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How will the meta change?

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:40:08 No.42732215 View View Reply Original Report

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Be it VGC or any tier of Smogon. How will these new mons affect the meta?

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:42:41 No.42732237 Report

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>>42732215
mythicals are banned iirc. idk about legendaries
incineroar is definitely going to be used a lot again. blastoise will be a huge threat too

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:44:53 No.42732253 Report

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Ubers will surely benefit since the existing tier is basically Zacian Zamazenta Eternatus Darmanitan and Dynamax.

I think some monotypes will be happy, especially Fighting.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:47:21 No.42732284 Report

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>>42732215
Incineroar will run VGC again especially with Dynamax at its disposal now

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:48:55 No.42732301 Report

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>>42732215
expect to see gastrodon on every team now with baracat and toise everywhere

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:49:50 No.42732309 Report

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>>42732215p
None of them will be usable in VGG I think.
They only allow mons in the regional dex.

For OU, I think Incineroar will legitimately have a place. OU is lacking in solid ghost resists, taunt wisp let's it beat bulk up Corviknight, and heavy dooty boots are also a huge boon.
Zeroara is gonna fuck shit up. Electric resists basically don't exist besides Ferrothorn and Seismitoad, and it gets coverage for both.
Keldeo is ridiculous with all the good grasses gone and it gets air slash now to beat them anyway. Toxapex gets muscled through with taunt calm mind.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:50:35 No.42732320 Report

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>>42732284
Will Incineroar benefit from Dynamax more than other Pokemon?

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:52:36 No.42732344 Report

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>>42732237
Why are mythicals banned at all? They mostly have 600 BST and half of them have 100 in each stat which actually would make the meta a lot more exciting since those mythicals could be in many different ways for speed, tanking, SpAtk, Atk, or HP unlike most other pokemon.

Legendaries that don’t get banned are more disruptive to the meta than Mythicals who are usually not even as good as pseudo legendaries.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:54:48 No.42732366 Report

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For singles:
>Venusaur
Probably too strong for UU, but will be niche in OU: It needs solid team support because killing Dragapult is hard, as well as other threats like Tyranitar being annoying.Could be alright though
>Mewtwo/Solgaleo/Lunaala/Necrozma forms/Marshadow
Ubers, probably good there except Solgaleo & Necrozma Dawn Wings
>Zeraora
Really, really good now. No ground/flying mons significantly reduces the 4MSS it suffered from, its speed tier is godlike & outspeeds Pult, it has all the moves it needs to break past key threats ( Fire Punch for Ferro, GKnot for Toad ). Honestly it could even turn out to be too good now, but I wouldn't say so quite yet.
Keldeo is gonna be really good against any non Pex builds. Cobalion might be niche but it has fierce competition in its role with Kommo-O. It has a less shit matchup against Clefable, Taunt & Volt Switch over Virizion I doubt will do much but may be good in UU, although Doublade is gonna make that hard.
Too lazy for the rest.
Fuck Melmetal's bulk.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:56:00 No.42732380 Report

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>>42732344
The logic is that "not everyone can get them due to limited events so it's an unfair advantage."

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:58:07 No.42732407 Report

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Pretty much only things here that wont do well is Verizion and Decidueye

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 04:59:58 No.42732427 Report

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Zeraora will probably get banned from stabmons because of Bolt Beak. Might fly under since Hippowdon rapes it, but I don't like it's chances.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 05:01:02 No.42732438 Report

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>>42732407
Owlcucks on suicide watch, as usual.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 05:09:00 No.42732516 Report

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>>42732215
I need this thing so I can fuck Peliper/Ferrothorn faggotry.
Would do well too against Toxishit and Shitviknight

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 05:16:21 No.42732606 Report

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Mewtwo and Lunala are looking pretty fucking good right now.

Former gets nasty plot and hurricane, so it can quickly sweep with max airstream and prevent revenge killing with max mindstorm. The latter gets heavy duty boots to preserve shadow shield, as well as now getting hex which works really well on a team with Eternatus to set tspikes... and psychic stab to punish opposing Eternatus who want to remove said spikes.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 05:27:34 No.42732703 Report

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>>42732516
Muh boy is finally finna get the place eat the top of the meta he deserves!

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 05:43:48 No.42732833 Report

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>>42732344
>Why are mythicals banned at all?
Gamefreak has no idea what makes a Pokemon strong. They might legitimately think that marking a mon as legendary or mythical actually makes a difference in its viability.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 06:54:14 No.42733381 Report

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>>42732407
>>42732438
It's honestly hilarious how much Decidueye gets cucked every step of the way.
He can't even catch a break in the anime, where he loses to his own pre-evo.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 07:06:54 No.42733449 Report

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>>42733381
I’m only shocked it *keeps happening*. You would think he would finally get something nice in a new gen, but nope.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 07:12:58 No.42733497 Report

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>Dragon Dance on Black Kyurem and Dusk Mane

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 07:13:02 No.42733499 Report

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>>42732215
Forget that, what about the transfer-only moves?

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 07:18:45 No.42733533 Report

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>>42732215
How good are some of the legendary?

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