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Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 22:22:33 No.42873924 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42874003 >>42874154 >>42874451 >>42874511 >>42874640 >>42874656 >>42874695 >>42874905 >>42874996 >>42875346 >>42875450 >>42876308 >>42876374 >>42876382 >>42876386 >>42876401 >>42877776 >>42877910

How would you improve SwSh?

I would make everything better and less bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 22:30:21 No.42873993 Report

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>Some more new pokemon and better typing

>Wild Area bigger and more than one

>A bit harder

>improve cities to make them lively and unique

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 22:31:35 No.42874003 Report

Quoted By: >>42876383

>>42873924
Give it more plot and make battle tower better. We should have a cool cutscene for Eternatus's awaken.
Also make Galar larger and give it more optional areas. Though I'm fine with small region since it made it easy to rush the game on second playthrough.
I think wild area is alright as it is, unless you're a graphicfag who want to seethe about the trees forever. There should be a berry field though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 22:48:23 No.42874154 Report

Quoted By: >>42874553

>>42873924
>Throw out the region map. It's garbage
>Rework Chairman Rose plot so that it makes more sense
>Have Hop be less intrusive in the campaign
>Have actual optional areas and towns, proper dungeons which warrant the reusable escape rope
>Spice up the NPC dialogue so that they are a bit more interesting and don't just talk about the league
>Remove the clown suit when biking
>Wild Area has secret bases and hidden grottos in it
>Up the difficulty somewhat
>Have the DLC be the postgame
>Bring back triples and rotation formats
>All the Pokemon are programmed in
>Redo the soundtrack with the composer for Colosseum/XD
>Polish up some textures and visual hiccups / poor animations
>In-game GTS
>less cumbersome online and time limit removed for 6v6 battles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 23:22:48 No.42874451 Report

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>>42873924
Start over from scratch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 23:31:18 No.42874511 Report

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>>42873924
Objective
>Ability to turn EXP.share off
>Improve bosses teams
>Difficulty settings
>Make it harder to raid battle grind
>More hidden routes or have the wild area contain mini-dungeons
>Give Chair man rose a better reason to act like a dumbass
>The DLC is now free
Subjective
>Redesign certain pokemon key offenders are eiscue,durladon and inteleon
>Gigantamax is replaced by mega evolutions along with some extra pokemon getting some
>Regional are normal evolutions with the exception of obstagoon and perrserker who are now their own lines +10 new evolutions
>More regional varaints, especially for the pokemon implied to be non-native like corphish and gumshoos

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 23:33:27 No.42874528 Report

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This is just improvements that could be patched.

>Animations can be off during online, you just have to wait longer if someone has them on
>status down moves affect all raid mons at once like dyna moves
>Shiny Pokemon show in the field (also special beam colors for a shiny raid)
>Make 2x dyna dmg moves do 2 bars of shield damage like dyna moves
>fly to any square in wild area
>y-comm has an option to join random raids

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 23:37:23 No.42874553 Report

Quoted By: >>42874686 >>42876416 >>42877769

>>42874154
>no
>yes
>yes
>yes
>i dont care
>i dont care
>yes
>how, and not JUST MAKE EVERYTHING HIGHER LEVELED, because it turns the game into an annoying grindfest
>yes
>yes
>i dont care
>no
>yes
>why not both, i find the mobile one very comfy and useful when im not at home but want to trade pokemon
>yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 23:49:14 No.42874640 Report

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>>42873924
>Chairman Rose's team is changed to not be mono-steel
>Leon's ace becomes Dragapult and it gets a G-Max (but Charizard is still seen with him to hide his true ace)
>after beating the gym leaders/rivals, you can invite them to NPC raids instead of having to rely on the regular shitty NPCs
>if a raid mon is shiny, the host is guaranteed to catch it
>some Wild area dens lead to mini-dungeons where you can find rare Pokemon or items
>you can change the uniform you wear to gym matches

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 23:52:11 No.42874656 Report

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>>42873924
>How would you improve SwSh?
but it's already good, watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=malffvIf0Hs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 23:56:23 No.42874686 Report

Quoted By: >>42874819

>>42874553
you could up the difficulty by improving the trainer ai or giving them better teams or slightly upping the levels, not to retarded romhack tier heights

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 23:57:08 No.42874695 Report

Quoted By: >>42874708 >>42874727 >>42876328

>>42873924
>National Dex, first and foremost
>All moves
>Megas
>Z-Moves
>Every pokemon is obtainable in a single pair of games, for the first time since Gen 2(?)
>Story is laser-focused on YOU, rather than Leon and Hop

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 23:59:02 No.42874708 Report

Quoted By: >>42874715 >>42875285

>>42874695
Annnnnnd now the thread is ruined because the "muh dex" retards showed up. It was fun while it lasted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Feb 2020 23:59:47 No.42874715 Report

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>>42874708
If one little problem can ruin a thread for you, doesn't that make you equivalent to dexposters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:01:39 No.42874727 Report

Quoted By: >>42874751

>>42874695
OP said “improvements.”

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:03:53 No.42874751 Report

Quoted By: >>42874754

>>42874727
And I gave OP improvements.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:04:22 No.42874754 Report

Quoted By: >>42874764 >>42874774 >>42875285

>>42874751
No, you didn't. You're just trying to shove in things that existed in previous games mindlessly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:05:12 No.42874764 Report

Quoted By: >>42874770

>>42874754
Because they shouldn't have been taken out to begin with. If I'm not making the game better, I'm at least making it less bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:05:42 No.42874770 Report

Quoted By: >>42874790

>>42874764
>Because they shouldn't have been taken out to begin with
Yes, they should have. They don't improve the game in any meaningful way so it's a waste of dev time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:06:20 No.42874774 Report

Quoted By: >>42874832

>>42874754
>having a national dex over one cut in half is an 'improvement'

state of swish trannies

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:07:45 No.42874790 Report

Quoted By: >>42874832

>>42874770
Sure they do. Every Pokemon being obtainable gives people more options. Don't like a Pokemon? Don't use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:09:58 No.42874819 Report

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>>42874686
agreed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:12:03 No.42874832 Report

Quoted By: >>42874849 >>42875291 >>42875294 >>42875398 >>42876315

>>42874774
>>having a national dex over one cut in half is an 'improvement'
Unironically yes. Any time they spent developing literally anything other than muh dex is an improvement to the game. Having all the box filler adds no quality to the game.

>>42874790
>Every Pokemon being obtainable gives people more options
More options != better game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:14:52 No.42874849 Report

Quoted By: >>42874873

>>42874832
Sure it does. Besides, collecting the box filler is the best part, you're just being a contrarian douchebag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:17:51 No.42874873 Report

Quoted By: >>42874881

>>42874849
>Sure it does.
No, it doesn't.

>collecting the box filler is the best part
How is moving things you already have "collecting"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:19:19 No.42874881 Report

Quoted By: >>42874903

>>42874873
Because you're adding new box fillers to your collection as well. Besides, if you could catch every Pokemon in a single region, why would you even need to "move things you already have?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:20:35 No.42874891 Report

Quoted By: >>42874993 >>42875306

imagine thinking super mario odyssey would be improved if it had the cat suit and FLUDD simply because they existed in a previous game and because it's "more options"

this is dextard logic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:22:02 No.42874903 Report

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>>42874881
>Because you're adding new box fillers to your collection as well.
You're already doing that with the new Pokemon in the game. Having ALL the previous Pokemon that you can already transfer up adds nothing to the game.

>why would you even need to "move things you already have?"
Why wouldn't I when it's easier?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:22:16 No.42874905 Report

Quoted By: >>42876535

>>42873924
Why would it need improving? Its perfectly fine the way it is now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:34:44 No.42874993 Report

Quoted By: >>42875018

>>42874891
Your cringe is showing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:36:08 No.42874996 Report

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>>42873924
2 DLC packs for the price of 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 00:38:34 No.42875018 Report

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>>42874993
sorry, some of it must have rubbed off from dextards

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:12:03 No.42875285 Report

Quoted By: >>42875291

>>42874754
>>42874708
Why exactly are you here?
You know full well that having a larger roster is always a positive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:12:57 No.42875291 Report

Quoted By: >>42875308

>>42875285
>You know full well that having a larger roster is always a positive
No it isn’t. >>42874832

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:13:07 No.42875294 Report

Quoted By: >>42875308 >>42875319 >>42875335

>>42874832
>VirGinCuck meta
Aghm

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:14:02 No.42875306 Report

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>>42874891
Please, don't compare Swoosh to Odyssey. Odysseylooks better but was as boring as Swoosh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:14:08 No.42875308 Report

Quoted By: >>42875317

>>42875291
See >>42875294

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:15:11 No.42875317 Report

Quoted By: >>42875461 >>42876266

>>42875308
What’s your point? You want to add all your shitmons to make it even worse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:15:15 No.42875319 Report

Quoted By: >>42875472

>>42875294
Why is Arcanine so used now? No idea of current meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:16:54 No.42875335 Report

Quoted By: >>42875461

>>42875294
>d-doesn't count!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:17:52 No.42875346 Report

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>>42873924
I wish they'd throw the petting/care mechanics from Refresh back into Camp. They were disappointingly shallow but still comfy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:24:21 No.42875398 Report

Quoted By: >>42875422

>>42874832
>game is full of shitmon who are only getting used because the things that outclass them in every way have been omitted from the game
>garchomp, metagross, dragonite, and a number of other heavy hitters are being called 'box filler' by contrarians who don't know what the hell they're talking about
What a time to be alive. SwSh *is* Box Filler: the Gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:28:32 No.42875422 Report

Quoted By: >>42875477

>>42875398
>>game is full of shitmon who are only getting used because the things that outclass them in every way have been omitted from the game
That’s the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:30:29 No.42875450 Report

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>>42873924
I would make the wild area more interesting with mountains, caves, underground tunnels and underwater lakes. It shouldn't be that flat and barren. Also I would flesh out the towns & cities more. We should be able to explore the area behibd the gym in turf field and Hammerlocke/Wyndon should be a lot bigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:31:25 No.42875461 Report

Quoted By: >>42877797

>>42875317
>>42875335
>Adding the missing Pokemon would improve the game
>”Nah Hah. Look at these very specific top 8 teams from VGC2014! It’s so balanced because less Pokemon were available”
>Well here’s the Top 8 of Oceania for SWSH, which has even less Pokemon
Are you ever just going to admit you’re wrong?
Like as a whole for these shitty games, let alone the “The cut is actually for balance!” bullshit.

And again, why are you in this thread, asking about ways to improve SWSH, if you are just going to defend how trash these games are

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:32:33 No.42875472 Report

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>>42875319
Good bulk, good support movepool, intimidate, and good offensive stats as well. It's only outclassed by Incineroar in its role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:33:06 No.42875477 Report

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>>42875422
So what is it?
Is SWSH only erasing box filler?
Is SWSH only erasing the broken Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 01:33:45 No.42875483 Report

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Man y’all are bad at this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:34:14 No.42876266 Report

Quoted By: >>42876287

>>42875317
Adding more Pokemon would LOWER the usage of all of them, not increase it. There'd be more Pokemon to spread the usage across.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:37:29 No.42876287 Report

Quoted By: >>42876300

>>42876266
>Adding more Pokemon would LOWER the usage of all of them
That isn’t how it works, you retard. People just use the best out of what’s available.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:38:58 No.42876300 Report

Quoted By: >>42876315

>>42876287
Again, there would be more Pokemon to spread the usage out. With a limited selection of Pokemon, all the usage gets funneled down into a smaller space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:39:57 No.42876308 Report

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>>42873924
less hop cutscene
there, 50% better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:40:43 No.42876315 Report

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>>42876300
>Again, there would be more Pokemon to spread the usage out
>>42874832

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:42:59 No.42876328 Report

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>>42874695
I wouldn't mind losing the nat dex if there was a noticeable gain from it, or if the cut didn't seem completely arbitrary.
What I /wouldn't/ tolerate is if they brought back the whole dex for the next gen and cut the games even further, unless it was a Stadium game for $40 or something.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:51:03 No.42876374 Report

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>>42873924
Assuming I had the exact same budget and teams to work on the games, dev laziness and all, I would've cut the dex even further and thrown Team Yell and Marnie out of the game and made Hau more competitive and less "handholdy friendly rival #4".
Then I would've focused that excess dev time/budget on something like legit animations, fleshing out the Wild Area, adding a hard mode and maybe slip in one or two more legit cutscenes where the game told you things were happening because you couldn't see them for reasons.
And made Home more than just a box with trading. Maybe a minigame or two?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:52:41 No.42876382 Report

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>>42873924
Yes. That's what improving is...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:52:44 No.42876383 Report

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>>42874003
Fuck graphics, the WA needs more shit to do there than just walking from den to den. The fact it's just a big area full of nothing just pisses me off after all they marketed it to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:53:34 No.42876386 Report

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>>42873924
Make the fucking text appear when the move effect does, why this is still a thing is baffling

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:56:28 No.42876401 Report

Quoted By: >>42876436 >>42876451

>>42873924
> nat dex
> frontier
> follower pokemon
> make all shiny female pokemon have a 10% chance of having a dick
>> able to sex ur poggymen
> exp share is an item that you can turn off
> run toggle
> all trainers pokemon have perfect IV's.
> make the story not shit
> improve the animations tenfold
> voice acting
> megas and z-moves return (z-moves because z's would make a good dynamax buster)
> fix online battles to be good: (showdown timer, 6 pokemon each battle, triples and rotations return, additional "regional dex" bracket, legendaries are always banned unless you're making a custom room)
> fix the wild area; the bugs, the emptiness, etc.
> your gender is pre-determined by your mii. trannies and traps begone.
> completely redo all caves to make them explorable and puzzle-like.
> less lies
> dlc doesn't cost money, an apology letter for being jewish

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 03:58:17 No.42876416 Report

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>>42874553
> he grinds to defeat strong trainers instead of utilizing creative strategies to overcome obstacles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 04:00:27 No.42876436 Report

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>>42876401
> oh, and all moves return. that's important.
> let's also add "delays game release in order to push out a SUPERIOR PRODUCT.
> bricks the switches of paypiggies. (Again).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 04:02:55 No.42876451 Report

Quoted By: >>42876470 >>42876553

>>42876401
>> nat dex
stopped reading there

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 04:06:08 No.42876470 Report

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>>42876451
i hope the games becomes a gacha franchise so you shills can pay a lot of money to get a 1% rattata png

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 04:14:08 No.42876535 Report

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>>42874905
> slurpee.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 04:16:12 No.42876553 Report

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>>42876451
> > actual improvement
> "brain stopped working there."
FTFY

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 07:47:35 No.42877769 Report

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>>42874553
fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 07:49:33 No.42877776 Report

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>>42873924
I would kill it and the entire franchise. Fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 07:53:00 No.42877797 Report

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>>42875461
>yawnfag
>ever admitting he's wrong after shilling these mediocre fuckfests for almost an entire year
If it has whataboutism or retarded "no u" repetitions, it's him. Special mention to mega evolutions for making him blow his gasket.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 08:21:10 No.42877910 Report

Quoted By: >>42877915

>>42873924
Region design
>Expand the region, pic related
>The wild area has daily 2-4 randomised mini-dungeons per day with different Pokémon spawns, TRs, and trainers in them
>There are randomised NPC trainers besides Breeder Chloe in the wild area
>There are rock climb-esque areas in west of Hammerlocke, towards my new town off Wedgehurst and in the wild area which are passable with a mountain bike upgrade as a parallel to the water bike
>The new town off Wedghurst has a gym but it's empty because Piers refuses to move
>You are introduced to at least one minor leader when you visit. In the post game you can battle all 10 minor leaders at this gym
>You can properly walk between and fly to all four segments of Wyndon now
>The new areas east and northwest of Wyndon are for Stonehenge and the cliffs of Dover respectively

Story design
>When you are about to get to Motostoke, the Snorlax by the bridge to the northern half of the wild area dynamaxes and you battle it with Hop, foreshadowing later plot events
>It also breaks the bridge so you have an actual reason to be locked out of there
>Macro Cosmos are properly introduced here manned by league staff as a business that will fix the bridge
>After the opening ceremony you can go either clockwise or anti-clockwise around the first gym area
>The events for Bede, Marnie and Hop will swap sides accordingly
>When you get to Hammerlocke you can go east or west first, with east being the "Marnie arc" and west being the "Bede arc" and Hop's arc in those areas swapping accordingly
>When Leon fights the dynamaxed Pokémon, the player and Hop help
>When doing the Wyndon finals, it is actually randomised instead of always being Nessa/Bea/Raihan

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2020 08:22:12 No.42877915 Report

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>>42877910
Story climax
>Eternatus appeared 3000 years ago, creating the wild area when it and thousands of other Pokémon dynamaxed at once
>It reawoke 1500 years later during the darkest day whereupon it was defeated by the two kings
>Rose theorises it will awaken again any day now, he has been gathering wishing stones to power his containment device but it's not enough
>He also timed the league challenge and gathered all the gym leaders/Leon in the same place for the same reason, hence he invites the leaders to his tower too
>Rose not waiting just one day makes sense now
>Leon refuses to postpone the finals on the chance that Eternatus might awaken but Rose refuses to let them leave unless they comply
>I.e. the finals can't go ahead while they're in there
>Oleana stopping the player and Hop with the chase and tower raid/break out makes sense now
>After the finals, Eternatus does awaken and breaks out of Rose's containment unit
>Pokémon start dynamaxing everywhere, the gym leaders go off to deal with them while Leon deals with Eternatus
>The player doesn't battle Rose now, he was already defeated by Eternatus, but he does rebuke the lack of decisive action
>Rest of the events play out the same way except the player does not capture Eternatus, they defeat it and it fucks off back into space so it can be post-game

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