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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 14:50:50 No.42747530 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42747578 >>42747588 >>42747591 >>42747817 >>42751151 >>42751194 >>42753075 >>42754026 >>42754215 >>42756439 >>42758912 >>42759873 >>42760286

He's broken as fuck, though it gets countered by Melmetal.
Will he be the first GAD to be Ubers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 14:58:42 No.42747578 Report

Quoted By: >>42747585

>>42747530
Literally just git gud, brainlet.
You'll also whine when Volcarona joins the meta?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 14:59:59 No.42747585 Report

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>>42747578

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:00:26 No.42747588 Report

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>>42747530
Just scald him, same with Melmeltal.
What a trash core when neither wants to take the most common attack in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:00:38 No.42747591 Report

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>>42747530
I could see them banning Kyu-B and Melmetal as they both heavily restrict teambuilding options because of how good they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:01:15 No.42747596 Report

Quoted By: >>42747607 >>42751025

I'm retarded what's GAD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:02:11 No.42747604 Report

Quoted By: >>42747702

>>42747588
Pex loses to both, and Melmetal carry Rest along with being paired up with cleric Clef.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:02:17 No.42747607 Report

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>>42747596
Gorilla-armed Dragon, like Druddigon and Kommo-o

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:08:11 No.42747644 Report

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>>42747588
>he hasn't seen the high ladder replays of Toxapex getting 51% flinched to death before it can get an attack off

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:16:43 No.42747702 Report

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>>42747604
>>42747604
What set is that? The ones I see mostly use Double Iron Bash, Thunder Punch/Darkest Lariat, Superpower/Dynamic Punch, Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:31:29 No.42747817 Report

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>>42747530
He should have been Ubers from the start.

What moves do we need to give Suicune so that it finally gets into Ubers where it belongs? Leave its stats as is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:34:21 No.42747839 Report

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>>42747817
every special attack and quiver dance. and maybe cosmic power just because

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:36:54 No.42747859 Report

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>>42747817

Cotton Guard but for special defense. Maximum B U L K.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:37:59 No.42747871 Report

Quoted By: >>42759200

>Father! Is it...over?
>At long last. No box legendary stays in OU forever, my son.
>I see...only C rank in Ubers...before...me...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:39:05 No.42747877 Report

Quoted By: >>42747974 >>42751888

>>42747702
>darkest lariat
>superpower
>dynamic punch
noob traps. Only attacking moves you need on Melmetal are DIB, Body Press, and maybe Tpunch/EQ for coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:40:28 No.42747885 Report

Quoted By: >>42747898 >>42747926 >>42753131

>>42747839
So basically
>Suicune @ Choice Specs
>Ability: Pressure
>Timid Nature
>252 SpA/252 Spe/4 HP
>Hydro Pump/Surf
>Energy Ball
>Earth Power/Power Gem
>Calm Mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:41:54 No.42747898 Report

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>>42747885
why would you run calm mind if you could also give it quiver dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:45:19 No.42747926 Report

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>>42747885
What kind of retard uses surf, of all things

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:49:39 No.42747955 Report

Quoted By: >>42748940 >>42761195

Is Freeze-Dry worth it on Kyu-B?
Royally fucks up toad but that’s about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:50:22 No.42747962 Report

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>>42747817
A new move that gives it Wonder Guard for the rest of the match, and then give said move to a shitmon with a ton of weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:52:02 No.42747974 Report

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>>42747877
Self-Destruct is actually a pretty decent filler move on Band as it guarantees a kill on Rotom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:52:46 No.42747980 Report

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>>42747817
Give it a signature move that lets it set up Aurora Veil without Hail.
Maybe not Ubers but would certainly make it skyrocket in utility and would make thematic sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 15:57:30 No.42748024 Report

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>>42747817
Give it an ability that lets it hit every type that's weak to ice super effective with water type moves and this>>42747980

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 17:09:56 No.42748528 Report

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>>42747817
>What moves do we need to give Suicune so that it finally gets into Ubers
Soft boiled/Roost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 17:46:55 No.42748835 Report

Quoted By: >>42748943 >>42750328 >>42754033 >>42755737

>/vp/
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE BAN TOXAPEX BAN FERROTHORN BAN CORVIKNIGHT I CAN’T BEAT THEM
>Also /vp/
>Yeah, Kyurem-B with Dragon Dance and usable Ice STAB is fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 17:57:44 No.42748925 Report

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>>42747817
Poison Heal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 18:00:07 No.42748940 Report

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>>42747955
If you need to break through Toad run SubDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 18:00:24 No.42748943 Report

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>>42748835
t. shitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 20:25:13 No.42750315 Report

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>>42747926
Tapu Fini?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 20:26:55 No.42750328 Report

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>>42748835
t. stallfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 20:43:07 No.42750466 Report

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>>42750315
lol no

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 21:36:19 No.42751025 Report

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>>42747596
Guts A Dick
hahaha pwned!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 21:43:01 No.42751106 Report

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>>42747817
Aurora Veil with Snow Warning. Obviously Snow Warning would have to get a bonus effect of hail immunity, like how all sand/hail boosting abilities work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 21:46:25 No.42751151 Report

Quoted By: >>42751294 >>42757797

>>42747530
Certainly going to get quickbanned. There were more answers to this thing in Natdex than in current OU and it got the boot before even Dynamax did. Both mixed and DD individually beat like 90% of the game by themselves and there isn't anything that counters both.

Kyu-B's stint in OU was always dependent on it learning no moves, and that era of Pokemon is over. Back to being a low tier uber along with White.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 21:49:39 No.42751191 Report

Quoted By: >>42754016 >>42754042

This generation has been kind to GADs, Kommo-o is also an amazing Pokémon and Clangorous Soul isn't even the best thing it got.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 21:49:47 No.42751194 Report

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>>42747530
Absolutely. This thing is unquestionably busted.
I'm just surprised that they haven't banned it already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 21:58:10 No.42751294 Report

Quoted By: >>42751682

>>42751151
Wasn’t it quick banned in natdex OU because of Z?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 22:03:44 No.42751350 Report

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/GAD/vival when? We missed the anniversary

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 22:29:31 No.42751682 Report

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>>42751294
Something more broken than Dynamax getting one of its like three broken sets downgraded (Power Herb replacing Z) isn't going to make enough of a difference to keep Kyu-B unbanned in OU, especially when OU is much lower power level than NatDex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 22:48:24 No.42751888 Report

Quoted By: >>42751979 >>42752211

>>42747877
Doesn’t get EQ tho. Dynamic punch is only used by people that want to sauce. But yeah DIB is pretty much what you want to click. I think thunder punch is crucial for Corvi since it pp stalls DIB, hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 22:55:35 No.42751979 Report

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>>42751888
Melmetal does get EQ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 23:14:42 No.42752211 Report

Quoted By: >>42758801

>>42751888
It only learns Earthquake in LGPE and not in SS, for some reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 00:34:19 No.42753075 Report

Quoted By: >>42753362

>>42747530
Did he got DD?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 00:40:41 No.42753131 Report

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>>42747885
>Choice Specs
>Calm Mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 01:01:45 No.42753362 Report

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>>42753075
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:05:48 No.42754016 Report

Quoted By: >>42754057

>>42751191
>Kommo-o is also an amazing Pokémon and Clangorous Soul isn't even the best thing it got.
What is?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:07:21 No.42754026 Report

Quoted By: >>42754061 >>42754069 >>42754078

>>42747530
speaking of GADs, how's Kommo-o doing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:07:59 No.42754033 Report

Quoted By: >>42755935

>>42748835
In all honesty, Ferrothorn should learn Strength Sap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:08:29 No.42754042 Report

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>>42751191
Now if only Druddigon got something

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:10:12 No.42754057 Report

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>>42754016
body press, now kommo-o is one of the most used things in OU and most people run defensive
it's damn good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:10:48 No.42754061 Report

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>>42754026
He's okay. Still can't cope with his father dying, but he's getting there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:11:24 No.42754069 Report

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>>42754026
>how's Kommo-o doing?
16% usage in OU. A+ Rank in the VR thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:12:05 No.42754078 Report

Quoted By: >>42754094 >>42754103 >>42754163

>>42754026
>belly drum sets still solid
>clangorus throat spray very good
>defensive SR + body press is godly
>even DD isn't terrible
kommo-o has improved exponentially from game to game, I'm both terrified and excited to see what bullshit it gets next

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:14:05 No.42754094 Report

Quoted By: >>42754122 >>42754136

>>42754078
Kommo-o wasn't bad in Gen 7 though, in fact he was pretty damn good in UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:14:53 No.42754103 Report

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>>42754078
Clangorus Soul was pretty mediocre with SpDef fairies everywhere.
The meta shifted a lot with home though so that may change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:16:30 No.42754122 Report

Quoted By: >>42754154

>>42754094
Kommo-O is OU by usage and B+ in viability in gen 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:17:27 No.42754131 Report

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>>42747817
95BP water move that hits steel supereffectively

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:17:53 No.42754136 Report

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>>42754094
Yeah but he went from being an RU pseudo in SM to getting tutors and a great z move and shooting up to B+ in USUM to being a meta defining A+ mon in gen 8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:18:48 No.42754154 Report

Quoted By: >>42754167 >>42754188

>>42754122
>OU by usage
Wasn't that because of Soulblaze?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:19:41 No.42754163 Report

Quoted By: >>42754200

>>42754078
>defensive SR + body press is godly
Elaborate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:20:13 No.42754167 Report

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>>42754154
He also had a Sp. Def set with SR/Drain Punch/Toxic/Protect that was popular and also a Dragon Dance Life Orb set which was used a bit too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:22:46 No.42754188 Report

Quoted By: >>42759106

>>42754154
Moreso because it got Close Combat and Stealth Rock in USUM.
Kommo-o's best set was an offensive rock setter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:23:59 No.42754200 Report

Quoted By: >>42754243 >>42754255

>>42754163
>shockingly good defensive type + bulletproof in a ghost spam meta
>rocks setter that can beat every hazard remover (I guess not anymore now that mantine got defog back) and almost every hazard setter
>good defense stat + STAB on body press
>moveset is flexible enough to fit iron defense, which makes it bulkier and acts as a swords dance for body press
It's just fantastic at what it does, not a whole lot else to say about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:25:17 No.42754215 Report

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>>42747530
do people not run earth power on it anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:27:55 No.42754243 Report

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>>42754200
That's cool. Never even thought of it being good defensively, but I guess if Infernape can do it, why wouldn't Kommo-o be able to

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 02:28:39 No.42754255 Report

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>>42754200
Are preople really surprised at Kommo-o being good defensively? His stats are pretty bulky and Dragon/Fighting was always seen as a good hypothetical type (well before Fairies at least).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 04:13:37 No.42755358 Report

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>>42747817
Recovery.
Or Auto aqua ring when sent in and buff it to 1/8 hp per heal. Give it an exclusive water version black sludge copy item that can’t be knocked off (chalice of life).
Give it that ability that cleanses status randomly but call it it self purification.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 04:52:49 No.42755737 Report

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>>42748835
This but unironically.
Hyper offensive isn't autistic as stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 05:08:13 No.42755878 Report

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>>42747817
strength sap

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 05:14:12 No.42755935 Report

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>>42754033
please stop posting this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 05:20:05 No.42755996 Report

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>>42747817
Recover and Cosmic Power would do it. Hell, maybe just Recover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 05:33:38 No.42756117 Report

Quoted By: >>42758766

Reminder to all you faggots ITT K-B was banned in natdex OU before Dynamax was, yet he's still allowed in SWSH OU.

which of those two formats has Lando again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 06:13:13 No.42756439 Report

Quoted By: >>42757543

>>42747530
what's the best moveset for this guy anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 08:58:23 No.42757543 Report

Quoted By: >>42759376

>>42756439
Icicle Spear, DD, Dragon claw/Outrage just for STAB and Bolt strike. You be Spicy and go for Freeze Shock > Dragon Claw and have a Power herb. Standard 252Atk,252spe Jolly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 09:03:46 No.42757574 Report

Quoted By: >>42757627

imagine playing a fanfic meta that literally will go to shit for weeks every time something new gets added to the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 09:13:54 No.42757627 Report

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>>42757574
not really

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 09:56:24 No.42757797 Report

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>>42751151
>low tier uber

Lolno. DD and ice STAB murders ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 13:41:48 No.42758766 Report

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>>42756117
Maybe he's still in regular OU because it just got released, you fucking obsessed mouthbreather. Anybody who cries this much about Landorus is and comes up with these retarded conspiracy theories is an eternal sub-1200 shitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 13:48:45 No.42758801 Report

Quoted By: >>42758928

>>42752211
Well fuck me. Wish I'd known that sooner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 13:51:53 No.42758818 Report

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>>42747588
Holy shit coming to this board to see absolute fucking brainlets try and rationalize their shit mentalities in competative play never ceases to amuse.
Do tell, what scald user can effectively switch in to either Melmetal or Kyurem-black?
Kyurem black especially considering the thing often runs substitute

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 14:09:22 No.42758912 Report

Quoted By: >>42759116 >>42761201

>>42747530
What the fuck can Kyurem even do against Ferro, Gyro is a guaranteed OHKO after rocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 14:12:07 No.42758928 Report

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>>42758801
If you have one on cart right now you can still teach it High Horsepower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 14:44:50 No.42759106 Report

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>>42754188
Without Soulblaze it would've stayed in UU. It was only the threat of an omni-boost that allowed other sets to be prevalent, similar to G-Dram using Zen Mode instead of GS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 14:45:50 No.42759116 Report

Quoted By: >>42760767

>>42758912
With 8 HP+HDB+Pressure, it has enough HP to stall it out with Sub,

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 14:56:09 No.42759200 Report

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>>42747871
Nice reference to the Lich King

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 15:18:28 No.42759376 Report

Quoted By: >>42760715

>>42757543
>Icicle Spear
>not Icicle Crash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 16:04:21 No.42759873 Report

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>>42747530
What about Kyurem White? Is he any good this gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 16:30:19 No.42760156 Report

Quoted By: >>42760180

>>42747817
All Suicune needs to get borked is a better ability than Pressure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 16:31:55 No.42760180 Report

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>>42760156
HAHAHAHAHA
Retard.
Pressure is a huge part of what makes Suicune so good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 16:40:43 No.42760286 Report

Quoted By: >>42760779 >>42760808

>>42747530
Why is he now uber materiel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 17:21:35 No.42760715 Report

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>>42759376
anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 17:26:31 No.42760767 Report

Quoted By: >>42760787

>>42759116
>kyu-b
>pressure
Ferro shits all over kyu-b, just admit it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 17:27:24 No.42760779 Report

Quoted By: >>42761223

>>42760286
D-Dance and Icicle Spear

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 17:28:19 No.42760787 Report

Quoted By: >>42760826

>>42760767
He's talking about kyurem, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 17:29:34 No.42760808 Report

Quoted By: >>42761223

>>42760286
>Dragon Dance
>Icicle Spear
Both new additions this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 17:30:56 No.42760826 Report

Quoted By: >>42760851

>>42760787
Oh, so he's just shitposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 17:33:14 No.42760851 Report

Quoted By: >>42761051

>>42760826
Kyurem's always been viable because it can pressure stall through balance teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 17:52:45 No.42761051 Report

Quoted By: >>42761201

>>42760851
I mean sure regular Kyurem has a niche, but why bring it up itt, we're clearly discussing kyu-b.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 18:05:51 No.42761195 Report

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>>42747955
Not worth it on DD but all out attacker sets are still an option and Freeze-Dry is good on them.
>>42750315
Scald still hits Tapu Bulu

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 18:06:09 No.42761201 Report

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>>42761051
See >>42758912

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 18:07:41 No.42761223 Report

Quoted By: >>42761280 >>42761321

>>42760779
>>42760808
Icicle Spear sucks on anyone not named Cloyster. Didn’t it get Icicle Crash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 18:11:42 No.42761280 Report

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>>42761223
no, it got icicle spear
being the only useful physical move on Black Kyurem, this is a blessing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 18:14:18 No.42761321 Report

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>>42761223
If it got Icicle Crash, do you think people would be using Icicle Spear? Kyurem-Black's so strong that getting any physical Ice move is a blessing, its Icicle Spear is stronger than Weavile's Icicle Crash if you get more than 2 hits.

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