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Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:46:55 No.42835038 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42835054 >>42835072 >>42835078 >>42835092 >>42835107 >>42835109 >>42835118 >>42835291 >>42835330 >>42835360 >>42836306 >>42836860 >>42836895 >>42837420 >>42842850

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAJAJAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:47:56 No.42835054 Report

Quoted By: >>42835103

>>42835038
whats so funny?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:47:59 No.42835056 Report

Quoted By: >>42835089 >>42835111 >>42837520 >>42840076

you can also evolve eevee into sylveon with just regular friendship boosting items now instead of having to do the camp/amie bullshit specifically

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:49:14 No.42835072 Report

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>>42835038
hey at least they fixed the problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:49:30 No.42835078 Report

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>>42835038
Good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:49:35 No.42835081 Report

Quoted By: >>42836338 >>42836827

This is a good thing anon, fuck those stupid area-based evolutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:50:26 No.42835089 Report

Quoted By: >>42835099 >>42835196 >>42840076

>>42835056
Wait so Sylveon evolves from the same value as Espeon/Umbreon now? It's just that knowing a Fairy move overrides those 2?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:50:42 No.42835092 Report

Quoted By: >>42835135 >>42835144

>>42835038
great, now they just need to make Umbreon and Espeon evolve via Moon Stone and Sun Stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:50:49 No.42835094 Report

Quoted By: >>42838057 >>42839351

>realize they've made evolution methods too convoluted
>still add ridiculous new methods in Swooshie

What did GF mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:51:09 No.42835099 Report

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>>42835089
Yes. If it doesn't know a Fairy move, it evolves into Espeon or Umbreon based on time of day. If it doe s know a Fairy move, it always evolves into Sylveon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:51:20 No.42835102 Report

Quoted By: >>42835115 >>42835126

What about Magneton, Nosepass, and Chargabug?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:51:24 No.42835103 Report

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>>42835054
That they prevented us from just using a Leaf Stone for a decade until finally retconning it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:52:01 No.42835107 Report

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>>42835038
imagine being sandwiched between their gassy butts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:52:07 No.42835109 Report

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>>42835038
good riddance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:52:14 No.42835111 Report

Quoted By: >>42840064

>>42835056
I cannot manage to increase friendship at all without camp, friendship berries/soothe bell/leveling barely seem to have any noticeable effect in gen 8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:52:26 No.42835115 Report

Quoted By: >>42836071

>>42835102
Charjabug also evolves with Thunder Stone now. I imagine they'll do the same with Magneton when it gets added in the DLC.

I wish they did this change back in Sun/Moon so I wouldn't have to play the entire fucking game with Charjabug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:52:34 No.42835118 Report

Quoted By: >>42835158 >>42835162 >>42842993

>>42835038
They need to go further:
Sun Stone -> Espeon
Moon Stone -> Umbreon
Shiny Stone -> Sylveon
Dusk Stone -> Ghost-type Eeveelution
Dawn Stone -> Eeveelution with gender differences

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:53:11 No.42835126 Report

Quoted By: >>42835653 >>42839430

>>42835102
>Magneton and Nosepass
cut
>Charjabug
thunder stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:53:51 No.42835135 Report

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>>42835092
no they don't

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:54:26 No.42835144 Report

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>>42835092
>great, now they just need to make Umbreon and Espeon evolve via Moon Stone and Sun Stone
same with cosmoem,evolving with normal levels is ridiculous (at least from gen 8 onwards)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:55:53 No.42835158 Report

Quoted By: >>42835166 >>42835191 >>42835222 >>42835661

>>42835118
What time would the Dawn Stone Evolution be? Normal? Fighting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:56:19 No.42835162 Report

Quoted By: >>42835181 >>42835206

>>42835118
Dawn stone = light type eeveelution

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:57:02 No.42835166 Report

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>>42835158
type*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:58:23 No.42835181 Report

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>>42835162
Its referred to as Awakening Stone in Japanese though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:59:00 No.42835191 Report

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>>42835158
I'd say Dragon would be better suiting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Feb 2020 23:59:26 No.42835196 Report

Quoted By: >>42835334 >>42835420 >>42836217

>>42835089
Yes. It’s retarded as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 00:00:44 No.42835206 Report

Quoted By: >>42841974

>>42835162
Shiny Stone is literally called the LIGHT Stone in Japanese in order to contrast with the DARKNESS Stone (Dusk Stone). Blame the fucking retarded SA goons who localized DP for this bizarre fuckup of Dusk & Dawn being opposites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 00:01:45 No.42835222 Report

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>>42835158
Flying or Bug. Birds and bugs are well-known for having drastic sexual dimorphism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 00:08:58 No.42835291 Report

Quoted By: >>42840548

>>42835038
I liked the area based evo though...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 00:12:14 No.42835322 Report

Quoted By: >>42836397 >>42836998 >>42839003

Eeveelutions before
>via stone
>via friendship+time
>via area
>via affection+move

Eeveelutions now
>via stone
>via friendship+time/move

Casualization

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 00:12:39 No.42835330 Report

Quoted By:

>>42835038
>cut area specific evolution methods
>keep all the trade + specific item methods

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 00:12:55 No.42835334 Report

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>>42835196
But it's really simple.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 00:13:25 No.42835338 Report

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the area based evolutions would be better if they were things like -any icy area- or -any forest area- instead of
>this single specific map that happens to have a rock sitting somewhere in it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 00:15:13 No.42835360 Report

Quoted By: >>42836139 >>42837420 >>42839293 >>42839355

>>42835038
>location based evolutions retconned to just be stones
based
>baby pokemon introduces past gen 2 still require a parent holding an incense to acquire
cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 00:19:57 No.42835420 Report

Quoted By: >>42839366

>>42835196
Except I actually prefer it this way. I no longer have to come up with a BS lore excuse for how Affection and Friendship are different. In fact I can just completely ignore Affection as an optional "easy mode" cheat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 00:39:24 No.42835653 Report

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>>42835126
So it’s safe to assume the other two will be thunderstone if they’re added in I suppose

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 00:40:26 No.42835661 Report

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>>42835158
Type change evolution?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 01:18:29 No.42836071 Report

Quoted By: >>42836233 >>42836295 >>42836841 >>42838114

>>42835115
Where does that leave Nosepass though? Vikavolt and Magnezone make sense being Thunder Stone evolutions but not Probopass, it's not part Electric type. All the Pokémon that evolve from Thunder Stones are either already Electric type, part Electric type, or become Electric type upon evolving. They've just made a new item evolution stone call it the Magnet Stone or something along those lines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 01:23:41 No.42836139 Report

Quoted By: >>42839293

>>42835360
>baby pokemon introduced past gen 2 still require a parent holding an incense to acquire
>there is no Incense corresponding to either Riolu or Toxel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 01:29:37 No.42836217 Report

Quoted By:

>>42835196
You're retarded as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 01:31:36 No.42836233 Report

Quoted By:

>>42836071
Probopass is basically an honorary Electric-type, though. It learns more Electric moves than Steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 01:36:32 No.42836295 Report

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>>42836071
>Nosepass evolves with trading holding a Metal Coat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 01:37:23 No.42836306 Report

Quoted By: >>42840070

>>42835038
Don't forget Milotic becoming another trade evolution with an item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 01:40:21 No.42836338 Report

Quoted By:

>>42835081
Yet SwSh came up with the most retarded, specific area-based evolution method.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 01:46:31 No.42836397 Report

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>>42835322
Amounts to the same thing. Areas were just stones you couldn't carry with you, and affection was basically just friendship but more retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 02:39:32 No.42836827 Report

Quoted By: >>42836849 >>42843015

>>42835081
they had soul you dumb zoom zoom

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 02:41:40 No.42836841 Report

Quoted By:

>>42836071
To be fair, it's not called the electric stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 02:42:09 No.42836849 Report

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>>42836827
Are we just throwing around zoomer whenever we want now? They were introduced in zoomer's first generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 02:44:03 No.42836860 Report

Quoted By:

>>42835038
Soul vs Soulless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 02:48:27 No.42836895 Report

Quoted By: >>42840075 >>42841950

>>42835038
Nice. But my ideal would be to have both. Keep the Moss Rock and Ice Rock in-game, and Pokemon that evolve via Leaf or Ice Stones can go there to evolve.

It creates a trade-off: you can evolve early, but it requires a Stone. Or you can wait until much later to evolve your Pokemon without using up a Stone. And in the post-game, when you're trying to fill up your Dex, you can just use these areas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 03:00:04 No.42836998 Report

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>>42835322
Streamlining isn't the same as casualization. Casualization is something like Latias/Latios being literally given to you in ORAS instead of being roaming or even just static legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 03:55:51 No.42837420 Report

Quoted By: >>42839293 >>42839355

>>42835038
People always forget the Marvel Scale for Feebas back in Gen 5 when they removed contest stats (which is silly because they still introduced a contest clone in B/W)
>>42835360
This is also what's really annoying.
What's being changed/retconned is just straight up arbitary. If they can change how -some- Pokemon evolve AND -some- Pokemon's Egg groups, why not remove incense breeding and other nonsense as well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 04:08:04 No.42837520 Report

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>>42835056
>drugging your Pokemon into loving you
Can't decide if this is based or not

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Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 04:12:56 No.42837561 Report

Quoted By: >>42837575 >>42838229 >>42842080 >>42842130

>FUCKING CASUALIZATION YOU RUINED MUH EVOLUTION METHODS
i swear no one on this board actually plays pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 04:15:25 No.42837575 Report

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>>42837561
This evolution method sounds like a fucking playground rumor. Like how to get Yoshi in Red/Blue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 05:11:11 No.42838057 Report

Quoted By: >>42838159 >>42839307

>>42835094
>lol dude just like, have your Yamask lose more than 49 of its HP in one battle, but you can't enter another battle with it, and then go under this rock rofl

>but they still haven't made an evolution caused by fainting

I will never understand Game Freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 05:19:45 No.42838114 Report

Quoted By: >>42842952

>>42836071
Evolves by level when holding a Magnet maybe? Or some bullshit by trading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 05:25:00 No.42838159 Report

Quoted By:

>>42838057
>rewarding letting your pokemon faint
for what purpose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 05:34:23 No.42838229 Report

Quoted By:

>>42837561
Fun fact: level 15 is the earliest level you can get Runerigus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 05:43:16 No.42838284 Report

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This is the same generation where they introduced Runerigus of all things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 07:27:41 No.42839003 Report

Quoted By: >>42839403 >>42839501

>>42835322
all eeveelutions should just evolve with stones like the original three
>umbreon - dusk stone
>espeon - sun stone
>sylveon - shiny stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 08:04:49 No.42839293 Report

Quoted By: >>42839355

>>42835360
>>42836139
>>42837420
Maybe it's due to some spaghetti code because before you could breed, say, two snorlax and come out with a snorlax

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 08:07:16 No.42839307 Report

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>>42838057
I'm surprised they didn't do it with Cursola, especially since it's supposed to be Sirfetch'd's version exclusive counterpart and that has a silly evolve method.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 08:12:27 No.42839351 Report

Quoted By: >>42839411

>>42835094

They don't care about them being convoluted, they just got too lazy to keep programing in the icy stone/mossy stone. In the future Runerigus is probably just going to need a dusk stone or something I bet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 08:12:56 No.42839355 Report

Quoted By:

>>42835360
>>42837420
>>42839293
I think it's because it would arguably make things more tedious if you don't want a baby-specific move, since the babies can't breed and I think
>Pokemon finally lets babies breed
is a headline they'd rather avoid. Then again, breeding can largely be sidestepped outside of HAs now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 08:13:56 No.42839366 Report

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>>42835420
Affection should've never been a thing in the first place, especially since the Fairy-type move thing was required when Sylveon first came out. Gamefreak is absolutely retarded when they design this shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 08:18:37 No.42839403 Report

Quoted By: >>42839468

>>42839003
This exactly
But also the other way
>Vaporeon - Level up near a body of water (no rivers) or during rain
>Flareon - Level up near a magma pool or during sun
>Jolteon - Level up near a heavy power source or during a thunderstorm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 08:20:04 No.42839411 Report

Quoted By:

>>42839351
anon you do not "program" those

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 08:22:24 No.42839430 Report

Quoted By:

>>42835126
>not trade when holding magnet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 08:29:14 No.42839468 Report

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>>42839403
Also
>Umbreon - During the day level up in a place that sees no light like the bottom floor of a cave
>Espeon - During night level up in a place with no darkness like an amusement park or city
>Sylveon - Level up near a "Mystical" object/place like a Fairy Circle or Stonehenge

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 08:33:35 No.42839501 Report

Quoted By:

>>42839003
Sylveon should evolve with the Dawn Stone because she's trans

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 10:09:01 No.42840021 Report

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The worst part is that they could have introduced the rocks in the DLC areas (they probably still will), but they just didn't want people to go half a year without their shillmon, meanwhile hundreds of other favorites have been cut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 10:24:39 No.42840064 Report

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>>42835111
I don't think the mechanic changed at all since I did the usual, lv2 evolution thing for every other friendship based evo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 10:26:24 No.42840070 Report

Quoted By:

>>42836306
That's gen V's fault though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 10:28:37 No.42840075 Report

Quoted By: >>42843580

>>42836895
>Trade-off
>Zero advantage for the rock method
/vp/ showing that high IQ once again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 10:28:44 No.42840076 Report

Quoted By:

>>42835056
>>42835089
Why not just retcon it to evolve via Shiny Stone? That way it's a tad more consistent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 12:49:22 No.42840548 Report

Quoted By:

>>42835291
while it is good evo method, it brings too much baggage to future games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 17:28:10 No.42841950 Report

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>>42836895
This is a great ideas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 17:33:00 No.42841974 Report

Quoted By: >>42842072

>>42835206
Part of the problem is that the Dark-type was originally known as the Evil-type. I love Nob's translations, but he did do some fuckups here and there. A lot of the Abilities just got messed up in translation (not entirely unforgivable, as too many of them have puns that would never have survived translation anyways). Ultra Ball should've been known as Hyper Ball is another one that causes me some autistic grief.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 17:47:37 No.42842072 Report

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>>42841974
>Part of the problem is that the Dark-type was originally known as the Evil-type.
Dark-type is still exclusively evil. Just corelated with darkness because it's the time you usually do evil, unfair things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 17:49:10 No.42842080 Report

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>>42837561
Mew-under-the-truck tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 17:58:14 No.42842130 Report

Quoted By:

>>42837561
How in the fuck was anyone ever supposed to pick this up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 19:25:17 No.42842850 Report

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>>42835038
Wait, they finally retconned it?
I can't fucking believe I'm gonna say it, but Shill and Shit actually did something right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 19:36:22 No.42842952 Report

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>>42838114
Probably trading. Look at Milotic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 19:41:28 No.42842993 Report

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>>42835118
there will no longer be any new eeveelutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 19:43:44 No.42843015 Report

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>>42836827
>Muh soul!
>Z-zoomer!
Just kill yourself already

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Feb 2020 20:54:09 No.42843580 Report

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>>42840075
Did you misunderstand what I said? The trade-off is that you can evolve earlier with Stones, while using Rocks lets you not use up any items.

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