole (sans the "core" games) is focused on GO, because GO is the highest single source of income for the franchise.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:20:40 No.42193269 Report

Quoted By: >>42193447 >>42193457

>Gen 7: Canon, aside from USUM and LGPE which are non-canon because of alternate universe bullshit.
Sun and Moon also have the alternate universe bullshit dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:22:28 No.42193292 Report

Quoted By: >>42193330

>>42193247
That was just an explaination i could come up with. There might be many reasons why you can't use Poliwag in SSh, but the most logical conclusion is that they don't exist as certain moves are also unusable, suggesting those moves also don't exist and leading me to believe that SSh takes place outside of the canon universe.

>>42193254
Yeab because it doesn't exist in SSh's universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:23:08 No.42193306 Report

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>>42192988
All games after the Tajiri ones are non-canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:25:39 No.42193330 Report

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>>42193292
It does exist.

Dexit is not canon. Every Pokemon still exists in SwSh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:27:16 No.42193352 Report

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The fact that the Gen 8 anime features Pokemon that aren't in the games debunks this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:33:39 No.42193447 Report

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>>42193269
This. SM have Mega Stones => SM is not canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:33:54 No.42193450 Report

Quoted By: >>42196112

>>42193054
>HOLY FUCK BROS PLATINUM ISN'T CANON BECAUSE I CAN'T USE AVALUGG IN IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:34:36 No.42193457 Report

Quoted By: >>42193513

>>42193269
>Sun and Moon also have the alternate universe bullshit
So do Black and White

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:38:41 No.42193513 Report

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>>42193457
>So do Black and White
So does Gen 4.
So does Gen 3.
Gen 2 literally has Time Travel Bullshit.
Gen 1 requires you to synchronize with an alternate universe in order to trade with an alternate version of yourself to get the starters/fossils/Eeveelutions you didn't get as well as fauna you can't obtain in your native universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:39:13 No.42193520 Report

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Pokemon has had alternate universes since Gen 1.

>Game universe
>Anime universe
>Manga universe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jan 2020 22:42:47 No.42193581 Report

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>>42192988
Holy fuck, we already have the most retarded post of the decade! Someone screencap so that in nine and a half years I’ll still be proven right

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 01:07:14 No.42195565 Report

Quoted By: >>42195948

>>42193018
>vespiquen from Galar alone cannot use heal order
>vespiquen from other regions that do know heal order cannot use it and must forget the move when transferred
It's an alternate universe where certain things are different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 01:33:35 No.42195948 Report

Quoted By: >>42196597

>>42195565
Gameplay shit is not fucking canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 01:46:13 No.42196088 Report

Quoted By: >>42196154 >>42202009

>>42192988
>Gen 4: Canon
Nope. Arceus lore is in direct conflict of gen 1 lore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 01:48:59 No.42196112 Report

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>>42193450
Based. Only SS is the only canon game now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 01:51:01 No.42196154 Report

Quoted By: >>42196489

>>42196088
Mew being the ancestor of all Pokemon is only a theory. Arceus creating the universe is a fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 01:56:29 No.42196200 Report

Quoted By: >>42196252 >>42196285

>>42192988
There are actually three timelines
>Universe A
RBY>GSC
>Universe B (No Megas)
FRLG>HGSS>RSE>DPPt>BW1>BW2
>Universe C (Megas)
Let's Go>ORAS>XY>SM/USUM

Haven't played swish does it mention Megas? That would determine if B or C

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 01:59:07 No.42196233 Report

Quoted By: >>42201894

>t shirt has poliwag
>poliwag was deleted from the game
good work game freak

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 02:00:41 No.42196252 Report

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>>42196200
Clearly Sword and Shield are in Universe A also why the fuck not just combine A and B that's dumb keeping them separate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 02:03:27 No.42196285 Report

Quoted By: >>42196495 >>42196697

>>42196200
Remakes replace the originals in canon. RBY and GSC are no longer canon, FRLG and HGSS are. The same should apply to ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 02:22:30 No.42196489 Report

Quoted By: >>42196630

>>42196154
>it didn't make the universe, it just has the DNA of all pokemon
>the plot of the first region is all a theory
Sinnohfetuses naturally would be arrogant enough to put their region over Kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 02:23:05 No.42196495 Report

Quoted By: >>42196868

>>42196285
>Remakes replace the originals in canon.
But the story of the remakes aren't the same like the Sevii islands

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 02:34:05 No.42196597 Report

Quoted By: >>42196613

>>42195948
>mega evos and z moves cease to exist in SwSh lore
How is it not an alternate universe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 02:35:11 No.42196613 Report

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>>42196597
But they didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 02:36:15 No.42196630 Report

Quoted By: >>42197893

>>42196489
Mew has nothing to do with Kanto's "plot".

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 02:40:53 No.42196697 Report

Quoted By: >>42196852 >>42196939

>>42196285
>ORAS should replace RSE
The existance of mega evolution and fairy type in ORAS conflicts with XY's recent discovery of fairy and the rarity of megas stones and key stones, as ORAS would chronologically take place before XY by many years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 02:52:24 No.42196852 Report

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>>42196697
By that logic Universe C is wrong anyway, because it includes ORAS and XY together

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 02:53:29 No.42196868 Report

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>>42196495
Which is why they replace the originals, rather than them being interchangeable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 02:59:06 No.42196939 Report

Quoted By: >>42197331

>>42196697
This happens all the time. Eggs were a recent discovery in GSC, but breeding was included in FRLG, so that was retconned in HGSS.

Stuff that was "recently discovered" always gets retconned in remakes into having always been a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 03:16:17 No.42197148 Report

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Every game and manga takes place in their own timeline, it also happens that the events of game 1 [kanto, bw1] happened before in the timeline of the game 2 [johto, bw2]
For the anime while most stuff is about Ash timeline, Origins and Generations are clearly on their own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 03:18:32 No.42197171 Report

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>>42192988
The cut mons don't just stop existing. They just aren't in the Galar region.

For fucks sake, Poliwag is even on a t-shirt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 03:22:05 No.42197222 Report

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>>42193054
>autism.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 03:31:23 No.42197331 Report

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>>42196939
Seems like they forgot about the timeline of events when they reached ORAS, since they remembered that ORAS is supposed to be set before most games (all but FRLG which is concurrent), as the Lilycove museum has a model of the then unfinished Royal Unova, indicating it takes place before BW1, but Looker washes up with amnesia in Hoenn, despite having his memories and working with the international police in DPPt, BW1, XY, SM, and USUM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 04:22:34 No.42197893 Report

Quoted By: >>42199979

>>42196630
Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 08:03:00 No.42199979 Report

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>>42197893
Please explain how Mew not being a creator god (which it was never implied to be) changes any single aspect of Kanto's plot

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 13:44:26 No.42201894 Report

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>>42196233
Ima say based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 14:00:39 No.42201983 Report

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>>42192988
>which is non-canon because of alternate universe bullshit.
>IT ISN'T CANON BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT
Stopped reading there.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 14:01:49 No.42201992 Report

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>>42192988
>games are not as 60% of the Pokemon don't exist in the SSh universe
They literally exist, they just aren't available in the region retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jan 2020 14:04:47 No.42202009 Report

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>>42196088
>Arceus lore is in direct conflict of gen 1 lore.
In what fucking way retard? Even if Mew is the ancestor of all Pokemon, that already makes no sense seeing as shit like Groudon, Dialga, and Yveltal clearly predate Mew. Stuff like Deoxys also clearly does not descend from Mew. Mew is the ancestor of MOST Pokemon, but was created by Arceus to be as such. This is what all existing lore implies.

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