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Objective rival tier list

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:20:21 No.42402751 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42402868 >>42402873 >>42403119 >>42403120

I doubt anyone other than those with low iq will disagree with it.

Top tier:
Silver

High tier:
Blue/Green, Brendan/May(After ORAS improvements), Wally, Barry, Hau, Hop

Good tier:
Cheren, Bianca, Serena/Calem, Marley, Bede

Average/Meh tier:
Trace, Brendan/May (before ORAS improvements), Hugh, Gladion

Bad tier:
Tierno, Trevor, Shauna

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:27:23 No.42402848 Report

Quoted By: >>42402904 >>42402908 >>42403109 >>42403153

Blue/Silver are garbage though. I can't take these edgelords seriously when you wipe the floor with them every single time you meet and they still act cocky.
At least with Cheren/Barry they feel like real friends and rivals, they don't kiss your ass too much but they also at least acknowledge that you're basically a God compared to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:28:21 No.42402861 Report

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Silver is an embarrassment

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:28:55 No.42402868 Report

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>>42402751
>Hop, Hau above Hugh, Gladion
Nice troll

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:29:07 No.42402873 Report

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>>42402751
> Hop and Barry in high tier
> Bede in good tier
Disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:31:42 No.42402904 Report

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>>42402848
That's actually why I like Silver but not Blue. Silver actually constantly questions why he can't win against you and eventually finds his answer and grows as a character thanks to it. Especially in the remakes where you get to have a multi battle with him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:32:18 No.42402908 Report

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>>42402848
Blue is good because he gets negative character development and presumably grows up after frlg as games like sm seem to imply.

Silver is by far the rival with the best character development because he talks shit without backing it up then grows up towards the end of the game. What makes his character development so good however is how subtly its laid out. Throughout the game you kick his ass several times even as you travel to kanto, but whats weird is that even in Kanto his entire team isn’t still fully evolved, particularly his Golbat. In his very final encounter hes finally learned his lesson as evidence by his Golbat finally evolving into a Crobat. Whats even more kino is the double battle against Lance and Claire where you team up with him that happens in his final encounter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:33:57 No.42402934 Report

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>there are people in this thread who didn’t play sm or swsh and pretend they know anything about hop or hau
Swsh was a terrible game but you are not going to convince me that the rivals were bad. You are legit an unintelligent creature if you think Hop was a bad rival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:40:54 No.42403012 Report

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>Bede
>Talks shit and recieves negative character development
>pays for this by getting disqualified then he gets his closure by getting a chance to face you one last time before taking over the fairy gym
>even after that he still refuses to admit hes weaker than you and strives to better himself to that end
Whats so bad about him other than acting like a tranny once he takes over the gym?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:49:19 No.42403109 Report

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>>42402848
you don't remember well blue, he was just teasing and a bit cocky at best

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:50:28 No.42403119 Report

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>>42402751
What makes Serena/Calem good rivals?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:50:33 No.42403120 Report

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>>42402751
Pretty good list, but Gladion is better than Wally, Hau is more good tier

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:52:07 No.42403131 Report

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>>42402934
Ohmori has hit head shoved firmly up his own ass and clearly you're doing the same if you think Hop is a good character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 19:54:19 No.42403153 Report

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>>42402848
>Blue
>Edgelord
What the fuck are you on? Did you have a childhood friend that you had bants with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 20:01:15 No.42403249 Report

Quoted By: >>42403928 >>42403950

>>42403131
>no argument
How about you try telling me why exactly Hop was a bad rival? Don’t say bad writing because everything involving Hop is about as badly written as any other pokemon game. From what I can appreciate from Pokemon story, Hop had character development that was even expressed throughout the battles you have with him because of his pokemon choices and how he continues to perfect his throws.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 20:02:12 No.42403260 Report

Quoted By: >>42403268

What do you have against my wife? She tried her best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 20:02:54 No.42403268 Report

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>>42403260
Being cute doesn't make you a good rival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 20:11:38 No.42403355 Report

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>>42403119
They were pretty shit compared to you but their personality isn’t terrible and they grow to the point where they can almost battle you on equal terms as evidenced by being worthy to have a mega ring.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 20:57:27 No.42403928 Report

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>>42403249
Here's something I posted in another thread that encapsulates every reason why I fucking hate Hop:

>Overstays his welcome by a mile
>Forced upon you multiple times
>Touted as being your equal when he's actually literal trash at battling
>Despite this the game has him constantly be either one step ahead or right behind, as if he's just as good as you if not moreso, which feels undeserved
>The depressive episode feels fake because he gets over it almost immediately, and it has no real impact on him that doesn't feel minute
>Unlike Hau, who you had the option to put down over the course of the game, you have no choice but to speak fondly of him
>Causes the entire post-game mess just because he sucks at battling so much that he loses to one of the royal punchlines
>Makes you beat Zacian/Zamazenta for him. Your reward is watching the other legendary literally give itself to him after he did nothing but pet it, while the cover legendary you get still puts you through a test and makes you actually catch it
>Decides to become a professor out of fucking nowhere with no build-up to it at all
>Neglects his duties to still rematch you in the champion cup, and still talks as if he's not a professor
>Constantly rambles on about his Legend and how everyone else is just going to be a footnote or side-character in his """"Legend"""", making him look extremely self-centered and narcissistic
>He's so overtly optimistic and cheery that it feels condescending and fake. Within five minutes of seeing him I already wanted to punch him in the nuts
>Even WITH Zacian/Zamazenta his team is a fucking joke and he's still easily beaten
>He actively hinders you at worst or does nothing to help at best whenever you're forced to fight with him
>You're forced to fight him so many fucking times that you'll have battled him thrice BEFORE YOU EVEN SEE THE FIRST GYM
>Constantly comments useless shit throughout his battles, dragging them out even longer and adding nothing of value

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 20:59:29 No.42403950 Report

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>>42403249
>how he continues to perfect his throws.
>anon actually think pokeball throws are a sign of growth
Are you clinically retarded? They don't mean anything. They only serve to make him more obnoxious by making him seem like an obsessive dork with a ridiculous fantasy and detract from what little character he had by giving him "heehee so funny" quirks instead of an actually good personality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2020 21:02:14 No.42403982 Report

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'Character development' is a pseud buzzword, prove me wrong

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