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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 10:41:23 No.42252563 View View Reply Original Report

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>This is still the best designed set of starters

How couldn't they overcome it in eight (8) generation? I can see why Chadrizard still gets shilled so much.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 10:49:17 No.42252594 Report

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>>42252563
(mostly DS) zoomers will think you're baiting but the Kanto starters are legitimately the coolest and strongest of any set after, Hoenn comes close but Blaziken ruins it

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 10:54:57 No.42252626 Report

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>>42252563
Gen 3 starters are best

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 10:55:50 No.42252632 Report

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>>42252563
I dunno, I think Blastoise looks kinda dumb. Nostalgia goggles make it hard to disagree, though.

Then again my first game was yellow (My mom was kinda against me playing games cause they were a 'boy thing' until my cousins, including the female one, started playing it. She probably got yellow cause she recognized pikachu) so honestly for me, pikachu as a starter (or honestly any "odd starter" is the best to me. I got let's go eevee when those games came out.

I think diamond/pearl has really good designs personally, it was the last time I got excited about more than one starter. Now I usually just have one clear favourite out of the three (usually the grass type but not always)

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 10:58:39 No.42252646 Report

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>>42252594
Blaziken is pure trash and people only think they like him because he's the Fire starter. Delphox doesn't get the Fire preference cause it's slightly feminine.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 10:59:19 No.42252649 Report

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Because they spent 6 years on developing the characters, which no other generation has had the luxury of doing. Those starter designs were revised and revised like a hundred times, they’ve said so in interviews. I cannot imagine that any other gen had as much resources poured into their starters as Kanto’s.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 10:59:58 No.42252652 Report

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>>42252563
i like 3 and 4 more
Charizards kinda meh now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:00:12 No.42252654 Report

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>>42252563
Gen 2 is the best designed set. Only zoomers who want to be contrarian or bitch about "muh stats" hate them.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:00:41 No.42252659 Report

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>>42252563
OK Boomer

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:01:44 No.42252664 Report

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>>42252632
>Female
>Favorite starter is Pikachu (ugh)
>Thinks that makes her an oddball (ughhhh)
>Despite of that she betrayed her bro and got Let's GO Eevee (ughhhhhhhh)
Like poetry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:03:20 No.42252671 Report

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>>42252654
Fuck no, the only good pokemon out of the 9 possible Gen2 starters is Bayleef. The rest range from offensive to forgettable. Worst set of starters even by modern standards.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:06:32 No.42252687 Report

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>>42252671
Here I was about to argue the weakest one was pear-butt and Meg. Meg could be improved simply by giving it a longer tail. Still a neat design. Feraligator and Tylphosion are fucking great.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:08:48 No.42252692 Report

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>>42252687

Meganium is perfect as-is. Always liked it. It’s just been unpopular from Day 1 because both competitively and in-game, it’s absolute dogshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:12:19 No.42252703 Report

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>>42252687
I guess I have no objective reasons to claim they're bad, I just don't like any of the base starters nor their final evolutions.
The only time I got close to liking Typlosion was when I had one in Pokemon GO with Shadow Claws and Solar Beam, and I would always use to fuck up my friends at PVP. We didn't play PoGO for too long tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:15:07 No.42252718 Report

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Kanto starters are unique in that the final forms were designed first, with the base and second forms designed later on, modeled after the final form. Every gen since then has reversed that.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:15:54 No.42252723 Report

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Don't mind us, just the best starters comin' through

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:17:53 No.42252730 Report

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>>42252563
Gen 1, 3 and 4 have the best starters, I love all of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:20:52 No.42252749 Report

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>>42252718
>with the base and second forms designed later on, modeled after the final form
Except Blastoise was originally entirely standalone, and replaced Squirtle/Wartortle's evolution last minute

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:21:56 No.42252754 Report

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I think Gen 1, 3 and 4 has had the solid overall designs of all 8 gens. 2 has the issue of Meganium looking a bit bizarre while its pre evols and it's compatriots are peetty great all around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:22:37 No.42252758 Report

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>>42252749
Biggest tragedy. I've always loved Wartortle but hated Blastoise, and now I understand why.
Do you have pictures of the original Wartortle evolution?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:22:59 No.42252760 Report

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>>42252687
Feraligatr is the only good one Typhlosion is dogshit.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:26:00 No.42252782 Report

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>>42252758
It’s mostly speculative since we just have the back sprite to work off of. It would have kept Wartorle’s extravagent fins though.

Meanwhile Blastoise would have had a different pre evolution instead. They likely looked at the two lines and felt it was redundant so merged them together

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:28:24 No.42252793 Report

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>>42252632
H-hi, I like Pokemon too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:31:40 No.42252807 Report

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>>42252782
just make it bigger, add the canon and it's a masterpiece

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:36:07 No.42252836 Report

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>>42252782

Surprised they didn’t keep both. GF loves their turtles. Squirtle, Wartortle, Blastoise, Turtwig, Grotle, Torterra, Torkoal, Turtonator, Tirtouga, Carracosta, Chewtle, Drednaw, even Shuckle and Avalugg. Not that I’m complaining, turtles are fucking awesome.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:55:29 No.42252940 Report

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>>42252563
To be fair the Kanto starter lines are really good.

1.Kanto. Awesome fire dragon, tank turtle, dinoforg plant

2.Hoenn. First and best fire fighting, cool grass reptile that always has straw in mouth. Water ground beast

3.Sinoh Son wou Kong, the world turtle and a water steel type

4.Johto. Fire mane and alligator are dope plant Dino didn't work this time

5.Kalos. Cool ninja line and sexy witch are pretty good other one is trash

6.Alola. Cool archer line is cool. Dumb wrestling is gay. Blob is kinda forgetable

7.Unova Mediocer samurai. Trash fighting pig and sexy snake get a yikes from me dog

8.Galar fuck off

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 11:58:53 No.42252958 Report

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you already have a thread
>>42249009
>>42249009
>>42249009

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 12:38:56 No.42253174 Report

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>>42252659
OK Zoomer

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 12:45:47 No.42253203 Report

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>>42252563
Gen 3 and Gen 1 are pretty equal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 12:46:56 No.42253209 Report

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>>42252782
See this is so much than arbitrarily sticking the canon loser to this line and make him stick like a sore dumb. Absolute waste

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 12:52:51 No.42253232 Report

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>>42252940
Swap Kalos and Johto and it’s perfect

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 13:42:29 No.42253513 Report

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>>42253232
That's fair

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 17:18:04 No.42255083 Report

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>>42252594
I am a DS zoomer but I agree with OP 110% because I know what objective quality is. And Venusaur is the best.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 17:28:57 No.42255195 Report

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>>42252563
i have never liked venasaur even though bulbasaur is my favorite starter
>charmander gets wings
>squirtle turns into a tank
>bulbasaur gets old
is fucking boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 17:38:23 No.42255303 Report

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I'd say Hoenn has the best designed starters. Kanto has an overall solid set and harder hitting designs but Blastoise really brings the whole group own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 17:39:36 No.42255317 Report

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>>42255303
down*

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 17:41:51 No.42255330 Report

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>>42252563
Blastoise is a decent design and Venusaur a great one, but Shillizard sucks and prevents it from being the best

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 18:05:13 No.42255570 Report

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>>42255195
Since Bulbasaur and Squirtle can already learn Solarbeam and Hydro Pump, Charmander just growing wings(and getting another STAB) unironically makes it the most significant evolution-wise.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 18:17:43 No.42255681 Report

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>>42252563
What?
These guys aren't even that good.
Gen IV had much better starters.
So did Gen VI. and Gen VII.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 18:26:04 No.42255775 Report

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>>42252687

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 18:33:10 No.42255861 Report

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>>42252563
Because they're monsters instead of pets

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