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do people really hate these games?

Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 22:56:25 No.42374189 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42374222 >>42375264 >>42375318

cutscenes are a bit much, but UltraMoon is my go to game when i want to just play through a pokemon game. artstyle is great, and stuff like stickers,island scan, and distress calls are pretty fun. some trials are fun, too. i havent played the original sun/moon so idk why people feel so sour about these games. what am i missing here?

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 22:58:04 No.42374222 Report

Quoted By: >>42374234

>>42374189
>my go to game when i want to just play through a pokemon game
>cutscenes are a bit much
I want you to read your post again.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 22:58:44 No.42374234 Report

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>>42374222
i just mash A while watching something else :^)

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:00:59 No.42374280 Report

Quoted By: >>42374377

It's the hardest pokemon game so it would be one of the best without all the cutscenes

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:02:49 No.42374323 Report

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>>42374234
Might as well play something else.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:03:14 No.42374330 Report

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It's a better experience overall, so long as you don't care about Lillie's bullshit. But people got burnt out on SM the first time, so if they didn't like it they won't like it again because none of the cutscenes were really removed and if they did like it then they hate the changes. I pirated both, and preferred USUM but I sure as fuck won't be playing through either for a while. And if I ever do I'm picking USUM due to a lot of extra little sidequests, I love that shit.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:06:01 No.42374377 Report

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>>42374280
It's more like it has weird spikes of difficulty depending on your team. Hau's sudden Raichu, totem Lurantis, and Ultra Necrozma can be a surprise if you don't have a good counter already in your team. But it's less hard and more that you're so used to everything else being brainless that it just trips you up once, at which point you actually try and manage to not be a fuckup, unless you picked a bunch of shitmon or had really bad team composition.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:06:40 No.42374392 Report

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> i havent played the original sun/moon
And there lies the problem or blessing i should say in your case

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:07:29 No.42374404 Report

Quoted By: >>42374453

Much better than vp says much worse than other places say
I'd say it's fairly middle of the pack but shit as a third version you've bought for improvements

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:10:44 No.42374453 Report

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>>42374404
oh yeah, i guess not paying for the thing makes it a bit more pleasant.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:10:49 No.42374454 Report

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So long as you skip the story, USUM is pretty legit. Just a shame skipping the story still takes too long.
If you wanted to read the dialogue, SM's is better, but not by a whole lot, and the gameplay itself is worse so I don't recommend that.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:11:26 No.42374466 Report

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Those games are really not that bad in the slightest.. provided you have never played the original Sun and Moon games. Because if you did play the original Sun and Moon games, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon were massive disappointments, because it's literally the same game with very minor changes.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:12:38 No.42374491 Report

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>>42374453
I mean buying it alone not after having bought SM

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:16:25 No.42374567 Report

Quoted By: >>42374845

Honestly given how we've all reacted to USUM I'm not surprised they went the DLC route instead. People who bought SM simultaneously regret purchasing USUM because it didn't add much and SM because USUM is just plain better in almost every way. It's the weirdest buyers remorse possible.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Jan 2020 23:33:54 No.42374845 Report

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>>42374567
Really I feel like the main issue with USUM is that they were sold as two games, really they're the same as any third version but they wanted to double dip with it instead

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2020 00:02:55 No.42375264 Report

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>>42374189
The biggest flaw wasn't the cutscenes, it was the Festival Plaza. If it had the old PSS it would be perfect. Even so, it's still better than XY.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2020 00:07:03 No.42375318 Report

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>>42374189
USUM do deserve to be shit on because it should've just been Pokemon Stars, especially since they fucking rewrote half the plot anyway
but when i view them as their own thing, they're some of the best games in the series. i love the changes to the battle system, all the neat little side quests and optional things, and the encounter design is probably the best they've ever done
this is also my go-to when i just want to play some pokemon. best thing imo is to do title defense against a new champion. perfect level of challenge and most of the teams are really cool

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2020 00:09:26 No.42375360 Report

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>>42375264
Fuck no it wasn't.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2020 00:21:17 No.42375537 Report

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Honestly, it’s just feels like a downgrade from the originals. The story is probably one of the shittiest compared to SM’s decent story, which wouldn’t be a bad thing if the story dialogue/cutscenes didn’t take so long that it makes you feel like you’re wasting time for a bad plot. There’s also the fact that it didn’t add much stuff compared to other third versions
>Two versions instead of a single one, when it could’ve have had the benefit of combining both version exclusive content
>The previous games had an excuse for existing since DLC wasn’t possible
>Mantine Surf is a good way to farm BP, but is that even useful now? Not to mention it’s a single minigame where stuff like HGSS included the Pokeathalon
>Alola Photo Club is dumb fun but you’re not missing out much if you ignore it. Not to mention it’s equivalent of that dress up mode in DP and BW
>Battle Agency is the single new battle facility, but is a tedious version of the Battle Factory
>Rainbow Rocket is a decent two-hour episode, but it only replaces the Looker mission which was still neat
>Ultra Warp Ride is good, but only appeals if you just want more UBs and a new piss-easy shiny hunting method
>The new UBs are only received at the end of the game. While it makes these games feel more important to the franchise, they feel barebones compared to ORAS which added 18 Megas. And they are likely not going to be transferred in future games for a while

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2020 00:27:04 No.42375603 Report

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Gameplay is better, but it still suffers from S/M unsskippable dialogue syndrome.
Like in S/M, be ready to mash A to get through all that dialogue that you can't skip. This also means that replay value for the gen 7 games are basically non-existent.

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