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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 13:26:36 No.42292566 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42292584 >>42292591 >>42292598

why did they make it so stupidly broken?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 13:28:35 No.42292584 Report

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>>42292566

Because sometimes they just throw out random numbers/ideas and don't care for balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 13:29:11 No.42292591 Report

Quoted By: >>42292607

>>42292566
Zacian-Hero is the actual broken one. Inability to hold items is a significant drawback.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 13:31:02 No.42292598 Report

Quoted By: >>42292614 >>42292639

>>42292566
>Zacian-C S -> B

>Don't get me wrong, Zacian-C is an okay pokemon with a narrow niche. The problem with Zacian-C is that it's unable to adapt to the metagame changes. I believe that the options for adaptions has been maxed out due to its shallow movepool. This is an issue because it means that every single team can be prepared for Zacian-C and be essentially guaranteed to beat it from the preview. You could argue that the only reason that this is happening is because Zacian-C is so blatantly powerful. IMO, the teambuilding pressure is actually coming from normal Zacian, and Zacian-C is being passively checked alongside. In addition, Zacian-C suffers from opportunity cost from Zacian with its superior typing and free item slot which enable much more adaptability.

>Zacian B -> A+

>Zacian is fast and powerful pokemon that is definitely better than its Crowned version. Choice band sets 2hkos the whole tier. There is no counter for this set. Its typing allows it to be only trapped by Dugtrio in its 40%'s, while Zacian-C is trapped after 1 Substitute chip. Zacian can use Choice scarf to become a powerful speed control tool. Zacian can use LO to become an even more powerful sweeper that can choose moves. In addition, since Eternatus has been forgoing poison move for Flamethrower, Zacian is an excellent check vs Eternatus and immediately threaten the rest of the team. Zacian has item slot which allows it endless amount of adaptions compared to its inferior form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 13:31:38 No.42292607 Report

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>>42292591
t. That guy who thinks the CB set is the best thing in the world since it beats in that vr thread
Reminder that Scizor is actually totally better than its Mega form because it does more damage with LO and CB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 13:32:29 No.42292614 Report

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>>42292598
smogon mods have shown time and time again that they have favorites and will do anything to keep them in the tier they're moderating

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 13:34:26 No.42292639 Report

Quoted By: >>42292648

>>42292598
>People start running things specifically to counter a Pokemon
>It should be B rank
Fuck. Landorus-T is such a shitmon after everyone started running Ice moves to deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 13:35:35 No.42292648 Report

Quoted By: >>42292656 >>42292691

>>42292639
Considering ubers is just OU plus Eternatus, Zacian and Darm-G (Zamazenta is shit), the tier is automatically centered around them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 13:36:38 No.42292656 Report

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>>42292648
Don't forget Shadow Tag Gothitelle. That's a bigger issue than those three combined.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 13:39:57 No.42292691 Report

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>>42292648
Consider also that Zamazenta is a better Choice Band user than Zacian.

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