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Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:22:25 No.42438813 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42438833 >>42438865 >>42438955 >>42439274 >>42439536 >>42440004 >>42442341 >>42442548 >>42443332 >>42447421

>spend an hour trying to get into a single fucking battle
>It's just some fucking cunt using paralysis and evasion spam
>Spend ten minutes trying to beat the cunt as he does nothing but waste time
>"Time is up"
>He wins despite doing fucking nothing
I HATE THIS FUCKING GAME. FUCK YOU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:24:37 No.42438833 Report

Quoted By: >>42438847 >>42438859

>>42438813
>not having at least one pokemon with an attack that can't miss
Git Gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:26:22 No.42438847 Report

Quoted By: >>42438901 >>42438904 >>42438946 >>42438994 >>42444495

>>42438833
>HURR DURR I NEED TO RELY ON FUCKING LUCK TO WIN
YOU GET GOOD YOU COCK GUZZLING CHEAP ASS CUNT
IF YOU EVER DID ANYTHING ELSE BUT POINTLESS RNG BASED FUCKING BULLSHIT YOU'D IMMEDIATELY LOSE BECAUSE YOU'RE LITERAL TRASH. THOSE KINDS OF TEAMS AREN'T EVEN GOOD THEY'RE JUST FUCKING ANNOYING.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:27:20 No.42438859 Report

Quoted By: >>42438892 >>42438956

>>42438833
>use aerial ace
>chansey lost 17% of it's HP
truly epic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:28:00 No.42438865 Report

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>>42438813
The way Pokemon statuses work proves they were never meant for competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:30:49 No.42438892 Report

Quoted By: >>42438921 >>42438922 >>42438926

>>42438859
>he doesn't know about the fighting type never miss move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:31:50 No.42438901 Report

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>>42438847
Oh my

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:32:09 No.42438904 Report

Quoted By: >>42438915

>>42438847
I'm literally saying to use a move that doesn't use RNG are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:33:22 No.42438915 Report

Quoted By: >>42439387 >>42439580

>>42438904
>JUST USE FUCKING ARIEL ACE TO KILL THE FUCKING CORSOLA-G IT'S NOT LIKE IT WON'T DO LITERALLY SCRATCH DAMAGE
OH GEE IT'S ALMOST AS IF IT DOESN'T FUCKING HELP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:33:57 No.42438921 Report

Quoted By: >>42438932 >>42445100

>>42438892
I don't think you realize how small sacred swords distribution is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:34:16 No.42438922 Report

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>>42438892
>just use kartana to cover sacred sword for blissey and smart strike for clefable
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:34:46 No.42438926 Report

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>>42438892
You mean the special move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:35:29 No.42438932 Report

Quoted By: >>42438937 >>42438952

>>42438921
>>42438922
I was talking about aura sphere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:36:03 No.42438937 Report

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>>42438932
that's even worse, do you remember chansey's special defense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:36:48 No.42438946 Report

Quoted By: >>42438960

>>42438847
60 BP is fine.
SwooSh and SwiSh feel like they were made by Smogon with all the new stupid billion BP attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:37:40 No.42438952 Report

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>>42438932
>use aura sphere
>chansey lost 17% of it's HP
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:38:14 No.42438955 Report

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>>42438813
Dude just use Lock-On LMAO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:38:23 No.42438956 Report

Quoted By: >>42438966 >>42438983

>>42438859
Nigga, Chansey is made of glass. Just do anything physical in its proximity and it will die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:38:43 No.42438960 Report

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>>42438946
Have you been fighting your cousin's freshly caught chansey with no EVs or something, 60 bp is absolute dogshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:40:04 No.42438966 Report

Quoted By: >>42445678

>>42438956
>baton passes Vaporeon with Acid Armor

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:41:51 No.42438983 Report

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>>42438956
252+ Atk Choice Band Deoxys-Attack Aerial Ace vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 183-216 (26 - 30.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:43:05 No.42438994 Report

Quoted By: >>42439070

>>42438847
>THOSE KINDS OF TEAMS AREN'T EVEN GOOD THEY'RE JUST FUCKING ANNOYING.
Says the one who lost to those teams. It looks like they are good. Even though beating a retard like you isn't a great achievement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:44:23 No.42439002 Report

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E-sport ready series btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:49:21 No.42439035 Report

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>play format with evasion allowed
>complain about evasion
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 05:55:16 No.42439070 Report

Quoted By: >>42439113 >>42439137

>>42438994
>IF I WIN THAT MEANS THEY GOOD
That's not how it fucking works.
If your team only has a 10% chance to win the game and you just manage to land on the 10% chance then the team isn't fucking good, you're just extremely lucky.

Evasion just boils everything down to luck. Only retards think luck-based teams are good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:00:07 No.42439100 Report

Quoted By: >>42439112

>posting a competitive thread on /vp/ and expecting other than mouthbreathing retards to reply
That was your first mistake, OP. Now you got actual downies saying Chansey isn't tanky here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:01:30 No.42439112 Report

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>>42439100
If I'm being honest I did it only to vent some anger. It's better than just screaming into a pillow or punching a hole in the wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:01:31 No.42439113 Report

Quoted By: >>42439159

>>42439070
Why should they be good if I win? Quote me right you faggot.

By the way, Pokemon is heavy RNG based. From IVs to catch rates to the battle system itself. If you can't handle a major part of the game, fucking leave vp and go play chess or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:06:16 No.42439137 Report

Quoted By: >>42439146 >>42441395

>>42439070
Yes, but this Chansey used skill to maximize the margin of luck it was ahead by.
>If your team only has a 10% chance to win the game and you just manage to land on the 10% chance then the team isn't fucking good, you're just extremely lucky.
If your team has a 90% chance to win the game and you just manage to land on the 90% chance, that’s no longer being lucky. That’s intentionally putting yourself in a position where you’re more likely to win. Aka skill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:06:59 No.42439141 Report

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>About to win a game after 30 fucking minutes of wearing down this stupid fucking ball of ice
>Sheer Cold
>Lose because of a 30% fucking chance
I KEEP SCREAMING BUT GOD DOESN'T HEAR ME

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:08:17 No.42439146 Report

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>>42439137
>Using Minimize means you're skilled at the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:10:27 No.42439159 Report

Quoted By: >>42439191

>>42439113
>and go play chess
>a game where one side is always at an advantage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:14:40 No.42439191 Report

Quoted By: >>42442213

>>42439159
But you know white has the advantage so no RNG. That's what you wanted right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:14:40 No.42439192 Report

Quoted By: >>42439224

maybe try taunt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:18:30 No.42439224 Report

Quoted By: >>42439955

>>42439192
>switch into taunt user as chansey minimizes
>taunt missed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:24:57 No.42439274 Report

Quoted By: >>42439291 >>42442215

>>42438813
Protip, haze doesn't miss you loser fagboy go catch a toxapex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:26:53 No.42439291 Report

Quoted By: >>42439307 >>42439395 >>42439518

>>42439274
>Enemy Double-Team user used Taunt!
>You can't use Haze because of the Taunt!
I've tried, trust me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:30:16 No.42439307 Report

Quoted By: >>42439319

>>42439291
Get a Machamp with no guard you faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:32:15 No.42439319 Report

Quoted By: >>42439369

>>42439307
Machamp is fucking shit and doesn't even beat the best minimize abusers like Clefable and Mega Sableye.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:36:25 No.42439363 Report

Quoted By: >>42442308 >>42442773

Know what I hate fucking more than evasion? Fucking critical hits. I hate them more because I know they're kind of necessary to help beat bulky walls but GOOD FUCKING GOD is it infuriating when you're about to win and the RNG just decides to tell you to go fuck yourself.

I don't care about focus energy strats since that takes good prediction and stuff to pull off and it's at the very least not relying on the rng, I just really hate it when I'm about to win and the gods just decide to tell me "nah, go fuck yourself kiddo"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:37:09 No.42439369 Report

Quoted By: >>42439377 >>42439387 >>42439518

>>42439319
>Thread is about Chansey using minimize being to strong
>Tell OP how to beat it
>B-but your solution doesn't check all the other walls in the game!
Yeah that's why you have a team of 6 Pokemon you faggot. Get used to not having a check for everything or stop playing Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:38:42 No.42439377 Report

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>>42439369
lmao machump

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:39:34 No.42439387 Report

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>>42439369
Actually, OP clarified what he was fighting here >>42438915

He was fighting a Galarian Corsola spamming what I assume to be double team, that just managed to get lucky enough to avoid the first few hits for it to snowball out of control. The image in the OP is probably just because it accurately conveys the kind of bullshit evasion normally feels like. Also it's just a funny picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:40:26 No.42439395 Report

Quoted By: >>42439406

>>42439291
>Two moveslots wasted for the purposes of evasion
So just stall it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 06:42:12 No.42439406 Report

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>>42439395
The problem is that now that the game has a ten minute timer instead of the older 30 minute one you can't really do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 07:01:35 No.42439518 Report

Quoted By: >>42442083

>>42439369
>Learn how to play without a check to every mon faggot!
>Just use Machamp, faggot!
This is one of the most idiotic responses you could've came up with. Fucking underages thinking they are so smart when they can't even be sure of their sexuality and keep projecting their faggotry. You don't need to "check or not check X Pokémon", you retarded fanfic meta bitch, you need to think how your team is going to work against different playstyles and strategies.
>>42439291
If you can't haze because you are getting taunted first, use a Taunt user yourself. Stallmons are usually slow, and you can even check speed-boosting baton-passers taunting right after they pass the boost, not letting them minimize on you.
If you are still worried of getting outplayed on your switch in, run a mental herb on your Taunt user - although if you get outplayed twice it's gonna be your fault for being bad. Taunt Mew (even though it's hard to get due to the stupid Pokéball plus) with 100 Base Speed is an excellent stallbreaker which also doubles as a defensive Pokémon with access to healing (Recover), and it's not dead weight against offensive matches (if you give it Will-o-Wisp). You should always give it one offensive move (Psychic), which might also help you scare Toxapex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 07:04:11 No.42439536 Report

Quoted By: >>42439862 >>42441682

>>42438813
you know that dynamaxed moves never miss, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 07:11:50 No.42439580 Report

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>>42438915
Have you tried defensive Arcanine with Roar? It might do the trick. Roar doesn't have an accuracy check, and hits both Ghosts types and through substitute. G-Corsola usually runs Will-o-Wisp too, so that's one less move to worry about.

If you are worried it's gonna be your opponents last Pokémon, being unable to Roar it and thus stalling you to eternity, stall it out yourself breeding an Arcanine with Morning Sun too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 08:04:58 No.42439862 Report

Quoted By: >>42442344

>>42439536
>Protect
>Recover
>Protect
>Dynamax Ends
>Enemy goes back to stalling
As a guy who uses evasion myself it's an insultingly easy way to deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 08:22:05 No.42439955 Report

Quoted By: >>42439962

>>42439224
>not leading with taunt against minimzie teams
Ok downie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 08:23:42 No.42439962 Report

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>>42439955
If you somehow already know the opponent has Minimize/Double Team on everything they have, then you're obviously psychic and at that point you could just read their mind and win the game that way.

Checkmate bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 08:31:41 No.42440004 Report

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>>42438813
Git gud faggot, get moves that can't miss, pokemon with abilities that make them ignore stats or always land attacks, force them to switch with moves, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 13:05:13 No.42441395 Report

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>>42439137
Wow you are retarded
There are various kind of Pokemon skills: teambuilding, predicting, not messing up, don't give into stress etc
And this means you will just outsmart your opponent on teambuilding, but again that is mainly sheer matchup luck, with such gimmicky teams.
It just means you don't play for fun, but to win in a really childish way, not relying on your batteling capabilities, but a mere hope that the percentage will save your likely incompetent ass
You don't have enough skill to get to a certain percentage of winning unless via semi cheating methods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 14:13:04 No.42441682 Report

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>>42439536
Stall teams have a better matchup against Dmax than most other teams

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 15:23:55 No.42442083 Report

Quoted By: >>42443316

>>42439518
>fanfic meta
stopped reading here, have sex VGCtard

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 15:46:25 No.42442213 Report

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>>42439191
kek he never replied

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 15:46:39 No.42442215 Report

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>>42439274
Could also just toxic them, it never misses

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 16:02:09 No.42442308 Report

Quoted By: >>42443516

>>42439363
I have this Greedent set that can take almost anything after Stockpile or Stuff Cheeks, and it’s often right after I use one or the other that the opponent crits and my lower speed screws me out of any chance of a comeback with Body Press

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 16:07:11 No.42442341 Report

Quoted By: >>42444453

>>42438813
>Roar/Whirlwind
>Dynamax Moves
>Using taunt before it sets up
>playing doubles, the mode the game is balanced around, where you'd have twice as many turns to attack Chansey both during and after its setup
>using physical moves that don't miss
Evasion isn't a very good strategy. It, on average, produces more losses than wins. The people running evasion aren't doing it to win, they're doing it to make you mad. Don't give them what they want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 16:07:38 No.42442344 Report

Quoted By: >>42443446

>>42439862
You do realize dynamax doesn't get totally nullified by protect right

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 16:26:44 No.42442548 Report

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>>42438813
That’s what you get for buying Swsh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 16:51:57 No.42442773 Report

Quoted By: >>42444612

>>42439363
it's a factor you must consider

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 17:40:06 No.42443316 Report

Quoted By: >>42443390 >>42444489

>>42442083
I pick camomons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 17:41:46 No.42443332 Report

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>>42438813
What game are you even playing? Dynamax moves never miss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 17:45:13 No.42443390 Report

Quoted By: >>42444473

>>42443316
What is that? You get to choose your mons types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 17:49:21 No.42443446 Report

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>>42442344
Do you really think that chip damage is going to seriously hurt a stallmon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 17:50:01 No.42443452 Report

Quoted By: >>42443488 >>42444486 >>42444612 >>42444984

Paralysis, Sleep, Confusion, Evasion are all in the game. They are perfectly valid strategies and if you lose, then you simply were outplayed.

Go outside and have sex or play football lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 17:53:04 No.42443488 Report

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>>42443452
Sleep and Paralysis I'll agree on but Confusion has been nerfed into the ground because of the bullshit RNG it used to be, which is a sign of how stupid it was, and Evasion is just the "I'm Bad But Hoping RNGesus Saves My Ass" the team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 17:55:28 No.42443516 Report

Quoted By: >>42444391

>>42442308
Unrelated to the topic at hand but I want to fucking try this what's the set

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 19:16:33 No.42444391 Report

Quoted By: >>42444998

>>42443516
I don’t have it on hand but as far as I can remember it’s:

Greedent @ Figy Berry(more of a chance that I can use Stuff Cheeks than Sitrus Berry)
Relaxed Nature
Ability: Cheek Pouch
- Body Press
- Gyro Ball/Crunch
- Stuff Cheeks
- Stockpile
252 HP/252 Def/4 SpD/0 Spe
0 IVs in Speed

He’s surprisingly bulky and I’ve thought about changing the set so he can take special hits better
Gyro Ball is if you choose to run 0ivs in speed and can outright kill Mimikyu if you’re ready for it. I’ve even retaliated against Darmanitan a couple times after tanking Icicle Crash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 19:23:13 No.42444453 Report

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>>42442341
>>Dynamax Moves
Why do people keep suggesting this? Do you really think Dmax is going to just break stall just like that?
>>playing doubles, the mode the game is balanced around, where you'd have twice as many turns to attack Chansey both during and after its setup
Cool, but we’re not talking about doubles
>>using physical moves that don't miss
You’re right. Aerial Ace just tears them apart

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 19:25:21 No.42444473 Report

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>>42443390
The Pokémon’s type changed according to the first two moves on it. For example, Darmanitan is an ice type but if you put the first two moves as Flare Blitz and Earthquake then it becomes a Fire/Ground type

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 19:26:23 No.42444486 Report

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>>42443452
Evasion is a crutch. Any remotely decent team shouldn't have to bank on misses to win.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 19:26:38 No.42444489 Report

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>>42443316

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 19:28:16 No.42444495 Report

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>>42438847
It's a turn based JRPG. RNG is a fundamental part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 19:40:13 No.42444612 Report

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>>42443452
Sleep was the first one to get nerfed because it was too good, paralysis and confusion more recently.
The only one not nerfed were evasion and accuracy and even than most of the official tournaments straight up ban moves that let's you stall out.
>>42442773
It's a factor you might consider my ass, you can be fighting a scrub with fucked EVs and still lose just because they crit while dmaxing, as there's pretty much no way you can recover from that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 20:15:48 No.42444984 Report

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>>42443452
Pretty sure gamefreak has gone out of their way to nerf all those except evasion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 20:17:00 No.42444998 Report

Quoted By: >>42445639

>>42444391
Fucking glorious.
Thanks anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 20:26:18 No.42445100 Report

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>>42438921
There's also vital throw. But it's reduced priority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 21:18:34 No.42445639 Report

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>>42444998
No prob

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 21:22:37 No.42445678 Report

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>>42438966
>baton pass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jan 2020 23:52:57 No.42447421 Report

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>>42438813
>He doesn't have Stomp

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