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>>42228913
Sleep is bonkers, even with a low BST shitmon.
Although, Vivillon is one of the best abusers in the game thanks to quiver dance and accurate hurricane

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 15:13:31 No.42228984 Report

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>>42228913
Notorious for Sleep Powder + QD with Hurricane under a Sub

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 15:30:56 No.42229107 Report

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>>42228913
>>42228983
>>42228984
Vivillon's Compound Eyes increases Sleep Powder's accuracy from 75% to 97.5%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 15:46:23 No.42229245 Report

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>>42228795
>KyuB decent
Got Dragon Dance, Body Press to hit Steel types, and reliable physical Ice STAB(Icicle Spear)

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 15:54:38 No.42229308 Report

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>>42228913
the power of no sleep clause

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 16:44:38 No.42229678 Report

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>>42228893
NatDex mechanics don't let you both Mega and Dynamax so it's just the same as always while something like Xerneas gets to Geomancy and Dynamax

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 16:47:55 No.42229720 Report

Quoted By: >>42232463

>Mega Blastoise gets any usage at all
>Ho-Oh in A+
Love it, even if NatDex AG isn’t a real format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 16:50:24 No.42229742 Report

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>Kyurem-B above Kyurem-W
Apologize

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 17:03:20 No.42229871 Report

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The absolute STATE of Zamazenta

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 17:21:07 No.42230014 Report

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>>42229871
It has the worst movepool in the franchise history.
Doesn't get Body Press even
Who thought this was okay?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 17:25:11 No.42230041 Report

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>>42230014
For a Fully Evolved Legendary at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 20:56:34 No.42232323 Report

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>Gen 5 introduces Icicle Crash, good physical Ice-type move
>Physical Ice-type legendary doesn't get it
>Gen 8 introduces a fighting-type move that does more damage the higher your defense is
>Defense based Fighting-type legendary doesn't get it
Hmmmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:05:25 No.42232424 Report

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>>42228795
Any reason to use Naganadel over Eternatus?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:06:48 No.42232447 Report

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>>42228795
Notice one of them actually is AG while the rest are in other tiers but have strategies. Xerneas, Zacian-C, Groudon-P, Ho-Oh, and Dusk Mane Necrozma would all be Natdex Uber if the format existed.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:07:19 No.42232461 Report

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>>42232323
Just Gamefreak Things~

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:07:23 No.42232463 Report

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>>42229720
Ho-oh was top tier ever since it got regenerator and mega blastoise is one of like 3 good megas in natdex OU, their placements aren't really surprising here

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:14:46 No.42232541 Report

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>>42232424
nasty plot and beast boost, then again, eternatus doesn't need that set up and gets DD

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:22:49 No.42232621 Report

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>>42229308
Why did they remove it?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:23:09 No.42232623 Report

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>>42232541
>Dragon Dance Eternatus
>85 base Attack
Why would you ever use it over Agility?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:25:12 No.42232650 Report

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NatDex AG is so dead & deprived of good players Showderp actually had a player go as far as Top 50 in its ladder

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:27:47 No.42232679 Report

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>>42232621
AG let's you play the the game with none of the Smogon clauses so you can use sleep, evasion, OHKO moves.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:31:22 No.42232708 Report

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>Mega Blastoise
Did Shell Smash help that much?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:32:40 No.42232723 Report

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>>42232708
Yes

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:35:41 No.42232757 Report

Quoted By: >>42232783

so what things can and cant dynamax in anything goes national dex?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:37:39 No.42232783 Report

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>>42232757
Zacian, Zamazenta, Eternatus, anything holding a Mega Stone, and anything holding a Z Crystal. Not sure how they handled Mega Fug. It might be broken.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:42:36 No.42232832 Report

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>>42228795
What kind of janky shitmons do you use in your AG teams, anons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:44:13 No.42232848 Report

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>>42232621
it's anything goes, nothing's banned except funbro

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:47:28 No.42232873 Report

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>>42228795
I love how fucking Vivillion gets to hang with shit like Arceus forms and Primal Kyogre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:49:16 No.42232893 Report

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>>42232424
It gets Nasty Plot.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:49:32 No.42232895 Report

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>>42228795
>fugfags honestly thought their dragon would be better than Zacian

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:50:05 No.42232902 Report

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>>42232832
based bartlebyposter

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 21:57:49 No.42232981 Report

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>>42228795
Where's Zamazenta?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 22:02:39 No.42233022 Report

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>>42232981
In the trash where it belongs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 22:08:05 No.42233083 Report

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>>42232783
>Not sure how they handled Mega Fug
Rayquaza can't Dynamax if it holds a Z-Move or wants to Mega Evolve. This was justified with prior precedence, as Gen 7 games won't let Rayquaza Mega Evolve AND hold a Z-Crystal.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 22:09:50 No.42233103 Report

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>>42228795
What happened to Klefki? It was a staple in gen 6. What changed since then?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 22:15:46 No.42233163 Report

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>>42233103
confusion nerfed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 22:16:39 No.42233173 Report

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>>42232981
With Zacian, Lugia, and Giratina, there is no point into using it.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 22:30:09 No.42233294 Report

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>>42232783
>Not sure how they handled Mega Fug
Obvious hint: They're fucking FAIRIES and outspeed it 95% of all cases

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