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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 04:40:13 No.42778137 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42778145 >>42778156 >>42778641 >>42779466 >>42780822 >>42780995 >>42781716

This has to be the worst Pokemon to ever be top 10 usage since Tankchomp in Gen 6.

Why do people use this piece of shit? It loses in like 90% of games and the times it does win are on broken sun teams.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 04:41:07 No.42778145 Report

Quoted By: >>42779280

>>42778137
>Fanfic meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 04:41:31 No.42778150 Report

Quoted By: >>42779491 >>42779588

why did they have to ruin the whole design with those fat baby arms.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 04:41:54 No.42778156 Report

Quoted By: >>42778180

>>42778137
It's pretty bad but some teams lack good fire resists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 04:42:50 No.42778168 Report

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Court Change, fast as shit, hits hard, and a decent movepool. Will be very good when protean comes out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 04:43:52 No.42778180 Report

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>>42778156
The best matchup I think it has is vs. teams with a fire resist core of Seimsitoad + Dragon, which isn't great.

Against Toxapex it's fucking useless and Court Change feels so counterintuitive to your game plan in a lot of times. Rapid Spin and Defog are literally better moves.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 04:53:19 No.42778250 Report

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Choice band pyro ball with u turn is actually pretty good from my experience. Theres few things that want to repeatedly switch in on CB pyro ball besides toxapex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 05:40:30 No.42778641 Report

Quoted By: >>42779469 >>42780839 >>42781633

>>42778137
New toy syndrome + the starter factor. Remember Decidueye in gen 6?

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 05:48:55 No.42778709 Report

Quoted By: >>42779276

protean is fun as fuck and court change is necessary on a lot of teams

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 07:23:15 No.42779276 Report

Quoted By: >>42780845 >>42781396

>>42778709
>protean is fun as fuck
Except it can't use it yet.
>court change is necessary on a lot of teams
It's just a clunkier to use Defog/Rapid Spin, let's be real. I'd rather use Defog Rotom most of the time. Even in sun Scarf Darmanitan is more threatening.

People just use it because it's a starter with an overhyped hazard control move.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 07:23:41 No.42779280 Report

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>>42778145
It's hilarious too when you consider Inteleon being the most used starter in doubles.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 07:51:57 No.42779429 Report

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He's a pretty good clean up mon with its speed, he'll only get better with Libero and whatever tutor moves it learns in the dlc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 07:58:53 No.42779466 Report

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>>42778137
Cinderace is a gangbangslut with no redeeming values desu. Only chads will use this Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 07:59:24 No.42779469 Report

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>>42778641
Decidueye's usage didn't last for more than a month tho. Ace has double new toy syndrome on pyro and court change, good coverage, priority in sucker punch, U-turn for muh mentum and it even has the possibility of running a surprise sub bulk up set against teams without ways to revenge kill It.

Issue is, as usual, 4 slots syndrome and lack of HA.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 08:05:35 No.42779491 Report

Quoted By: >>42780870

>>42778150
It should have had bigger hands. They're too tiny especially when compared to the feet.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 08:06:51 No.42779501 Report

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>protean

It's called LIBERO you uncultured swines

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 08:23:18 No.42779588 Report

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>>42778150
I find them pretty cute desu.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 11:48:46 No.42780822 Report

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>>42778137
Anon, if cinderace was losing as much as 90% of the time it wouldn't be one of the 10 most used pokemon in singles. Just because you are upset it is furry bait doesn't mean it is bad.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 11:51:34 No.42780839 Report

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>>42778641
Decidue was never so used so much idiot, the game has been out for 3 months and it usage just keeps rising.
It a good pokemon, get over it idiot.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 11:52:18 No.42780845 Report

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>>42779276
You are seething way to hard over this lardass

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 11:52:39 No.42780848 Report

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>>42779280
And intellion is still poop ib doubles.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 11:56:08 No.42780870 Report

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>>42779491
That's the point; it's such a natural born soccer player that it doesn't even have working hands

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 12:21:20 No.42780995 Report

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>>42778137
Court change. The only reason.
Also at 1800+ there is none aside from sun teams, so just git gud if you want to get rid of them.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 13:57:32 No.42781396 Report

Quoted By: >>42781634

>>42779276
>It's just a clunkier to use Defog/Rapid Spin, let's be real. I'd rather use Defog Rotom most of the time.
Actually it's a lot better, because not only you remove your hazard from your side, but you give them to the opponent. This means that you don't need an hazard placer, and you don't even risk to remove your placement from your side (such as reflect and light-screen) or the ones you had set on the opponent's side.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 14:41:48 No.42781633 Report

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>>42778641
>Remember Decidueye in gen 6?
no

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 14:41:52 No.42781634 Report

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>>42781396
Some situations arise where you have rocks up and your opponent has them up too and you're worse off than them. It could also be TSpike vs SR where you're screwed either way.

It's saddled on a shitmon with no longevity which fails to do its one job if it loses its item, has no defensive utility and hates switching in to most hazard setters.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 14:51:53 No.42781706 Report

Quoted By: >>42781795

>>42781634
>Some situations arise where you have rocks up and your opponent has them up too and you're worse off than them
In that case, just use your cinderace as a sweeper, since it's pretty good at it too.

>It's saddled on a shitmon with no longevity
It's fast enough to use court change before getting hit. That's the point, it can change the entire match.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 14:52:51 No.42781716 Report

Quoted By: >>42781776

>>42778137
>tankchomp was bad

lol

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 14:59:52 No.42781776 Report

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>>42781716
It was decent but it was the most used Pokemon at one point and yet nobody would call it even close to the best.

Even though it was a good Pokemon, it had a big gap between usage and viability, just like Shitterace.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 15:02:18 No.42781795 Report

Quoted By: >>42783805

>>42781706
It's not a good sweeper because it's weak and easily revenged killed.

Being fast is fine, but it doesn't safely come in on anything at all and only takea a few hits before dying. In a fat meta like Gen 8 OU it doesn't outlive the hazard setters it's supposed to oppose.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 19:11:16 No.42783805 Report

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>>42781795
>it's weak and easily revenge killed
It has a nice attack, nice speed and the ability to stab every move, also it has actually a good movepool.

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