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Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2020 23:05:17 No.42909093 View View Reply Original Report

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Why haven't they banned Arena Trap yet?
I don't think anyone is seriously opposed to a quick ban at this point, though a suspect would also be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2020 23:36:48 No.42909398 Report

Quoted By: >>42918184

>>42909093
>waaaa I can't switch out when I want to

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2020 23:38:27 No.42909407 Report

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>>42909093

>NOOOOO I HAVE TO BE FORCED TO USE FLYING TYPES AND GHOST TYPES BOTH OF WHICH ARE VERY GOOD TYPES WITH FEW IF ANY DRAWBACKS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2020 23:40:04 No.42909420 Report

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>>42909093
Why is arena trap allowed but shadow tag isnt its not fair wobbubros

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2020 23:42:01 No.42909436 Report

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I think you should be limited to 1. It's fine but its not really fun to fight/play around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2020 23:42:59 No.42909447 Report

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>>42909420
arena trap is only one difference away from being exactly like shadow tag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2020 23:47:08 No.42909492 Report

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>>42909093
>Shadow Tag and Arena Trap now trap a target only for 2 turns
>Magnet Pull stays the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2020 23:48:35 No.42909508 Report

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>>42909492
Nothing changes since Dugtrio 1 or 2HKOs its targets anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2020 23:51:15 No.42909535 Report

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>>42909420
It's mostly because Dugtrio/Diglett/Trapinch are more limited in what they can trap because of their stat spreads and movepools.
Also because Arena Trap can't trap ungrounded Pokemon.
>>42909492
That's an excellent nerf for Shadowtag but wouldn't change much for Arena Trap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 00:10:34 No.42909747 Report

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>>42909407
Because of the way arena trap works your entire team would have to be flying/levitating/ghost/shed shell otherwise it WILL trap what it wants to trap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 00:12:43 No.42909772 Report

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>>42909093
They will.
They're just gonna suspect it because they're fucking retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 00:13:36 No.42909778 Report

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>>42909093
OMGON BAN WYNAU
DUGTRIO IS OKAY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 00:14:42 No.42909784 Report

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>>42909420
Wobbuffet's tail is black and Smogon is racist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 00:42:02 No.42910042 Report

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>>42909093
You know an ability is OP when people run NFE mons just to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 00:59:43 No.42910207 Report

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>>42909784
Wobbufet is a real nigga and he gets them gardevoir amorphous girls on the daycare

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 01:00:38 No.42910221 Report

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>>42909784
kek

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 01:15:52 No.42910384 Report

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>>42909420
>Shadow Tag banned
>Gothitelle is shit without it
>Wobb is even worse but absolutley needs it to function at all

>LC banned Gothita so Wynaut is the sole user

Bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 03:59:17 No.42911817 Report

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>>42909420
It won't be allowed much longer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 04:06:13 No.42911882 Report

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>>42909420
Honestly, Gothitelle is lame as fuck. With Cosmic Power/Calm Mind/Stored Power, pretty much an autowin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 04:50:07 No.42912244 Report

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>>42911882
you don't really need calm mind either.
at +6 Def/SpDef nothing can kill you and Stored Power is so powered up it still does huge danage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 04:52:52 No.42912265 Report

Quoted By: >>42912300

>>42909093
I've faced the double dugquadro strat on ladder before, its not as cancer as it sounds. Diglet cant trap much by itself cuz it just gets rekt, its supposed to work with duggy together to chain trap shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 05:00:25 No.42912300 Report

Quoted By: >>42913223

>>42912265
Yeah generally diglett just screeches stuff so dugtrio can trap it.
It can still pick off weakened stuff or set up rock though.
And after a screech banded dugtrio can do ridiculous stuff like OHKO Seismitoad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 06:27:37 No.42912869 Report

Quoted By: >>42920601

>>42909093
Wasn't it banned last gen?
Why did they decide it was okay this gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 06:31:14 No.42912896 Report

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>>42909093
> he doesn't play natdexAG

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 06:32:31 No.42912907 Report

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isn't Diglett one of the most frail pokemon in the game? What can it do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 07:22:15 No.42913223 Report

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>>42912907
What >>42912300 said.
Setup for Dugtrio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 08:08:37 No.42913458 Report

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>>42909093
>WAAAHHH WAAAAHHH BAN EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN I SHOULD USE MY BRAIN TO THINK OF WAYS TO COUNTER ARENA TRAP?! JUST BAN IT ALREADY!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 08:11:41 No.42913480 Report

Quoted By: >>42913504

>>42913458
What counters to arena trap are there?
If your opponent sends out Dugtrio and you're trapped with a mon that has a shit matchup, what can you do other than just die?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 08:13:21 No.42913486 Report

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>>42913458
>just counter the ability that explicitly prevents counterplay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 08:17:36 No.42913503 Report

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>>42913458
Please tell me you're just pretending to be retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 08:18:04 No.42913504 Report

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>>42913480
>>42913486
Why didn't you have your pokemon learn bubble? Oh I know, it's because you're literal NPCs who just copy/paste whatever set was posted on smogon and then call it a day.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 08:28:05 No.42913548 Report

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>>42913504
I can't believe fanfic meta brainlet shitter incels can't even handle Dugtrio.
Bubble wasn't on the calculator, but water gun has the same BP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 09:59:22 No.42913865 Report

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>>42909093
The "on the radar threads" are awful, they are just as bad to read and discuss in as proper suspect threads, and drag almost as long, but there is no real commitment on the part of the staff to actually follow through with any decision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 10:05:35 No.42913895 Report

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>>42913504

Bubble has been excised from the game, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 10:58:38 No.42914039 Report

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>>42913504
you're basically saying you can't use pokemon that are slower than dugtrio and can be killed by dugtrio at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 11:01:01 No.42914047 Report

Quoted By: >>42914073 >>42919279 >>42919299 >>42919617 >>42919672 >>42919698

Anti-switch tools are always hated by Smogontards because their only idea of fun is endless switching. Guess what, bitch? When I launch a Thunderbolt at a Gyarados, I don’t get a rush of dopamine if I’m not seeing the fucker fry a horrible death, because you switched to Excadrill. Fuck you. Muh strategy and muh winning isn’t fun. Killing things brutally is fun. Fuck Smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 11:07:29 No.42914073 Report

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>>42914047
>Anti-switch tools are always hated by Smogontards because their only idea of fun is endless switching.
Then why is stealth rock still not banned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 11:18:27 No.42914113 Report

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>>42914073
Because Rapid Spin and Defog exist. If they didn't then SR and Spikes would be banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 11:21:02 No.42914120 Report

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>>42914073
because they tried a format without stealth rocks and endless battles of just switching and nobody attacking because a lot more common

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Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 11:24:48 No.42914129 Report

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>>42913504
>Why didn't you have your pokemon learn bubble?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 12:11:54 No.42914275 Report

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>>42913504
Lol no ome has made a valid argument against this yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 16:08:01 No.42915558 Report

Quoted By: >>42915932 >>42916569 >>42918075

>3 pure fire types

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 16:41:27 No.42915816 Report

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>>42914073
Because hazards actually punish switching while trapping abilities just kinda delete Pokemon that have a shitty matchup against the trapper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 16:57:43 No.42915932 Report

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>>42915558
Rape ape lives up to its namesake in the sun
Rabbit gives you back your hazards
Torkoal sets up sun for rape ape to rape, and for Venusaur to do literally anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 18:21:21 No.42916569 Report

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>>42915558
Doesn't matter when Diglett and Dugtrio together trap any solid check lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 21:18:07 No.42918075 Report

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>>42915558
>2 pure ground types

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Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 21:33:11 No.42918184 Report

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>>42909407
>>42909398
>>42913458
>>42913548
don’t you niggers have any chalk to be ramming up your dickholes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 23:17:50 No.42919143 Report

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>>42918184
CHALK was 5 years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 23:32:25 No.42919279 Report

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>>42914047
>When I launch a Thunderbolt at a Gyarados, I don’t get a rush of dopamine if I’m not seeing the fucker fry a horrible death, because you switched to Excadrill.
Imagine having this argument but for an FPS.
>When I launch a Rocket at another player, I don’t get a rush of dopamine if I’m not seeing the fucker fry a horrible death, because he moved

But I guess this is the mentality of VirGinCucks.
You can’t go for more than 2 turns without killing some and with as little prediction as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 23:34:25 No.42919299 Report

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>>42914047
>UNGA BUNGA WHY YOU NO LET ME SMASH WHOLE TEAM WITH ONE POKEMON: the post
the absolute fucking STATE of veggiesea-tards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2020 00:12:56 No.42919617 Report

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>>42914047
Retard.
Just predict the switch and launch a move that's strong against Excadrill.
Then you get the dopamine rush by making the Excadrill fry a horrible death, and the dopamine rush by outplaying your opponent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2020 00:18:51 No.42919672 Report

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>>42914047
>people have responses to my moves? sounds like bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2020 00:21:19 No.42919698 Report

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>>42914047
>wtf why can't i just win automatically?
Sounds like you should just stick to singleplayer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2020 01:13:31 No.42920265 Report

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>>42909093
It's totally balanced.
Just have a full team of ghost, flying, and levitating mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2020 01:50:51 No.42920601 Report

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>>42912869
Less targets causing less offensive mons to run rampant. Imagine kartana being able to spam leaf blade without having to worry about Heatean because it got dispatched by dugtrio. Just one example. Might be QB'd after DLC though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2020 02:50:08 No.42921199 Report

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>>42918184
That's just people using the best tools available to them to win.
And because VGC isn't run by idiot snowflakes, they didn't ban Landorus for being too useful and instead recognized that players should either learn to play around it or lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2020 04:45:59 No.42922084 Report

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>>42909093
It will be a suspect, and we'll have to deal with trapping bullshit even longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2020 07:05:14 No.42922924 Report

Quoted By: >>42922935 >>42923136 >>42923193

>>42909093
Because of the stall agenda.
>but how can dugtrio be stall? it only has 35 HP and 50 def?
Dugtrio isn't stall in and of itself, but it can be used to trap wallbreakers and KO them so that the rest of the team can stall uncontested.
>but smogon banned it last gen
The OU councils for gen 7 and gen 8 are made up of different people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2020 07:07:51 No.42922935 Report

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>>42922924
Stall isn't viable right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2020 07:53:38 No.42923136 Report

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>>42922924
2/6 council members are the same and one of them is the current leader (who has said multiple times that he personally wants arena trap banned), it's just internet bureaucracy + home release fucking the timeline up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2020 08:07:18 No.42923193 Report

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>>42922924
Dugtrio in used more on Sun than in stall LOL. You cant even see any stall on the ladder. Balance is literally the closest thing to stall. But again Balance =/= stall. If you do see stall, it is absolute dogshit and gets destroyed by Nasty plot hydreigon.

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