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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 20:29:05 No.42231997 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42234432 >>42237336 >>42238043

>Eevee and it's evolutions will always take up slots in pokemon games leaving well deserved pokemon to have to wait

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 20:29:50 No.42232007 Report

Quoted By: >>42232064 >>42232087 >>42235497

>wouldn't be a problem if GF weren't shit and could actually include everything

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Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 20:33:54 No.42232064 Report

Quoted By: >>42234203

>>42232007
If only there was a way to go back in time and tell everyone to not shit on BW and XY changing our timeline for the better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 20:36:03 No.42232087 Report

Quoted By: >>42232110 >>42232115 >>42233700 >>42233723

>>42232007
GF can. They did this solely because it's what Nintendo wanted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 20:38:27 No.42232110 Report

Quoted By: >>42233666

>>42232087
>GF can.
But why would they?
It's not like it'll drastically increase sales to a point to warrant that kind of effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 20:38:41 No.42232115 Report

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>>42232087
Wasn't it said that SWSH took two years to make?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 23:10:20 No.42233666 Report

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>>42232110
Still though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 23:14:41 No.42233700 Report

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>>42232087
>They did this solely because it's what Nintendo wanted.
Nintendo only controls what platforms they release on; they can't actually tell GameFreak what to do. They only did what Iwata suggested because they respected the man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 23:17:27 No.42233723 Report

Quoted By: >>42233821

>>42232087

That’s a blatant lie. They ran out of time and made up a bs excuse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 23:24:57 No.42233821 Report

Quoted By: >>42233837 >>42234277

>>42233723
They ran out of time because they dedicated 60% of their resources to Little Town Hero because apparently, they didn't think their cut of the Pokemon franchise was sufficient.
And everyone will buy it anyway, ha ha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 23:26:33 No.42233837 Report

Quoted By: >>42233958

>>42233821

And yet LTH gets universally shit reviews and 0 sales. Ninty had so little confidence in it that they didn’t even give it a physical release. GF are prisoners to Pokémon forever whether they like it or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 23:36:05 No.42233958 Report

Quoted By: >>42234184 >>42236836

>>42233837
I didn't say it was a smart move, I only said it was the move they made.
LTH was a gigantic "fuck you" to TPC and Nintendo. Denying them a physical release was Nintendo saying "fuck you" right back to them.
Trapping GF in the Pokemon franchise is a way of ensuring that if the franchise dies, GF dies with it. Hopefully, GF gets the message and puts more than the minimum contractually required effort into gen 9.
If we're lucky, Gen 8 gets remembered as the "RE6 of the Pokemon franchise".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 23:55:15 No.42234184 Report

Quoted By: >>42234241

>>42233958

You might be right. Nintendo did exactly 0 marketing for LTH, too. I haven’t played it so I cannot assess its quality myself, but you’d think Nintendo would try to promote it more due to their relationship with GF. Either they knew it would tank Day 1, or they intentionally sabotaged it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 23:56:39 No.42234203 Report

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>>42232064
>BW
Wut?
>XY
The pinnacle of /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Jan 2020 23:59:16 No.42234241 Report

Quoted By: >>42234296

>>42234184
Actualy LTH's director said the game was published and funded 100% by them, they wanted to try to test publishing on their own. Nintendo did 0 marketing for it because Gamefreak quite literally didn't let them do it, by publishing it themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:01:21 No.42234277 Report

Quoted By: >>42234330

>>42233821
>game developers forced into the same IP for DECADES
>want to try and do something different since they’re swimming in money
>it failed

No matter how you spin it, it really just comes down to a game company wanting to work on something different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:02:36 No.42234296 Report

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>>42234241

*looks up* Damn. First Giga Wrecker and Tembo are specifically NOT released on Nintendo consoles, now GF wants to publish games themselves without any help from Nintendo. They honestly don’t have the experience or the resources to publish independently but they did it anyway. Seems the rumors of bad blood between Nintendo/GF are probably true then.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:03:07 No.42234306 Report

Quoted By: >>42235247

>Eevee and it's evolutions will always take up threads on /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:04:39 No.42234330 Report

Quoted By: >>42234366

>>42234277

They’re doing fine financially, but I wouldn’t say swimming in cash. 90% of Pokémon’s profit comes from merch, TCG, and non-GF games, and they only see 1/3 of that revenue at most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:06:57 No.42234366 Report

Quoted By: >>42234402 >>42235345

>>42234330
Fair point but regardless, as a game developer’s perspective can you really blame them for wanting to work on a new project instead of..! More Pokémon..
I know I would be itching for something else 20+ years later

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:10:08 No.42234402 Report

Quoted By: >>42234645 >>42234664

>>42234366

Not at all. But they refuse to hire more staff to do it, above the objections of their lead developers who are literally begging for more employees to handle the workload.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:12:31 No.42234432 Report

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>>42231997

>Charizard is going to get a new form every fucking game to make boomers happy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:26:00 No.42234645 Report

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>>42234402
I’m not asking to be spoon fed but when did this news come out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:26:45 No.42234664 Report

Quoted By: >>42234791

>>42234402
More staff means more people to pay and a more complicated development process because there's more people to factor in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:30:04 No.42234715 Report

Quoted By: >>42235322

>>42234645

It was never widely reported but there was an interview a year or two back with a female programmer who said as much. Then someone with inside info who wished to remain anonymous corroborated and gave more details

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:35:07 No.42234791 Report

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>>42234664
This is only true if the more people hired are people who’s sole job is approval / “quality control”
Having people do a set part to work on won’t hinder it.
Having people approve it and then have someone else approve that and approve another part then it can be finalized for approval? Yeah.. that’s a real issue in any business or organization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 00:45:29 No.42234922 Report

Quoted By: >>42236634

I'm not sure which is worse- Eevee and its evos taking up nine slots, or the fact that there are FOUR Water/Ground families in the SwSh dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 01:11:44 No.42235247 Report

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>>42234306
Got a problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 01:19:41 No.42235322 Report

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>>42234715
That interview was from Creatures I believe. Which would then line up with their supposed leave from everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 01:21:43 No.42235345 Report

Quoted By: >>42235420

>>42234366
Then they should just licence out some spinoffs to tide people over so they can take their time on more projects

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 01:29:12 No.42235420 Report

Quoted By: >>42235470 >>42235506

>>42235345
Why do you think spinoffs have pretty much died off? Because it distracted fans and normies from the mainline games. TPCi doesn't want someone to make a better game than them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 01:33:43 No.42235470 Report

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>>42235420
Yeah, but if the main game releases are less frequent anyway, then it works out. Plus, you can have spinoffs tie into the main games more by including more cross content and transferable things. Like the Manaphy egg in Ranger, but to a further degree. If they make a new Ranger game, have them include more event missions that let players transfer over eggs of rare species with high IVs or a garunteed shiny chance or rare moves and held items. They already give those out for free with events, so why not tie it to something that can earn them even more money? They'll also look less incompetent by comparison thanks to being able to spend more time on the mainline games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 01:35:52 No.42235497 Report

Quoted By: >>42235519 >>42235530 >>42237048 >>42237390

>>42232007
>NOOO WHY DON'T THEY INCLUDE ALL OF THE INFINITELY GROWING ROSTER EVERY GAME

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 01:36:40 No.42235506 Report

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>>42235420
>pokemon mystery dungeon never more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9odzlxOpP0

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 01:37:42 No.42235519 Report

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>>42235497
Maybe they should stop adding 100 mons every game along with including new animation-heavy gimmicks if they can't handle copypasting 3D models

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 01:38:45 No.42235530 Report

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>>42235497
Because they're lazy greedy pieces of shit and yes I know that was rhetorical and not even a question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 03:18:33 No.42236634 Report

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>>42234922
All the Mono-Fighting Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 03:36:34 No.42236836 Report

Quoted By: >>42237279

>>42233958
GF has been making other games since forever, even for non-Nintendo consoles. Why would that now be a "fuck you" to Nintendo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 03:51:27 No.42237048 Report

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>>42235497
You know what would solve this?
A Pokemon MMO with major Updates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 04:11:13 No.42237279 Report

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>>42236836
The last thing they did not pokemon other than LTH is a 60MB jockey game in early 3DS. Then it's all shit until Drill Dozer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 04:17:44 No.42237336 Report

Quoted By: >>42237407

>>42231997
If they ever introduce new eeveelutions, do you think they will cut out older ones so the family doesn’t take up over 10 spots in the Pokédex? I mean the moss and ice rocks have been moot since their debut, what if they decide that maybe Leafeon and Glaceon can afford to seat out to make room for the new Eevees?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 04:23:21 No.42237390 Report

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>>42235497
Shut the fuck up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 04:25:42 No.42237407 Report

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>>42237336
Eevee and friends are cash cows even one is removed people will riot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2020 05:23:20 No.42238043 Report

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>>42231997
There are no "slots". The amount of Pokémon they include is as arbitrary as the Pokémon themselves.

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