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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 19:41:00 No.42418850 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42418883 >>42419412 >>42419554 >>42419772 >>42421324 >>42423901 >>42424205 >>42424247 >>42424250 >>42424665

Removing Hidden Power is a actually nerf to Lando.
He was the best user of Hidden Power Ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 19:43:02 No.42418883 Report

Quoted By: >>42418911 >>42419065 >>42419770

>>42418850
He also was the main target of hidden power ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 19:44:54 No.42418911 Report

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>>42418883
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 19:56:35 No.42419065 Report

Quoted By: >>42419535

>>42418883
lando being unable to check lando makes lando worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:13:27 No.42419332 Report

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ok retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:15:12 No.42419363 Report

Quoted By: >>42419564 >>42419653 >>42420233 >>42424169

1v1 Galarian Darmanitan vs T-Lando. Who wins?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:17:57 No.42419412 Report

Quoted By: >>42419680 >>42419770

>>42418850
>He was the best user of Hidden Power Ice.
mmm, i wonder why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:25:40 No.42419535 Report

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>>42419065
lando losing a check in lando makes lando better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:26:54 No.42419554 Report

Quoted By: >>42419770

>>42418850
>Removing Hidden Power is a actually nerf to Lando.
>He was the best user of Hidden Power Ice.
That's cause lando used hp ice to hurt lando. If you punch yourself and it hurts, are you strong for punching yourself so hard that it hurts, or weak for hurting from etting punched by yourself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:27:29 No.42419564 Report

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>>42419363
I hope the gorilla wins and keeps the throne.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:30:54 No.42419615 Report

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God I hope they don't let these things and the Tapus back into VGC. The game is so much better without them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:32:56 No.42419653 Report

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>>42419363
Darm is faster and destroys lando in one shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:34:41 No.42419680 Report

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>>42419412
Gliscor

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:41:34 No.42419770 Report

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>>42418883
>>42419412
>>42419554
HP Ice was the only reason why you would run Scarf Landorus-T, since otherwise it gets hard walled by Defensive Lando, Gliscor, Zapdos, Tangrowth, ect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:41:39 No.42419772 Report

Quoted By: >>42419878 >>42419919

>>42418850
thx to intimidate getting nerfed he got nerfed quite a lot too, Mamoswine Ice Shard should ohko him now when it cant get intimidated with Oblivious

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:48:02 No.42419878 Report

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>>42419770
You don't run Scarf for its breaking ability and HP Ice isn't even your best move against Zapdos and Tangrowth. At the end of the day you just U-turn when you expect them to go to a counter, same as always.
>>42419772
Since when did Lando enjoy 1v1ing or switching on Mamoswine to begin with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:51:01 No.42419919 Report

Quoted By: >>42422509

>>42419772
>Intimidate getting nerfed
The abilities that are now immune to Intimidate - Inner Focus, Oblivious, Scrappy, Own Tempo - are still shit. The good physical mons that get them either have better overall abilities and/or beat Lando regardless of the ability (Defiant Bisharp, Oblivious Mamoswine). The only decent thing that gets one of those abilities, is a physical attacker, and doesn't get a better ability is Scrappy Sirfetch'd, which doesn't even get any Ice moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 21:14:01 No.42420233 Report

Quoted By: >>42420281

>>42419363
Darm wins even at -1 attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 21:18:04 No.42420281 Report

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>>42420233
>Landorus ate it's yache berry
>Landorus used Superpower

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 22:05:01 No.42421030 Report

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>>42420281
>mamoswine ate his chople berry
What now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 22:11:40 No.42421156 Report

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>>42421030
How did this darmanitan turn into a mamoswine in the same turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 22:15:35 No.42421213 Report

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>Implying they won't just bring back HP in the DLC as one of the "new move tutors"

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 22:23:49 No.42421324 Report

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>>42418850
Reminder that aside from Lando itself, only Electric shitters relied on HP Ice to kill Lando, the rest of the metagame that could deal with it either 2HKO'd or even OHKO'd it through raw strength or had actual Ice moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 23:49:50 No.42422509 Report

Quoted By: >>42423929

>>42419919
>Scrappy
>Shit
God I fucking hate this board so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 23:52:50 No.42422549 Report

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>>42419770
HP Ice doesn't do shit to Zapdos or Tang. You only ran HP Ice on Landorus to hit other Landorus and the occasional Gliscor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:29:40 No.42423901 Report

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>>42418850
>lando loses the ability to check other lando
>lando is no longer checked by a couple dozen pokemon, including itself
Also, if we're not using smogon rules, lando breaks dynamax even harder than gyarados

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:31:40 No.42423929 Report

Quoted By: >>42424005 >>42424596

>>42422509
Go back and reread the post
https://www.serebii.net/abilitydex/scrappy.shtml
Then please tell me which of the Pokemon that get Scrappy are good in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:36:30 No.42424005 Report

Quoted By: >>42424038

>>42423929
Sirfetch'd

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:38:44 No.42424038 Report

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>>42424005
>go back and reread the post
>post literally says "The only decent thing that gets one of those abilities, is a physical attacker, and doesn't get a better ability is Scrappy Sirfetch'd"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:49:15 No.42424169 Report

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>>42419363
HE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:52:26 No.42424205 Report

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>>42418850
>Is a actually nerf
This is amerimutt's education system

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:55:25 No.42424247 Report

Quoted By: >>42424294

>>42418850
Only because HP Ice countered other Lando-T. Now Lando-T benefits from having Dracovish as a teammate. Besides, how many people use Scarf Lando-T instead of a more defensive build that sets rocks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:55:32 No.42424250 Report

Quoted By: >>42424269

>>42418850
Question, what is the best counter for this thing as the meta is right now? Is Dracovish/Gyarados a solid option to smack it dead before it starts being annoying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:56:39 No.42424257 Report

Quoted By: >>42424661

>>42424169
HAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:57:48 No.42424269 Report

Quoted By: >>42424291

>>42424250
Corviknight
Rotom forms
Seismitoad is a soft check

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:59:36 No.42424291 Report

Quoted By: >>42424311

>>42424269
Corviknight is actually a really good choice, assuming Mirror Armor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:59:48 No.42424294 Report

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>>42424247
Scarf was far and away the most common set in gen 7 no question.
Specifically the bulky scarf in the op, although they often had explosion or stone edge over hp ice depending on the team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:00:48 No.42424311 Report

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>>42424291
No mirror armor is crap.
No one is switching their lando into a corviknight.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:24:04 No.42424581 Report

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>>42421324
>Mamoswine can actually be immune to Intimidate now
based!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:25:28 No.42424596 Report

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>>42423929
>The abilities that are now immune to Intimidate - Inner Focus, Oblivious, Scrappy, Own Tempo - are still shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:27:19 No.42424630 Report

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>>42424596
Alright Scrappy is good enough on paper so I guess I could've worded it better. Everything else still stands though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:30:25 No.42424661 Report

Quoted By: >>42426269

>>42424257
NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:30:32 No.42424665 Report

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>>42418850
He used hp ice against other landos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:34:43 No.42424707 Report

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>>42421156
>mamoswine’s “gorilla illusions” wore off

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 04:48:08 No.42426269 Report

Quoted By: >>42426646

>>42424661
CHECKS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 05:22:39 No.42426646 Report

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>>42426269
He has plenty of checks, just no true counters.

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