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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:32:16 No.42256423 View View Reply Original Report

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So, we can all agree that this is not only the most shallow and most divisive generation but also the worst generation of all time and the worst way to kick off the first (non-remake) home console mainline games by gamefreak?

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:33:36 No.42256433 Report

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>>42256423
I want to say XY is shallow garbage but even its postgame facility was more fleshed out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:35:21 No.42256457 Report

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>>42256423
Gen I is objectively the worst generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:35:42 No.42256460 Report

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>>42256423
DP was worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:36:34 No.42256473 Report

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>>42256433
Even it story is better

That's it, Gen 8 is still inferior in everypart of the game by another Gen
There nothing to save that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:36:53 No.42256479 Report

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>>42256457
its also two decades old and runs on a calculator
gen 8 does not

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:36:56 No.42256480 Report

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>>42256423
>but also the worst generation of all time
Nah that's 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:37:35 No.42256489 Report

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>>42256423
False. Gens 3,6, and 7 are all worse than 8. There are a crazy amount of fags on here who hate it for incredibly shallow reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:37:56 No.42256490 Report

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>>42256423
Most shallow, no. Most divisive, for sure. I wouldn't say it's worst gen of all time- that implies that they won't somehow find a way to make something worse. But it definitely wasn't putting their best foot forward for the switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:38:49 No.42256499 Report

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Still mad huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:38:58 No.42256501 Report

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>>42256489
>7
USUM is kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:40:57 No.42256518 Report

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>>42256489
shallow reasons like none functioning online, the mass cutting of creatures and content and costing the most of any mainline game?
what the fuck is a proper reason for not liking a game then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:40:58 No.42256520 Report

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>>42256423
RS, DP were worse.
At least SwSh was playable.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:41:08 No.42256524 Report

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>>42256501
They hated him because he told the truth

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:42:16 No.42256537 Report

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>>42256489
Gen 3 and 7 are better. Gen 6 is a dumpster fire. I’d argue gen 1 and 2 are worse as well if only because they’re extremely barebones due to their release time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:43:31 No.42256546 Report

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>>42256501
Out of all of them 7 was the most easy/childish. It was the first game I didn’t even bother with the post game because i just wan’t having fun playing it. The region and a handful of pokemon were great but it seemed like everything else fell flat. It was such a misstep for the series I almost didn’t get sw/sh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:44:21 No.42256555 Report

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>>42256423
>/vp/
>agree
choose one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:45:24 No.42256568 Report

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oldfag that doesn't use /vp/ here. y'all kids can squirm and shriek over my post all you want idc

played yellow when it came out. played gold when it came out. stopped playing after being disappointed I couldn't go back to johto and kanto after finishing ruby, didn't play pokemon for a while after that. years later when I was like 25 or some shit I played platinum and white and xy or w/e these new games are called, emulated. they were alright but didn't really like where things were going after platinum and never played any of those that came after it through. especially one of the newer ones came out a year or two ago, I think it was sun/moon? all the tutorials and cutscenes and the way battles were, it was like wading through teletubbies molasses. felt like I was handling a plastic keychain or some shit

my brother got sword for christmas and played it on the TV, watched a few hours of it. was legitimately impressed by what it is. actually looks extremely fun, with customizable characters and at this point it's like pokemon stadium has been injected into the RPG series. also training pokemon as a team is great, no more gayass hundred hours of micromanagement individual pokemon training, it just isn't fun and it's what has killed replay value in pokemon for me. I'm at /vp/ rn because I'm investigating emulating sword/shield. you're all dumb zoomer faggots that think this is a bad game your games have been getting trash for a decade. the limited dex is sad but whatever, the design is good. this shit is what we were dreaming of back in '98-'01.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:46:04 No.42256573 Report

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>>42256423
>most shallow
It's honestly a toss up between Gen 6 and 8, but yes, 8 is probably worse.
>most divisive
Gen 3 and 5 were divisive too, but again, Gen 8 is easily worse.
>the worst way to kick off the first home console mainline games
Absolutely; this is a no-brainer, and I think that even people who like these games can agree with that.

>>42256501
Only if you didn't play the first versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:47:01 No.42256584 Report

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>>42256518
Does a pokemon game really need 800 pokemon? Having a limited pokemon pool is one of the reason ls I liked gen 5 so much. And yes I do think that is an incredibly shallow reason when gen 5 gets praised for it but gen 8 gets shit on for it

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:47:05 No.42256585 Report

Quoted By: >>42256607

>>42256489
At least 3 had a story, the main villain’s motives were stupid, but the story was present for most of the entire game.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:47:32 No.42256589 Report

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>>42256568
Speed read this LARP and your so full of shit, nice try though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:48:58 No.42256607 Report

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>>42256585
I dont play for the story. Anyone who thinks any of these games has a good story is delusional

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 19:59:06 No.42256720 Report

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>>42256423
watching all the names scroll by in the credits really baffled me. How did this many people work on a game that felt smaller than GSC?
should've let you hop on your meme bike and cross over to kalos

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:01:06 No.42256734 Report

Quoted By: >>42256892

>>42256457
>>42256479
The FRLG remakes had sevii islands. Better post-game that the abortion that is ShSh ShitShow

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:14:47 No.42256885 Report

Quoted By: >>42257058

So we can atleast agree that this was a weak way to start the console mainline games ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:15:21 No.42256892 Report

Quoted By: >>42257134

>>42256734
>Sevii Islands
>Post-game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:19:20 No.42256936 Report

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>>42256433
And it had an actual continuous story with building stakes, instead of just dumping it all at the end.
One of my main complaints in XY was how incomplete the setting details and lore felt, things like AZ just feeling like an aimless tease for something that never came. But Sword and Shield does that too, with Eternatus' whole existence and the box legendaries only real lore being that they fought Eternatus before, and for some reason conveniently had powers that countered it for no stated reason.
XY used to be my least favorite, but objectively speaking SWSH fails in a lot of ways even XY didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:20:16 No.42256945 Report

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>>42256584
>Does a pokemon game really need 800 pokemon?

Yes. What kind of retard wants less creatures in a game where one of the main draws is about collecting said creatures?

>And yes I do think that is an incredibly shallow reason when gen 5 gets praised for it but gen 8 gets shit on for it

Except all of the Pokemon were still programmed in B/W. You really don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:25:07 No.42257004 Report

Quoted By: >>42257020 >>42257300

>>42256945
>seething dex fag
Wait are you just mad at this game because you can’t carry over your pokemon? That’s pretty shallow anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:26:38 No.42257020 Report

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>>42257004
Anything to add besides being a faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:28:24 No.42257048 Report

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>>42257020
No I’m actually curious. Is the only reason you don't like this game the fact that you can’t transfer your pokemon from other games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:29:29 No.42257058 Report

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>>42256885
yeah. I was expecting better animations with the gimped pokemon selection.
this shit doesn't look much better than pokemon colleseum. especially when an attack just has no visual effect against a gmaxed pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:36:23 No.42257134 Report

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>>42256892
It forces you to visit there during the story, yes, but most of it is post-game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:36:23 No.42257135 Report

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>>42257048
That's a part of it for collectors of the series who like to battle with alot of different pokemon, they like that the variety is seemingly limitless. However, it's not only that, the lacking single player Post Game is a glaring issue along with how shallow the games content is anyway (as it had been for the whole 3D era). We were expecting something of substance more so than the 3DS games, And rightfully so given the upgrade to new hardware. But again, we were let down. Ill give it that it does online well, making the wild area seem alive with other players, but when the online shuts down for this game (or you don't play online at all) then it becomes even more shallow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:38:04 No.42257155 Report

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>>42256423
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:41:54 No.42257200 Report

Quoted By: >>42257218 >>42257228

>>42257134
>is introduced during the game (actually forced to detour and do its shitty questline before continuing the regular game)
>"nuuuuu it poast gaem"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:43:42 No.42257218 Report

Quoted By: >>42257235 >>42257241

>>42257200
Do you have anything substantial to add beyond greentext strawmen? Part of it is during the regular story, part of it is after the E4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:44:21 No.42257228 Report

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>>42257200
Not the person you were originally trying to (falsely) correct.
Please don't be so disingenuous. There are other ways to make your point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:44:58 No.42257235 Report

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>>42257218
>most of it is after the E4
FTFY

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:45:01 No.42257239 Report

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>>42256518
>like none functioning online
The online functions fine.

>the mass cutting of creatures
Those creatures added nothing to the game except worse game balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:45:36 No.42257241 Report

Quoted By: >>42257382 >>42257496

>>42257218
So it's not purely post-game then, is it? By definition it can't be considered purely post game, right? Retard child.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:51:42 No.42257300 Report

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>>42257004
>carrying over pokemon
>not testing out new options available to your bro in a new meta
>not watching 'bro go from something known to be in OU matches to RU so your bro can do more
>wanting and encouraging to pay more + more tip to watch your bro and 'bro not be in any matches for several years

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:57:52 No.42257382 Report

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>>42257241
Oh, you're a troll.
Carry on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 20:58:20 No.42257393 Report

Quoted By: >>42257643

XY are probably the more competently made games, but I still got more enjoyment out of SwSh

Post 3DS games ranking
SuMo/USUM > SwSh ≥ ORAS > XY

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 21:01:07 No.42257425 Report

Quoted By: >>42257466 >>42257511 >>42257512 >>42257563

>Not thinking Gen3 is the worse

The only reason you fags like it is because it was your first Pokemon game and you didn't know any better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 21:04:04 No.42257466 Report

Quoted By: >>42257563

>>42257425
>abilities
>secret bases
>contests
>massively improved held item selection
>massively improved berry system
Yeah I'm thinking they're kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 21:07:03 No.42257496 Report

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>>42257241
>people say part of it is postgame
>still try to strawman because you’re a disingenuous faggot
Last (You) from me, autist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 21:07:58 No.42257511 Report

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>>42257425
>But but but what about gamee that came out two decades ago!!!
If anything, it just shows how laughably bad swooshi is. Not to mention RS got plenty of backlash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 21:08:05 No.42257512 Report

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>>42257425
Sapphire was my fourth Pokémon game and I still revisit them. They’re pretty fun for initial games, though obviously they have all of the failures of them.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 21:12:47 No.42257563 Report

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>>42257425
t. Sinnohfetus
to add on >>42257466 statement,
>Weather trio is still the best trio of legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 21:14:47 No.42257587 Report

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>>42256423
I'd say it's shit, yeah.
If anything it just shows how sad of a situation Gamefreak is in.
>openly state they're putting in minimal effort on the newest mainline game (read: not focusing on Pokemon anymore because want to make new IPs)
>put their best guys on some Town game or whatever
>Town comes out, vanishes into literal who land
Pokemon is a success purely because of the name on the box
On one hand it shows that GF literally doesn't need good talent to pull in money, but also that they can't do anything else since anything they do that isn't Pokemon is a waste of time and money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Jan 2020 21:19:41 No.42257643 Report

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>>42257393
usum is pretty meh. that rival, the amount of cutscenes. game gets old fast.

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