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Say something good and bad about every gen

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 15:20:30 No.42347181 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42348293 >>42348650 >>42348728

Gen I
>Good: the richest and most organic looking designs
>Bad: game mechanics are a complete tragedy

Gen II
>Good: most inventive and important gen for game mechanics
>Bad: dropped the ball on level design very hard this gen

Gen III
>Good: very stacked when it comes to sidegames
>Bad: pre-wifi hurts this gen the hardest with how ridiculously exclusive every game is in collecting them all

Gen IV
>Good: continues and improves on nearly every concept previously introduced while also bringing new ones to the table
>Bad: powercreep, overdesign and everything "complicated" have now completely replaced the early, simple charm

Gen V
>Good: ballsy soft-reboot for the franchise
>Bad: start of the generations feeling half-assed/unfinished

Gen VI
>Good: revamps a lot of stuff in the franchise in a refreshing way
>Bad: shortcuts and handholding are getting out-of-hand

Gen VII
>Good: unique look and feel in this intermediary generation
>Bad: sidegames are getting really neglected with the focus placed on app games now

Gen VIII (probably too early to resume the gen, but so far:)
>Bad: programming shortcuts are rampant
>Good: in turn of the shortcuts, it feels more manageable and "simpler" again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 15:59:44 No.42347608 Report

Quoted By: >>42349460

Gen I
>Good: Had a lot of content for a first game
>Bad: A buggy mess

Gen II
>Good: Managed to fit two regions on that damn cart
>Bad: Felt like Kanto part 2 due to lack of new Pokemon and new baby Pokemon

Gen III
>Good: In-game events started being implemented more which continued into later games
>Bad: Not enough rival battles

Gen IV
>Good: Much needed evolutions to older Pokemon (I know this kind of contradicts my thoughts on gen 2 baby Pokemon)
>Bad: Ran poorly at first, DP was slow

Gen V
>Good: Rich story, with direct sequels
>Bad: BW only letting you use new Pokemon for your playthrough

Gen VI
>Good: Megas
>Bad: boring battle animations and new 3d models essentially ruining some Pokemon

Gen VII
>Good: Doing something new with island trials, and splitting the region into islands
>Bad: Not enough player freedom, very 'hand-holdy' and filled with interruptions and cutscenes

Gen VIII
>Good: Gyms feel really immersive and exciting
>Bad: removal of Pokemon and dynamax being a bad mechanic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 16:26:49 No.42347929 Report

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>Gen 1
Good: Nostalgia
Bad: Nostalgia

>Gen 2
Comfy
Pokemon distribution and movesets

>Gen 3
Abilities
IVs

>Gen 4
Physical-Special split
Slow/HMs

>Gen 5
B2W2 had the most content so far
Kanto parallels

>Gen 6
Breeding mechanics, few legendaries
Everything else

>Gen 7
No HMs, Ultra Beasts, bottle caps
Cutscenes, USUM don't feel like a whole new game

>Gen 8
Being able to catch all fully evolved pokemon, TRs, mints
Map too small, story is 95% exposition with no involvement until the climax

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 16:56:10 No.42348293 Report

Quoted By: >>42348471 >>42348900

>>42347181
without looking at anyone else's points, i'll give it a shot:
KANTOOOOOO
> good: grants the most freedom to the players, doesn't hold your hand, and gets legendaries right
> bad: boring region, bland and empty. the ai was busted for g1 & its g3 remakes as well. glitches galore, some types didn't even work right, and psychics ruled the metagame.
JOHTO
> good: double region, the final boss is (You), so many new unique pokemon, legendary design was cooler, perfect balance between a godmon and just a strongmon/raremon. lot's of soul, the place feels vibrant and alive. the remakes are the greatest games of all time, especially with followers, pokeathlon, frontier, and the leaf crown, as well as well-executed callbacks, a palpark and a pokewalker. new types balanced the entire game, and items berries, and pokeballs were kino asfuck. introduced color & day/night cycles.
> bad: ai is still kinda easy to bunk. this is evident in the red fight. the red fight in the remakes should have read your firered/leafgreen team if you caught mewtwo and re-defeated blue. missed opportunity. not many johtomons are good or even show up, lmfao.
HOENN/ORRE
> good: tied for first with sinnoh as the region with the most SOUL in it. AMAZING pokemon designs, great music, the first battle frontiers, and the first godmon legendaries, be that for better or for worse. everything in that game is just solid and looks solid. colosseum & XD were FUCKING AMAZING, never to be topped by swooshie (not that that's a difficult feat, lmfao)
> Bad: remakes were the worst thing to happen to them, rip hoenn. at least the g6.5 vers. hoenn remakes gave us new megas
SINNOH
> good: tied for 1st on SOUL-meter with hoenn. EASILY the comfiest games. pretty cool story that you can A-mash through easily if you're a virgin cuckold, or relish if you're an alpha chad. the new pokemon are also just as fantastic as the hoennmons. singlehandedlythe best postgame ever, save for johto's kanto. platinum fixed a lot of

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 17:07:48 No.42348471 Report

Quoted By: >>42348615 >>42348900

>>42348293
> platinum fixed a lot of problems that d/p had, and the event legendaries were KINO AS FUCK, HOLY SHIT. the music was the best the series had to offer. the story really fleshed out the pokemon world's lore to the extreme. gts made trading a breeze, and the online battling was fun. the competitive scene was more balanced than it has ever been. truly the pinnacle of pokemon
> bad: some complaints about d/p that i wouldn't know since i got platinum instead lmfao seethe harder d/p trannies, platinum chads have you outclassed. the male character looks gay asfuck, but the female character is so goddamn cute it balances out. dawn berlitz > lucas fuckface
UNOVA
> good: the world felt so alive, and the story was epic. seasons, difficulty settings, dream world, sequels, lovable characters, SO MANY new pokemon, animated sprites, new battle styles, it really felt like pokemon was getting better. while it did cut some things, it made up for what they cut with AMAZING new content. shame modern pokemon releases can't say the same. the music was good, not amazing, not bad, not horrible, just good. solid. the difficulty was perfected, and the postgame, while not perfect, was still DAMN SOLID. while the story-driven approach hindered alternative route-taking and some exploration, GF did all they could to make each route very interesting and explorable.
> bad: some cut features were sad but understandable, given the new engine. the new pokemon designs were either kinda bad or just kanto ripoffs, if not already both anyways. we had just a bit too many legendaries at this point, and comp was a weather wars mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 17:19:53 No.42348615 Report

Quoted By: >>42348818 >>42348900

>>42348471
KALOS:
> good: mega evolutions, mega evolutions, mega evolutions. the fairy type may have balanced battles already, but megas allowed underappreciated pokemon to have some spotlight! the first step into 3d was okay. it was a launch title after all. trainer customization was finally a thing.
> bad: this game is too goddamn easy. the graphics didn't age well at all. the story is garbage, the newmons were too few and too bad to really make a difference. the battle facility is still gimped. the lack of a third updated version is painful, especially considering how much potential kalos had. the competitive metagame would have been EXTRAORDINARY, if only aegislash, talonflame, and klefki didn't exist. sky battles are dumb. the HORRIBLY BUTCHERED hoenn remakes, ORAS, were almost unforgivable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 17:22:11 No.42348650 Report

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>>42347181
Kanto:
Good: Great Pokedex, fun concept, a simple game meant to be replayed
Bad: Buggy as fuck

Jotho:
Good: Great expansion to the franchise, it really feels like a continuation
Bad: Level curve

Gen III:
Good: Emerald had the battle frontier, first Pokemon postgame area that had the challenge as it's own reward, FRLG were amazing improvements to the original games and made them basically obsolete.
Bad: Ruby and Sapphire settled a precedent for half assed games being "fixed" by a third version you had to buy next year

Gen IV:
Good: HGSS made Gen II obsolete and even added the battle frontier.
Bad: The Pokedex was shit, too many unnecessary cross evolutions and a ridiculous amount of legendaries (more than 10% of the Pokedex)

Gen V:
Nice try to make a reboot, but poorly executed

Gen VI:
The villains are shit, E4 is shit, rivals are shit, the only good thing are megas and fairy type. ORAS was shit too

Gen VII:
Good: comfy area that makes you want to explore
Bad: you can't explore, the game is basically a guided tour, LGPE is shit

Gen VIII:
Good: comfy as fuck
Bad: DLC

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 17:27:47 No.42348728 Report

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>>42347181
>Gen 1
Good: Most consistent mon design and region
Bad: Atrocious gameplay
>Gen 2
Good: Comfiest region and lengthiest post-game
Bad: Horrendous pokemon availability and learnsets
>Gen III
Good: Greatly improved gameplay and interesting region
Bad: Underwhelming technical capabilities
>Gen IV
Good: Best third version and best remake
Bad: Slow as shit
>Gen V
Good: Smoother gameplay and lengthy post-game
Bad: Underwhelming mon design and sprites/animations
>Gen VI
Good: Great new mechanics like Megas and fairy type
Bad: A step back in every other aspect
>Gen VII
Good: Biggest amount of available Pokemon, regional forms and a shit load of legendaries
Bad: Too many fucking cutscenes, a half-assed remake of Gen 1
>Gen VIII
Good: Good new Pokemon like Toxtricity, Grimmsnarl and Dragapult
Bad: Everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 17:34:31 No.42348818 Report

Quoted By: >>42348900 >>42348914

>>42348615
ALOLA (i skipped original and played usum, so that'll be what this one is about)
> good: gladion is easily the best rival we've had in about a decade and a little more. all of the characters are pretty solid, if not a little bit annoying. this game has the largest regional pokedex of all time if you include island scan & ultra wormhole, which i do. despite only being one battle tower ripoff, the battle tree is a battle tower done right. they finally removed HM's. Z-Moves mixed up the gameplay a good bit. the new 3d engine looks SO MUCH BETTER than the oras engine. a break from gym challenges was LONG overdue, and totem pokemon are properly done.
> bad: SHUT THE FUCK UP ROTOM! SHUT THE FUCK UP HAU! EVERYONE JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LET ME PLAY THE FUCKING GAME! JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST! this balls easy game is so fucking annoying with everything stopping your progress to remind you how to throw a fucking pokeball. the routes are corridors and there is no exploration. there are too many legendary ripoff pokemon and they're all not only busted as fuck, but they're also ALLOWED IN NORMAL VGC. that's why i love my personal "Nuva Bracket." much less autism. the online is fucking garbage & we lost the pss for that bullshit. the only battle facility is a fucking tree. there's too much fucking kanto pandering, when will it stop? too many missed opportuniteis with ultra space, especially since all the dimentions are LITERALLY A 40 HAMMER UNIT CORRIDOR TO ONE POKEMON, LIKE WHAT THE FUCK GAMEFUCK. the ultra editions added hardly anything that the base versions didn't have. all of the characters are annoying as shit save for gladion who is also kinda annoying with his shadow the hottopic personality. unless you're quicklink battling or asking specific players, you can't 6v6 quickbattle for singles or doubles; only 3v3 or 4v4.
fuck usum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 17:40:22 No.42348900 Report

Quoted By: >>42348928

>>42348293
>>42348471
>>42348615
>>42348818
ain't nobody gonna read all of that anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 17:41:36 No.42348914 Report

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>>42348818
GALARD
> good: wild area was a cool idea, i guess. the dlc is kinda like the event legendaries returning, but this time you have to pay for them.
> bad: LITERALLY EVERYTHING HOLY FUCKING SHIT. HALF OF THE POKEDEX IS GONE AND FOR WHAT? LIES AND PREASU UNDERSTANDOS. MEGAS ARE GONE AND DYNAMAX IS BROKEN AS FUCK. EVERYTHING IS STUCK BEHIND PAYWALLS. THE ANIMATIONS ARE TERRIBLE, THE GRAPHICS ARE SUB-PAR, THE REGION IS BLAND, EMPTY, AND SOULLESS. THE ROUTES ARE SHORTER AND MORE CORRIDOR-ESQUE THAN USUM HOW DID YOU EVEN MANAGE TO DO THAT? THE NEW POKEMON LOOK LIKE GARBAGE, THE COMP IS A MESS, THE WILD AREA IS POORLY EXECUTED, THE RAIDS ARE EXPLOITABLE AND BUGGED TO THIS DAY, HOP STOPS YOU EVERY TWELVE SECONDS, THE GAME HAS NO CONTENT IN GAME OR POSTGAME, THE PACING IS HORRIBLE, THE STORY IS HORSESHIT, WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID YOU BUY THIS GAME?!
YOU TOOK FUN & MADE IT UN-FUN. HOW'D YOU MANAGE TO EVEN DO THAT?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 17:42:38 No.42348928 Report

Quoted By: >>42348951

>>42348900
illiterate fagsack, lmfaooooooooo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 17:44:01 No.42348951 Report

Quoted By: >>42348991 >>42349709

>>42348928
just don't care about your opinions faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 17:46:58 No.42348991 Report

Quoted By: >>42349709

>>42348951
then counter them, virgin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 18:25:36 No.42349460 Report

Quoted By: >>42349681

>>42347608
>>Bad: BW only letting you use new Pokemon for your playthrough
He told us to say something bad, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 18:37:57 No.42349681 Report

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>>42349460
this is bad, to a certain extent. if I want to run through with sceptile, gardevoir, and politoed, like i did with every previous generation, I should be able to. there should be a way to do that, while still allowing the game to ENCOURAGE (not force) players to use the newmons. as it stood for gen5 & gen5.5, it took having a friend who already beat the game, letting them transfer your mons to their games, then trading it over manually. very tedious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Jan 2020 18:39:42 No.42349709 Report

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>>42348951
>>42348991
been an hour, and you haven't countered. not even a single attempt. can victory really come so easily?

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