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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:28:37 No.42358185 View View Reply Original Report

>We want our old features back!!
>Okay. Apricorns are back

>We want more pokemon!!
>Okay. Here are 200 mons

>We want waifus!!
>Okay. Here are some new waifus

>We want battle facilities!
Okay. Here is a whole area designated for battles

>We want a balanced meta
>Okay. Here is a completely fair and ever-evolving meta

>We want more dungeons and caves to explore
>Okay. Here are some more caves

>We want the wild area to be bigger
>Okay. Here are more areas

>We want more new legendaries!!
>Okay. Here are some more new legendaries

>We want a longer campaign!!
>Okay. Here is more campaign

>We don't want Masuda directing!!
>Okay. Here's a new person.

>We want lower prices!!
>Okay. Here's the cheapest third version in history

What is /vp/ still complaining about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:30:07 No.42358209 Report

Quoted By: >>42363895

>>42358185
The temples look like Ocarina of Time locations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:30:24 No.42358211 Report

Quoted By: >>42360684

>>42358185
The people here are never satisfied. If Masuda personally came to them and said he’d make their Poke waifu real, they’d still find something to hate. Fuck this board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:30:33 No.42358212 Report

Quoted By: >>42358834 >>42360212

>paying 90$ for the same content as 40$ games

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:31:03 No.42358217 Report

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>>42358185

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:31:10 No.42358219 Report

Quoted By: >>42358511 >>42360237 >>42360405

I think the problem stems from Sw/Sh having a very bare-bones postgame and not looking too different from the 3DS games, despite being a jump from handheld to console. So then the DLC feels like a slap in the face because it's like paying for the postgame the game should have probably had to begin with. I know Pokemon aren't locked behind a paywall, they're easily transferable. But the Legendaries essentially are locked behind that paywall, whereas in previous titles, they would be in the game to begin with. Or given out free as event mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:31:26 No.42358224 Report

Quoted By: >>42364033 >>42365418

>>42358185
>Okay. Here's the cheapest third version in history
I came here to laugh at (you)

>We want more dungeons and caves to explore
>thinks they showed ANY dungeon
An laugh harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:44:29 No.42358445 Report

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>>42358185
I primarily want more exploration and adventuring. I'm waiting to see if the DLC actually offers that, but thus far the only thing they've really shown off is the regi temple. A post game dungeon is nice, but hardly makes up for the utter lack of optional areas during the actual story mode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:46:44 No.42358487 Report

Quoted By: >>42358545 >>42359889

>>42358185
>Paying to get back removed content
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:47:01 No.42358489 Report

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>>42358185
It would unironically be pretty decent as a standalone adventure, but the biggest drawback is you have to buy SwSh to access any of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:47:54 No.42358499 Report

Quoted By: >>42358530

>>42358185
>Area designed for battles
??? Please point me in the direction of that area. Unless you mean the Battle Tower, which is in every game except SwSh managed to make it a shell of its former self

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:49:00 No.42358511 Report

Quoted By: >>42358556

>>42358219
Only technically. For someone who doesn’t buy the DLC, they still have the chance to get said new Legendaries through trades

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:50:31 No.42358530 Report

Quoted By: >>42358694

>>42358499
They teased at the very end that a new battle area is unlocked after beating the main game story and dlc stories so who really knows at this point

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:51:31 No.42358543 Report

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>>42358185
You're listing multiple things that have been staples for the series (especially if we're talking about the base games) since the start being stripped away and sold back to us later at half the price of the original game.
Why should we/I be happy that I now have to pay for the postgame legendary trio/optional legendaries, caves and dungeons, a longer plot/plot in general, additional areas in the postgame, etc? All of those, and more, have been standard since the start

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:51:45 No.42358545 Report

Quoted By: >>42359037

>>42358487
>paying to get content that could have been in the game if GF wasn't forced to launch for the holiday season
Pokemon would sell like hotcakes in June based on name recognition alone, but apparently Nintendo wanted 2019 to be the year for Pokemon and didn't plan on anything else coming out for Switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:52:34 No.42358556 Report

Quoted By: >>42358593 >>42358714

>>42358511
I mean, yeah, but that's assuming someone's just willing to give up their legendary. I still think that's tremendously silly. Again, the precedent was that legendaries were always in the game to catch from the get-go or given out free at events, so it's still kinda scummy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:52:46 No.42358557 Report

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>>42358185
>Here's the cheapest third version in history
nice try
you almost had me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 02:54:35 No.42358593 Report

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>>42358556
Yeah but who knows if there won’t be events down the line for said Legendaries? Like you said, we’ve always gotten them, it’s just playing the waiting game. Would you rather wait for the inevitable or shill out money for something you don’t really want ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:00:16 No.42358694 Report

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>>42358530
Oh I missed that. Still, for all we know that just means more generic trainer battles in the 70-80s rather than actual facility styled battles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:01:44 No.42358714 Report

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>>42358556
I don't see how that's very different from people that bought the first versions of games only to be told that they would have to buy the third versions to get new Pokémon

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:04:49 No.42358755 Report

Quoted By: >>42358945

>>42358185
>using based mecha to push your bullshit narrative
>We want our old features back!!
>Okay. Apricorns are back
What will they be used for? I don't think I've seen a single person express hate for this specific feature

>We want more pokemon!!
>Okay. Here are 200 mons
The people complained about dexit because it meant that gamefreak was just being straight up lazy because they specifically made the 3D models to be future proof.
>We want waifus!!
>Okay. Here are some new waifus
Only coomers and normalfags want "waifus"
>We want battle facilities!
Okay. Here is a whole area designated for battles
Yes for battles but what does that mean and what will it be like. The battle tower is massively gimped compared to the battle frontier
>We want a balanced meta
>Okay. Here is a completely fair and ever-evolving meta
This point has to be a shitpost, you can't be this dumb
>We want more dungeons and caves to explore
>Okay. Here are some more caves
Yes more caves that are straight lines
>We want the wild area to be bigger
>Okay. Here are more areas
Nothing to complain about here
>We want more new legendaries!!
>Okay. Here are some more new legendaries
Who the hell said they wanted more legendaries? People have been complaining about there being too many legendaries for a while now. Also these legendaries are shit
>We want a longer campaign!!
>Okay. Here is more campaign
DLC isn't campaign
>We don't want Masuda directing!!
>Okay. Here's a new person.
Ok
>We want lower prices!!
>Okay. Here's the cheapest third version in history
A third version would've benefitted the intelligent buyers who waited for the third version only spending 60 dollars. Making the third version 30 dollars makes this the most expensive pokemon game at 90 dollars just to get the original full experience before they witheld content.
>What is /vp/ still complaining about?
The game being shit about exploration, characters, story, and graphics

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:08:35 No.42358804 Report

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>>42358185
>>Okay. Here are 200 mons
Which is still not all of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:10:33 No.42358834 Report

Quoted By: >>42359094 >>42364407

>>42358212
>paying $80 for a game and the "upgraded" version that has shit that should've been in the base game, but is ultimately the same game
Not to mention swsh is skipping the bullshit of having to play through the entire game once more, just adds a shitload of content onto the game you already own
feel free to seethe more though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:10:47 No.42358836 Report

Quoted By: >>42359009

>Okay here
Where?
>Behind this paid DLC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:18:08 No.42358945 Report

Quoted By: >>42359071 >>42359117 >>42359169 >>42360116

>>42358755
>The game being shit about exploration
There's a whole extra area for that now
>characters
Expansion has more characters
>story
Expansion has more lore
>graphics
It has the best graphics out of any mainline game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:22:39 No.42359009 Report

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>>42358836
>Okay here
Where?
>Behind this paid *insert any more expensive third main Pokémon game*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:24:35 No.42359027 Report

Quoted By:

>>42358185
>That'll be $90 plus Home for everything and still doesn't have all of the features or Pokemon that were in the last few games
I mean, yeah, we get more content but selling a less-than-barebones main game and charging dlc for basic features is shitty

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:25:15 No.42359037 Report

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>>42358545
Doesn’t the rushed nature of the games also coincide with deadlines of its multimedia franchise? The games can’t be delayed because it all has to release around the same time (games, new anime, cards, toys).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:26:15 No.42359057 Report

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>>42358185
I'm gonna steal your switch and when you say "We (you, your ethot "gf" and tyrone) want our switch back", I'll say "Ok, just $200"
You paid $300 to get the switch in the first place, so that seems reasonable, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:27:28 No.42359071 Report

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>>42358945
I fucking despise sun and moon. I really, truly despise them, but they have better graphics than swsh. Take your fucking n64 ass lookin shovelware somewhere else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:28:52 No.42359094 Report

Quoted By: >>42359191

>>42358834
>Third version bad
UsUm sold terribly compared to base games and everyone mocked them for the ultra changes bullshit. The base game is also resellable or optional entirely in the case of a third version so paying $80 is unrealistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:30:07 No.42359117 Report

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>>42358945
>There's a whole extra area for that now
You mean another empty field to cycle around?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:31:50 No.42359153 Report

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>>42358185
Anyone who actually wants waifus or furbait in Pokémon deserves the rope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:32:25 No.42359169 Report

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>>42358945
Oh boy, can't wait for a temple with a single hallway and an empty field 1/10 the size of the existing empty field
Based gamefreak does it again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:33:38 No.42359191 Report

Quoted By: >>42359247 >>42359873

>>42359094
you're literally proving my point. If I'm going to spend more money on a generation, I want more actual content with depth, not a rehash of the same game, which is exactly what the expansion pass is doing, at a lower price

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:36:39 No.42359247 Report

Quoted By: >>42359386

>>42359191
Sun and Moon are objectively bad, so take literally nothing I say as a compliment towards them
Sun and moon have more content than sword and shield, better graphics, a better story, and a better postgame.
Sun and moon are $40, and sword and shield are $90

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:45:11 No.42359386 Report

Quoted By: >>42359457

>>42359247
>Sun and moon are $40 (with minimal extra content provided a year later at another $40), and sword and shield are $60 (on a console with better graphic quality), with plenty more content on the way in the next year without having to purchase another whole game
Fixed it for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 03:48:50 No.42359457 Report

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>>42359386
Sure, they're on a console with better graphic quality
Shame they don't make use of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:13:45 No.42359832 Report

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At least a third version would have fixed the glaring issues the base game has.
Don’t forget how insultingly small 400 felt when that fact was revealed. 600 =/= 893(+?) and that extra transferability is the only thing the dlc will fix for base SwSh. Big whoop, still not worth $60.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:16:17 No.42359873 Report

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>>42359191
You're spending $90 on a little extra content that adds to a game already lacking severely that isn't more content for less

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:16:56 No.42359889 Report

Quoted By: >>42359952

>>42358487
Can you prove the content was removed? Because the datamining proved long ago that it wasn't. Usually games with cut content release the DLC quickly to make a buck, not wait until the following winter. Dumbfuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:21:37 No.42359952 Report

Quoted By: >>42360257 >>42363538

>>42359889
Ah yes, they rendered these areas, drew up all this concept art, got all of that footage ready, cut it into a trailer, made the cgi parts of the 2 trailers, got a few dozen supposedly "impossible" mons working in engine with new textures, and shot a nintendo direct, edited it, and scheduled it, all in the month and a half since release.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:22:14 No.42359964 Report

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>>42358185
>We want our old features back!!
>Okay. Apricorns are back
imagine calling balls a feature, if they are, it's one you don't have.

>We want more pokemon!!
>Okay. Here are 200 mons
Shouldn't be paid, still isn't all, still a problem.

>We want waifus!!
>Okay. Here are some new waifus
Not an actual point, only for less than 0.000000001% of the community.

>We want battle facilities!
>Okay. Here is a whole area designated for battles
What? The worst battle tree since oras?

>We want a balanced meta
>Okay. Here is a completely fair and ever-evolving meta
Play the game. They introduced fish and gorilla tactics while removing options in the form of other pokemon. They didn't balance the game by removing any.

>We want more dungeons and caves to explore
>Okay. Here are some more caves
At this point you must be trolling, there's 2 "caves" that are literally indoor linear routes, and from what we've seen of the dlc it's 2 extra wild areas.

>We want the wild area to be bigger
>Okay. Here are more areas
Nobody has asked this, nobody even asked for the wild area in the first place. The complaint is the wild area is empty, adding extra space just makes it on average more empty.

>We want more new legendaries!!
>Okay. Here are some more new legendaries
Nobody asked for this, you expect the box legendary you get a box legendary. Nobody is cooming over the idea of a legendary and begging gf for more.

>We want a longer campaign!!
>Okay. Here is more campaign
For 3x the cost of the DS games, you can get a game just as long. You feel how stupid that is yet?

>We don't want Masuda directing!!
>Okay. Here's a new person.
He's probably working on the next game, that wasn't an audience directed decision.

>We want lower prices!!
>Okay. Here's the cheapest third version in history
Is this the setup for a joke? The game with dlc is more expensive than buying BOTH sun/moon AND ultra sun/moon, let alone buying just the 3rd game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:29:25 No.42360072 Report

Quoted By: >>42360222

Imagine paying $30 for event legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:32:17 No.42360116 Report

Quoted By: >>42364187

>>42358945
here's your (you)

>The game being shit about exploration
>There's a whole extra area for that now
Did I miss something? Or do you think the new wild areas will somehow be different than the one we have? The wild area is an empty large route, or like 5 routes with no transition.

>characters
>Expansion has more characters
That sure is what dlc is, or are we saying them not reusing HauTwo is a feature now?

>story
>Expansion has more lore
Looks entirely disconnected from the main game, and is definitely not going to be as long as the main game, so with how shit the story of swsh was, and this being even shorter - It's not looking good.
But yes, (same as above) the dlc added content, congratulations, that's not a point and it doesn't mean it's good content.

>graphics
>It has the best graphics out of any mainline game
That's because it's the first game not on a handheld, and at least the handheld games looked comparative to the other games on the console.
Go look at hg/ss and then at other DS games, or even red/blue and look at other gameboy games. Then look at sword/shield and then look at luigi's mansion 3.
Previous pokemon games looked as good as other games on the same console, swsh doesn't. Of course the games will look progressively better, the only thing you've discovered here is the passage of time.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:36:16 No.42360168 Report

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>>42358185
>Okay. Here is a completely fair and ever-evolving meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:39:57 No.42360212 Report

Quoted By: >>42360772

>>42358212
You're not paying for the Pokemon, fool. Everybody gets access to their old mons. You just transfer them across.

You can't catch NEW ones, but you can't post here without catching them all.

You're paying for the campaign, for the locations. Not for the Pokemon--except for the new Pokemon, and that's nothing new USUM had new Pokemon every other third version (and that's all this is, it's just added on to your existing game instead) since Platinum has had new, exclusive forms.

But guess what, you can trade for the new mons too, without paying a single extra cent. If you wanted Rotom-W in 2010, you had to pay full price for Platinum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:40:19 No.42360222 Report

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>>42360072
Holy shit, that's literally what this is. This is why there weren't any event mons in the swsh code, they're literally selling what used to be free fucking event pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:41:29 No.42360237 Report

Quoted By: >>42360258

>>42358219
You can trade for Kubfu. Doesn't cost you a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:43:09 No.42360257 Report

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>>42359952
This.
Game Freak's had this planned since long before the Dexit news broke.

But you still don't have to buy the DLC if you don't want. All the new Pokemon can just be traded or transferred.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:43:12 No.42360258 Report

Quoted By: >>42360273 >>42360288

>>42360237
Sure, I'll just hop on the gts and inpu-

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:43:39 No.42360267 Report

Quoted By: >>42361293 >>42362412

>>42358185
Even with these updates, the game still doesn't meet standards set by older games.

>We're still missing tons of Pokemon and moves
>The EXP. Share is still broken
>There's no post-game
> The Expansion Passes will likely be shallow or lack replay value
>We still only have the same Battle Tower we've had in every game for the past 10+ years.
>No side-quest like Contests
>The main story is still complete shit, even by Pokemon standards
>Megas and Z-Moves still missing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:44:11 No.42360273 Report

Quoted By: >>42360307 >>42365731

>>42360258
>he doesn't have friends

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:45:12 No.42360288 Report

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>>42360258
Shit, just ask for one on the wifi general if you're so opposed to paying $30.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:46:01 No.42360307 Report

Quoted By: >>42360328

>>42360273
My friends all have better taste than you and haven't bought this dumpster fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:47:07 No.42360328 Report

Quoted By: >>42360361

>>42360307
Sounds like they have better taste than you too, if they don't own Sword or Shield. Nice self-own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:49:01 No.42360361 Report

Quoted By: >>42360388

>>42360328
I don't either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:49:34 No.42360370 Report

Quoted By:

>>42358185
>releases half finished game with barely any content for $60
>adds content that should have been there to begin with for additional $30
>Price is now $90 not $80 for all the content
>Still can't transfer all your previous pokemon into the fucking game just 200 more.
>Still looks like shit.
Gee I wonder why people are complaining.
Gee I wonder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:50:52 No.42360388 Report

Quoted By: >>42360476

>>42360361
So this doesn't affect you at all. You still have access to all your Pokemon.

Just play Sun and Moon. Or X and Y.
If you don't own the game then your opinion on new additions to the game is fucking worthless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:51:47 No.42360405 Report

Quoted By: >>42360472

>>42358219
why is nobody addressing the issue here?
the biggest, BIGGEST ISSUE is that the base game is short and empty and had the weakest storyline ever and yet it still cost more than full feature DS games with zero useful additions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:52:11 No.42360412 Report

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>>42358185
the DLC looks coo, I think people were already so set on hating the game that they just don't want to back down. if this specific content was added to XY or SM as DLC people would lose their fucking shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:56:18 No.42360472 Report

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>>42360405
That's fair.
Masuda still hasn't gotten over the idea that kids have no attention spans.

They should forget the casual mobile crowd, they need to appeal to the Fortnite kids. I mean, they're halfway there already, with their huge roster of colourful characters. Kids these days spend 1000+ hours on that game, and that's a thousand hours they're not spending on Pokemon's boring-ass campaign.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 04:56:24 No.42360476 Report

Quoted By: >>42360558 >>42360627 >>42360708

>>42360388
>"Hey, where's that pizza I ordered? I get one every year."
>"sorry, we don't sell pizza anymore. this is a turd on a stick, lightly fried."
>"That's disgusting."
>"well, you don't have to buy it"
>"Well, I still want a pizza, and you were the only one in town that used to sell them."
>"WELLLLL, AREN'T YOU A TOXIC ENTITLED INCEL"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:00:44 No.42360558 Report

Quoted By: >>42360718

>>42360476
Gamefreak doesn't owe you anything. They don't owe you pokemon, they don't owe you the 200 they're GIVING you for FREE. They don't owe you a game. You are nothing compared to them. Every time you complain, 100,000 more copies are sold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:04:55 No.42360627 Report

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>>42360476
>"let me just be an ungrateful prick about over 200 pokemon being added in for free and pretend being given a high quality steak instead of a greasy pizza is shit"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:07:43 No.42360684 Report

Quoted By: >>42360726 >>42364122

>>42358211
People seem pretty fucking satisfied with the new Mystery Dungeon. Maybe it's because Spike Chunsoft is clearly trying to do more than bare minimum?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:08:59 No.42360708 Report

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>>42360476
Well, I can see from just this you're both toxic and entitled, so that's 2/3, and I'm willing to bet money (you're probably also too poor to afford it) that you're an incel too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:09:24 No.42360718 Report

Quoted By: >>42360778

>>42360558
I love how you chucklefucks can't do anything but spout "STOP BEING ENTITLED" when someone says a AAA game is a piece of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:10:11 No.42360726 Report

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>>42360684
>dungeon remake
>more than the bare minimum
No, they're satisfied because they're pussywhipped and bare minimum seems like solid gold compared to game freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:12:31 No.42360772 Report

Quoted By: >>42361258

>>42360212
but there's no gts, am I just supposed to go to gamefaqs and find someone to give me 200+ pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:12:46 No.42360778 Report

Quoted By: >>42361476 >>42363409

>>42360718
It's almost like it's true. No matter what, you're ridiculous standards wouldn't be satisfied by sword and shield, and honestly, the end product is far more than you deserve, but that's because it was made for real fans, not haters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:18:00 No.42360860 Report

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>>42358185
>Okay. Here is a whole area designated for battles
It’s going to be generic npc battles rather than facilities with different spins on battles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:44:55 No.42361258 Report

Quoted By: >>42364014

>>42360772
Yes it's called trading you can even do it on here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:48:17 No.42361293 Report

Quoted By: >>42361332

>>42360267
>>We're still missing tons of Pokemon and moves
Stopped reading there. If you unironically think the game is worse because "HURR I CAN'T USE BUBBLE AND HIDDEN POWER ANYMORE" then you're an actual retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:51:40 No.42361332 Report

Quoted By: >>42361460

>>42361293
>no hidden power
>when fucking landorus is about to come back
>when the absolute joke of a meta was listed as a positive in the op

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 05:54:21 No.42361376 Report

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The pokemon, dipshit
I want my Spinda in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 06:00:07 No.42361460 Report

Quoted By: >>42361539

>>42361332
Great, now maybe more actual ice types will be used, or they can distribute regular ice moves onto more Pokemon instead of limiting it to a retardedly designed archaic move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 06:01:28 No.42361476 Report

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>>42360778
Real fans don't post on /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 06:06:42 No.42361539 Report

Quoted By: >>42361563

>>42361460
>ice types
Congrats, they just took a stone edge from a landorus and fucking died, hence why everyone uses hp ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 06:08:43 No.42361563 Report

Quoted By: >>42361627

>>42361539
you could try not playing like a retard by not switching into a SE move and getting punished for free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 06:13:43 No.42361627 Report

Quoted By: >>42361646

>>42361563
Ah yes, all those amazing ice types that with max speed can barely outspeed landorus like
cryogonal
silvally ice
and jynx

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 06:15:03 No.42361646 Report

Quoted By: >>42361661

>>42361627
man it's too bad there isn't a priority ice move or pokemon with a secondary type that resists rock...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 06:16:20 No.42361661 Report

Quoted By: >>42362527

>>42361646
ah yes, a physical ice move against a mon with intimidate and high defense
almost like people use hidden power for a reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 07:02:40 No.42362412 Report

Quoted By: >>42362468

>>42360267
>Megas and Z moves are missing
Thank Christ, hopefully they will never return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 07:05:59 No.42362468 Report

Quoted By: >>42362498

>>42362412
Honestly, I wish they stuck to their guns and didn't bow to the whining incels and bring back the cut mons. The dex is getting too cluttered, I wanted them gone for good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 07:07:45 No.42362498 Report

Quoted By: >>42364624

>>42362468
Yeah, I was talking with someone on reddit about this the other day, the cut made for some of the most fresh gameplay since gen 5 cut all the previous 4 gens until postgame (which none of you bitched about)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 07:09:52 No.42362527 Report

Quoted By: >>42362596

>>42361661
yes because intimidate is active on every new pokemon that switches in, that's totally how it works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 07:14:02 No.42362596 Report

Quoted By: >>42362605

>>42362527
And clearly, this is why no one used to run hidden power ice to counter landorus, because every other option was so much more effective. I don't think I've ever seen hidden power ice on a single OU set in any gen with lando in OU. I'm sure the lack of it won't make landorus even more broken or anything, since all these other methods clearly keep it in check, after all, no one ever runs hidden power ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 07:14:49 No.42362605 Report

Quoted By:

>>42362596
>I'm sure the lack of it won't make landorus even more broken or anything
Yes, because Lando won't have access to HP either. Thank fuck that retarded move is gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 07:31:09 No.42362836 Report

Quoted By:

>>42358185
Because that should have been included along with the base game you fucking nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 07:38:29 No.42362931 Report

Quoted By: >>42363012

>>42358185
why wasn't all this included in the base game and not removed to sell back to me for 30 fucking dollars you faggot?

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 07:45:02 No.42363012 Report

Quoted By: >>42363468

>>42362931
>why wasn't all this included in the base game and not removed to sell back to me for 40 fucking dollars you faggot?

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 08:29:42 No.42363409 Report

Quoted By:

>>42360778
>because it was made for real fans, not haters.
>SwSh was made for real fans not haters
>SwSh
>For real fans
>Sword and fucking shield
The last game that was made for fans was Heart Gold and Soul Silver you mouth drooling retard and was so impactful in the Pokémon fan base we are still fucking complaining about no Pokémon companion following you around in the mainline games but in the awfully and laughably easy let's Go games even when they have had the walking and running animations since sun and moon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 08:34:43 No.42363468 Report

Quoted By:

>>42363012
Unless they do the same thing with platinum and fix next to every glaring problem DP had AND improve the game graphics, QoL, etc. No, it's not worth it

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 08:37:06 No.42363487 Report

Quoted By:

>>42358185
>Okay. Here is a completely fair and ever-evolving meta
Anon, is this bait?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 08:42:53 No.42363538 Report

Quoted By:

>>42359952
Yes, stupid. It's called a production. They're showing us what they were able to complete so far. Again, none of this shit was revealed in the data mine. It's NEW content. Not removed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 08:43:34 No.42363549 Report

Quoted By:

How about they give it for free?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 08:44:18 No.42363560 Report

Quoted By: >>42363573 >>42363880 >>42365786

>>42358185
I’mma just post these cuz they fit with OP’s image.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 08:46:08 No.42363573 Report

Quoted By: >>42364633 >>42365786

>>42363560

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:17:28 No.42363880 Report

Quoted By: >>42364161

>>42363560
fuck i want an orbeetle kit so bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:19:12 No.42363895 Report

Quoted By:

>>42358209
plus the new legendary has the triforce on him

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:29:59 No.42364014 Report

Quoted By: >>42364024 >>42364071 >>42364125 >>42364175

>>42361258
You're missing the point. This is the only game with no GTS despite the fact that it SHOULD be the ONE game where it's easiest to pull off, so why did they cut it?
To tempt players into buying the pass in order to get the Pokemon they want. It's the same exact psychological manipulation that drives fucking gacha games. Sure, you COULD take your time and grind out the Pokedex the SLOW way by finding people who bought the game and can trade. And sure, you COULD be patient and wait for your stamina to replenish and you COULD take your time grinding out orbs so you can try again for your waifu png... but why do all that when for a MEASLY amount of cold hard cash you can SKIP that whole process and get everything you need!
They made the Pokemon trade-able so they can technically present the idea that they're not simply locking them behind a paywall, but all it does is grind your gears and wear down your patience trying to find trade partners, so eventually you'll cave and hand over the $30.
It's the same shit with even smaller features like the return of apricorns. They include the one-use apricorn balls in order to make you really want them, and then they lock further stocks behind the paywall to tempt players into caving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:31:00 No.42364024 Report

Quoted By: >>42364036 >>42364056 >>42364072 >>42364086

>>42364014
>so why did they cut it?
so you can't cheese it by making another profile and moving pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:31:21 No.42364033 Report

Quoted By:

>>42358224
>They literally announced co-op dungeons with legends at the end

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:31:40 No.42364036 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364024
desu they should’ve just shrugged and let us do it anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:33:11 No.42364053 Report

Quoted By:

>>42358185
>$90 is cheaper than $40
ok retard

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:33:14 No.42364056 Report

Quoted By: >>42364121

>>42364024
Oh you mean the thing I did with my friend a few weeks ago because I got tired of my old name and there's STILL no fucking way to change your character despite Pokemon being a game you're expected to dump dozens, if not hundreds of hours into for 100% completion? Yeah removing the GTS stopped me in my tracks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:34:24 No.42364071 Report

Quoted By: >>42364087 >>42364100

>>42364014
Excuse me, but here will be the Home bank from where you just can transfer all of that returned shit even without trading. But i'm sure what from release of DLC there would be tons of those old mons on wondertrade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:34:30 No.42364072 Report

Quoted By: >>42364165

>>42364024
So the thing Bank was practically made for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:35:57 No.42364086 Report

Quoted By: >>42364165

>>42364024
so instead we move Pokémon via Home. Amazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:35:59 No.42364087 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364071
>Bro just buy back the feature
Also give me a quick guess at how long it takes to wondertrade for 200

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:37:02 No.42364100 Report

Quoted By: >>42364129

>>42364071
>you have to either buy another game AND pay for a Home subscription to complete the Pokedex or bank everything on the literal RNG of wondertrade to get 200+ pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:39:51 No.42364121 Report

Quoted By: >>42364195

>>42364056
>Oh you mean the thing I did with my friend a few weeks ago
your friend who bought a separate game instead of making a new profile with the game he already has?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:39:53 No.42364122 Report

Quoted By:

>>42360684
>new Mystery Dungeon
Wrong, it's a remake. They're just doing a remake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:40:54 No.42364125 Report

Quoted By: >>42364137 >>42364195

>>42364014
making a forum post is faster than using the GTS. Stop being a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:41:41 No.42364129 Report

Quoted By: >>42364152 >>42364195

>>42364100
Or just trade with people directly. It really isn't hard at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:42:16 No.42364137 Report

Quoted By: >>42364142

>>42364125
Factually wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:42:42 No.42364142 Report

Quoted By: >>42364198

>>42364137
Factually not wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:43:41 No.42364152 Report

Quoted By: >>42364178

>>42364129
Unless it's just with a friend who paid for the dlc that is going to be a soul crushingly tedious experience

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:44:43 No.42364161 Report

Quoted By:

>>42363880
I want to fuck an orbeetle so bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:44:54 No.42364165 Report

Quoted By: >>42364199

>>42364072
>>42364086
You're forced to lose all your progress if you use Bank to get duplicate Pokemon. With profiles you can just start up a new game and move it to your main file without even losing anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:45:46 No.42364175 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364014
It’s strange that Gamefreak does a bunch of convenience changes and then removes the GTS. That thing was extremely hands off, you could literally throw up a starter before you stopped playing and get almost anything you needed the next time you played. I don’t know, I liked it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:46:03 No.42364178 Report

Quoted By: >>42364232

>>42364152
Yeah it's not like there are people trading all over the internet, streamers doing give aways, entire communities dedicated to trading, or even people that trade on /vp/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:47:01 No.42364187 Report

Quoted By:

>>42360116
>handheld games looked comparative to the other games on the console

Not, they won't
I mean.. Look at the FFVI on GBA and then look at the FR/LG/R/S/E or even on DS there already was a plenty of 3D games when pokemon-games was still in 2D.
Same story about pokemons on 3DS.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:47:37 No.42364195 Report

Quoted By: >>42364263 >>42364307

>>42364125
>>42364129
Again, you're missing the whole fucking point. Trading with people directly in order to get 200 Pokemon is incredibly tedious and time-consuming. Hell, even using the GTS isn't much better.
The entire business strategy is to wear down your patience and urge you to drop money for the DLC. It's literally the same psychological manipulation used by gacha devs. Why spend dozens of hours trying to find people to trade with when you can spend a measly $30 and just go catch them all within minutes? It's so simple, goy!
>>42364121
My friend didn't buy a copy of the game solely so I could trade with him and move Pokemon to a new file. He bought the game to play himself and I just hit him up one day asking "hey, you got an hour to spare?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:47:51 No.42364198 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364142
>Deposit pokemon on GTS
>Do whatever I was doing anyway for 10 minutes
>It's done
Vs
>Asking 12 times for a mareep in the general
>Drowned out by all the people making mutual beneficial trades or also wanting old mons
>Finally find someone
>Connect with wrong person
>Trade gets sniped

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:47:52 No.42364199 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364165
that only applies to some things like starters, you’d still need to play the entire game and then some to get legendaries regardless of using bank/home or the hypothetical gts profile method

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:51:46 No.42364232 Report

Quoted By: >>42364263 >>42364307

>>42364178
Doesn't matter, you're looking for 200 pokemon
With giveaways thats at least 100 giveaways to wait in
100 trades to individually input
Your only hope is someone just mass trading you oldmons
How many people are going to do that vs people that need that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:55:28 No.42364259 Report

Quoted By: >>42364286

>>42358185
>>We want our old features back!!
>>Okay. Apricorns are back
The old features people want back are stuff like following pokemon and secret bases and that stuff hasn't been confirmed to be returning. Nobody gives a shit about apricorns
>>We want waifus!!
>>Okay. Here are some new waifus
>>We want more pokemon!!
Klara for the most part is pretty well received
>>Okay. Here are 200 mons
people want the entire natdex back
>>We want battle facilities!
>>Okay. Here is a whole area designated for battles
To be fair we don't know anything about the. For all we know, they could be battle tower clones with no gimmicks making the different from regular battle tower
>>We want a balanced meta
>>Okay. Here is a completely fair and ever-evolving meta
I haven't been keeping up with competitive but I heard the meta isn't balanced at all
>>We want more dungeons and caves to explore
>>Okay. Here are some more caves
>>We want the wild area to be bigger
>>Okay. Here are more areas
Yet again, we don't know much about them. We haven't much footage of the new areas and dungeons
>>We want more new legendaries!!
>>Okay. Here are some more new legendaries
>>We want a longer campaign!!
>>Okay. Here is more campaign
>>We don't want Masuda directing!!
>>Okay. Here's a new person.
I guess you're right about these
>>We want lower prices!!
>>Okay. Here's the cheapest third version in history
For people who buy both base versions and third versions, yes, it's cheaper. But for people who buy only third versions, no, it's not cheaper

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:55:57 No.42364263 Report

Quoted By: >>42364272

>>42364232
>>42364195
You know, we don't even know how many of the 200 are going to be available in the new areas. They could easily leave a chunk available only through transfer from the old games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:56:50 No.42364272 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364263
That would be even more devilish. Now you have to pay for the DLC and Home in order to catch everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 09:57:41 No.42364286 Report

Quoted By: >>42364316 >>42364356

>>42364259
>people want the entire natdex back
I'm betting that they're already working on an Expansion Pass 2, which will add in the remaining missing Pokemon.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Home brings back some, as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:00:04 No.42364307 Report

Quoted By: >>42364316 >>42364365

>>42364195
>>42364232
How would you feel if Home has a GTS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:01:36 No.42364316 Report

Quoted By: >>42364338

>>42364286
I can guarantee there will be a second pass. Or maybe even a third if they can really stretch things out. People will literally eat up anything GF shits out, the first pass will sell millions, and they'd be fools not to develop further ones.
>>42364307
It would still be a hassle to utilize because you would have to close the game and open a separate application to access the GTS instead of having it built into the game's pause menu.
I suppose it's technically better, but at that point just add the fucking thing into the main game as a free update or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:03:34 No.42364338 Report

Quoted By: >>42364353

>>42364316
>I suppose it's technically better, but at that point just add the fucking thing into the main game as a free update or something.
I could see them adding a GTS to Home, and then adding an interface in game to interact with it if you have an active Home subscription.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:05:02 No.42364353 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364338
Will Home actually be a part of the game or a different application on the Switch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:05:26 No.42364356 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364286
Probably a "feature" for DP remakes
Will make out it's a backdown because they listened to fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:06:31 No.42364365 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364307
The same because Home will be like $20

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:11:51 No.42364407 Report

Quoted By: >>42364456

>>42358834
>paying $60 for a game and $30 for the DLC that has shit that should've been in the base game
gee anon, I don't know why people would be upset

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:18:20 No.42364456 Report

Quoted By: >>42364479 >>42364635

>>42364407
>$40 for the DLC that has shit that should've been in the base game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:20:28 No.42364479 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364456
oh, I wasn't aware that I could just buy the SwSh DLC and play it on it's own, since appearantly I don't need the base game to play it. #ThankYouGamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:36:49 No.42364624 Report

Quoted By:

>>42362498
wait let me put that in a format your retarded twitterass can understand
Because it wasn't a cut. The Pokemon were still in the code.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:37:42 No.42364633 Report

Quoted By: >>42365786 >>42365910

>>42363573

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:37:48 No.42364635 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364456
It was $40 for a FULL game if you weren't a consoomer and had the patience to wait a year or two for the third version you KNEW was coming because it was established to be a franchise staple.
If you were waiting for Pokemon Gun/Axe/Lance/cocks then guess what, fork over the $90 goy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 10:40:20 No.42364650 Report

Quoted By:

>Okay here's a whole area dedicated to battles
my problem is I expect it'll just be another tower clone, instead of having multiple styles.
>We we want more dungeons and a bigger wild area
my problem is I'm not convinced it won't be the exact same size as the main game's wild area, and the cave shot we saw won't just be a small portion of it
>We want a longer campaign
I'm still not convinced it won't just be 3 straight hours of dialogue with no battles whatsoever since you can jump into it whenever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 12:23:07 No.42365416 Report

Quoted By: >>42365938

orbeetle? isn't that a girl's pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 12:23:34 No.42365418 Report

Quoted By:

>>42358224
Yeah, anon needs to run the calculations again. $90 is certainly not the cheapest third version.
Unless he's not talking about the price...

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 13:15:05 No.42365731 Report

Quoted By:

>>42360273
>having friends who are stupid enough to buy this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 13:23:47 No.42365786 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364633
>>42358185
>>42363560
>>42363573
Locomotive111 stop

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 13:44:07 No.42365910 Report

Quoted By:

>>42364633
Cosmos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 13:48:43 No.42365938 Report

Quoted By: >>42365976

>>42365416
How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 13:51:08 No.42365962 Report

Quoted By:

>>42358185
>We want more pokemon!!
All. For $40.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 13:52:29 No.42365976 Report

Quoted By:

>>42365938
and here I thought you fags are /m/

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