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Anonymous Thu 05 Mar 2020 23:41:05 No.42967915 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42967944 >>42967955 >>42967989 >>42968037 >>42968173 >>42968558 >>42969018

What's the purpose of unusably bad pocket monsters(or pokemon as i like to call them)?

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Anonymous Thu 05 Mar 2020 23:42:31 No.42967932 Report

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Gotta catch em- i mean gotta catch some of them !

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Mar 2020 23:43:40 No.42967938 Report

Quoted By: >>42968057

the main excuse people will use is "game balance" and that having a good Pokemon too early breaks the game, not realising that it'd be easy to restrict a Pokemon's potential until later in the game
XY's early routers are an example of how to do it right

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Anonymous Thu 05 Mar 2020 23:44:06 No.42967944 Report

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>>42967915
filler for the early game.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Mar 2020 23:44:36 No.42967955 Report

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>>42967915
Filler. Though to be honest very few Pokémon are actually unusable in the main story.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Mar 2020 23:44:37 No.42967956 Report

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>>42967944
Isn't that the point of evolution though?

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Anonymous Thu 05 Mar 2020 23:47:59 No.42967989 Report

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>>42967915
first pokemon that could badly poison a pokemon

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Anonymous Thu 05 Mar 2020 23:52:54 No.42968037 Report

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>>42967915
In this case, show players how evolution, status effects and items work

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Anonymous Thu 05 Mar 2020 23:54:16 No.42968057 Report

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>>42967938
the games have no problem giving you in-game gods like magnemite and marill early on though, so i have no idea where this argument comes from

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Anonymous Thu 05 Mar 2020 23:54:39 No.42968060 Report

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to post in bromon threads

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Anonymous Thu 05 Mar 2020 23:55:56 No.42968075 Report

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>>42968057
shut up magnemite is my bro and i use him in every game because he is so good don't take him away from me :(

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 00:06:33 No.42968173 Report

Quoted By: >>42968232

>>42967915
Worldbuilding.

Not every Pokemon needs to excel at battling and that is a good thing that adds depth to the world. There is much more to the world than fighting. Why would a fucking bee be an apex creature?

Sometimes its game balance though. One of the most recent examples is Thievul, who is likely poor at combat because it's the preferred Pokemon of Team Yell. Weaker final evos also typically evolve quicker, so that's another balancer.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 00:12:10 No.42968232 Report

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>>42968173
You would have an argument if Beedrill's counterpart, which you get and can train in the same time, wasn't much better both for early game and later, even if it's still shit.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 00:35:40 No.42968443 Report

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Some people like to root for the underdog, so funmons have their own appeal. You can set your own difficulty by using some less then stellar pokemon.

I get the feeling that Pokemon is supposed to be played by training several different pokemon and then swapping and replacing them as you advance, but most people still playing these games decide their team even before they start their save and then stick to their selections, making the games easy.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 00:46:22 No.42968542 Report

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>>42968232
I don't see how Butterfree being somewhat more viable through the entire game because it learns psychic moves(though this argument isn't great because you can beat the ingame story of pokemon with almost anything) detracts from the world building that comes with Beedrill existing.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 00:47:21 No.42968558 Report

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>>42967915
I like that, it makes the world feel more alive, and seeing this franchise give us stuff like dunsparce,
not every Pokemon needs to be super tough

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 00:50:52 No.42968594 Report

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>>42968542
>detracts from the world building that comes with Beedrill existing.
It doesn't. But Butterfree's power isn't only that. It also gets all Powder moves WAY before you can access Oddish or similar Pokemon.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 00:53:52 No.42968628 Report

Quoted By: >>42968808 >>42968853 >>42969299

>they're just filler bro, not every mon needs to be good
Everyone who says this isn't getting the point. I WANT to be able to use any Pokemon I want and at least have a chance of winning in battle. How can I do that when the majority of all Pokemon in existence are fucking awful? Parasect? Cacturne? UNOWN? If I really, really wanted to have these guys to be actually usable, I should be able to.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 01:16:11 No.42968808 Report

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>>42968628
They are usable, they just aren't viable competitively. Youtubers do meme runs with shitmons all the time

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 01:22:20 No.42968853 Report

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>>42968628
This is like saying there are literally billions of humans on the planet and only a select few are great at sports to earn a career. I should be able to lace up and compete with anyone. Why can't I do this?? This is your argument

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 01:33:03 No.42968959 Report

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There's like 700 of them and they have extreme overlap. They'll never be balanced, and they weren't supposed to be.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 01:39:00 No.42969018 Report

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>>42967915
beedrill, and most bug types in the first few gens, exist solely so you can have a full evo early on
then you get full evos with higher BST later and bench him

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 01:40:50 No.42969034 Report

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>>42969018
>Benching your bros
You guys don't really do this right?

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 02:09:24 No.42969299 Report

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>>42968628
You can use anything you want ingame. That's what the level system is for.

As for competitive, in any game it's natural for a meta to develop. Do you seriously think it's feasible to balance 900 characters in a game?

Also git gud. Most Pokemon have a unique niche in battle, even if it isn't particularly consistent or viable in serious matches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 02:10:28 No.42969310 Report

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>>42969034
Even Ash did this, reflecting what most players did

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