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>>42975314
Weakness Policy only works once though. In a best two of three you know not to proc it again next time. Also there's only a handful of good WP users anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:18:18 No.42975568 Report

Quoted By: >>42977505 >>42978266

>>42975542
People use Raichu or/and other support mons with brick break to self proc it.
Raichu is particularly popular because it can fake out and nuzzle, so it's harder to play around even in best of 3 due to mind games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:21:03 No.42975588 Report

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>>42975258
Is this actually an issue or is it just retards who can't team build and been crutching on Togekiss and bulky waters getting bodied now that it's popular? It's Lapras, cool you get two screens in one turn but desperately needing both at once doesn't seem worth using your gigamax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:22:39 No.42975600 Report

Quoted By: >>42975630

>>42975542
Theres no "best of X" on online ladder/cart so you can only expect it and dont attack it.
I basically always avoid using a super effective attack on Tyranitar and Lapras, and Rhyperior unless its grass or water special attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:25:31 No.42975624 Report

Quoted By: >>42975658

>>42975263

It is unlikely you'll KO G-Max Lapras in one turn. Aura Viel will always be set up on the 1st turn as a result. And there's a very good chance it'll be carrying weakness policy. So now it's bulky and it'll be hitting harder. Also fun to heal it with Surf thanks to Water Absorb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:26:21 No.42975630 Report

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>>42975600
This. Togekiss too if it's offensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:29:29 No.42975658 Report

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>>42975624
I like to go for FAKE TEARS on Lapras while taking its hits with Goodra while focusing on killing it's partners. By the time I'm done with their buddies it is now a crippled and slow defenseless monster and I just pick it up on the side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:29:57 No.42975664 Report

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If you complain then maybe you should stop leading with Togekiss and Incineroar like 60% of people online.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:36:32 No.42975727 Report

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A good amount of people tend to use parting shot or snarl on G-Max lapras, which basically makes it useless. Lapras is so slow that you don't need to use tailwind.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:39:06 No.42975743 Report

Quoted By: >>42976686

>>42975258
I'm honestly glad it exists if only to beat the shit out of meta fags using the same Ttar, Exca, Togekiss, Incine every fucking match.
at least this thing walls most of them and might make people who have more than 2 braincells actually try and shake their teams up a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:41:40 No.42975777 Report

Quoted By: >>42975841

Lapras is annoying but not really threatening. Just don't attack it directly until the 3 turns are over. Milotic can be a lot worse to play against, if they are lucky with hypnosis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:44:32 No.42975798 Report

Quoted By: >>42978185

>>42975326
As in one-turn setup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 20:50:52 No.42975841 Report

Quoted By: >>42976447

>>42975777
that's what coil is for.

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SW 7566 7318 8978 Fri 06 Mar 2020 21:24:50 No.42976088 Report

Quoted By: >>42976118 >>42976183 >>42979842

>>42975542
WP is broken. The counterplay is fucking shit. You have wonder room (useless) and using not super-effective moves (great idea, its not like your facing down a Pokemon with double HP and 130+ base power moves)

It'll get nerfed next gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 21:26:55 No.42976118 Report

Quoted By: >>42976811

>>42976088
Dynamax will be removed next gen actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 21:34:24 No.42976183 Report

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>>42976088
You have parting shot, charm, wow, fake tears and dmax side effects too. And these are the more popular options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 22:03:01 No.42976447 Report

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>>42975841
You would have to be a retarded noob to let Milotic set up coil enough to reliably land hypnosis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 22:09:01 No.42976500 Report

Quoted By: >>42978111

>>42975258
>playing Uber
You brought this on yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 22:19:07 No.42976596 Report

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>>42975542
There are a certain few pokemon that you just know have WP when they show, you don't need to break your face first and go "in a best of three I'd know!".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 22:28:30 No.42976686 Report

Quoted By: >>42979874

>>42975743
Ttar is pretty good against lapras though so I don't know what you're saying. It can run WP of its own and even brick break to fuck veil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 22:41:57 No.42976811 Report

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>>42976118
And replaced by another one-shot mechanic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 22:50:48 No.42976875 Report

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>>42975258
They weren't

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 22:55:02 No.42976917 Report

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For me, it's Durant + Gothitelle + Milotic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Mar 2020 23:04:49 No.42977007 Report

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>>42975258
>geez most of these gmax moves are shit, aren't they
>let's make a couple of them good at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 00:05:55 No.42977505 Report

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>>42975568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Yg97EoZbk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 01:18:35 No.42978111 Report

Quoted By: >>42979717 >>42979729

>>42976500
>playing smogon tiers in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 01:26:37 No.42978185 Report

Quoted By: >>42978197

>>42975798
It's better than a one turn set up. It's also an attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 01:27:22 No.42978197 Report

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>>42978185
Comprehension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 01:30:50 No.42978234 Report

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>>42975258
It's a reference to the Island Turtle. It's a fine design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 01:34:12 No.42978266 Report

Quoted By: >>42981070

>>42975568
That's interesting. Never knew Brick Break still remove screens if targeting an ally. Actually that's so weird when you think about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 04:41:25 No.42979717 Report

Quoted By: >>42981057

>>42978111
I too enjoyed seeing Mega Rayquaza and Primal Groudon in literally all the top 8 teams, nintenfriend :)

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Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 04:43:50 No.42979729 Report

Quoted By: >>42981057

>>42978111
Yeah. People should play VGC instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 05:00:09 No.42979817 Report

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funny that I beat it up with incineroar after coalossal used tar shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 05:02:27 No.42979842 Report

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>>42976088
Last season we were consistently dealing with xerneas' geomancy, WP is nothing compared to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 05:06:03 No.42979874 Report

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>>42976686
it can but most don't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 05:19:16 No.42979952 Report

Quoted By: >>42980065 >>42981175 >>42981448

>>42975542
>handful of good WP users anyways.
At this point it isn't non viable to slap WP onto literally anything, because dynamax means almost anything can take an unboosted SE hit
Look at that fucker Wolfeglick, who stays in master ball rank with shit like WP leafeon and WP Whimsicott

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 05:41:50 No.42980065 Report

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>>42979952
>At this point it isn't non viable to slap WP onto literally anything
It actually is nonviable because of item clause.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 09:15:08 No.42981057 Report

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>>42979717
>>42979729
This meta is nothing like that since there's plenty of viable different teams and sets it actually becomes an headache to try to build a team that keeps the meta in check

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 09:19:14 No.42981070 Report

Quoted By: >>42981418

>>42978266
It removes your screens, not the opponent's. Which is good if you think about it since it pretty much resets your counter, so using brick break during the first and last turn of dynamax both procs WP and resets the counter, so it's kinda like you're also running light clay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 09:52:16 No.42981175 Report

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>>42979952
Master ball rank is really not anything special at lower ranks you can fuck people up with shit like Choice scarf cramorant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 10:44:56 No.42981348 Report

Quoted By: >>42981414 >>42981418

I was using gmax Lapras before it was cool. I used it with Alcremie Decorate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 11:13:09 No.42981414 Report

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>>42981348
It was cool from the moment they gave it veil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 11:14:04 No.42981418 Report

Quoted By: >>42981435

>>42981070
Ahh. Yeah I watched someone do that but their dynamax timer ran out so they couldn't get their screens up again. Unfortunate.

>>42981348
It's only been legal for like a week though lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 11:14:36 No.42981420 Report

Quoted By: >>42981438 >>42981623

>>42975258
Just use brick break lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 11:17:16 No.42981435 Report

Quoted By: >>42981453

>>42981418
??? All dmax was legal in singles when I played, and I was talking about doubles anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 11:17:54 No.42981438 Report

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>>42981420
Just don't be autistic lol

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Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 11:20:12 No.42981447 Report

Quoted By: >>42981453

Anyone have a spare G-Max Lapras?
It keeps escaping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 11:20:55 No.42981448 Report

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>>42979952
This is so true. Dynamax + WP is actually dumb as shit. WP would be a lot more balanced without Dyna, and vice versa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 11:22:29 No.42981453 Report

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>>42981435
Oh sorry I just assume we're talking VGC here, I don't know or care about other formats.

>>42981447
If you have Shield just do the date exploit to get a Lapras in your den for the perfect catch rate. Catch rate is legendary tiiers of bullshit if you join other GMax Lapras raids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 11:44:44 No.42981523 Report

Quoted By: >>42981645

>Ice types are b-

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 12:10:17 No.42981623 Report

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>>42981420
And then get destroyed by a WP proc'd Lapras that still has 80% of its hp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 12:16:15 No.42981645 Report

Quoted By: >>42981713

>>42981523
Lapras is Water/Ice, not the other way around. It's a Water type first and foremost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 12:27:09 No.42981677 Report

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>>42975258
>What were they thinking?
You mean the people who picked it? They were probably thinking they'd have an easy multi purpose pokemon that would let them play without having to think much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Mar 2020 12:36:38 No.42981713 Report

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>>42981645
G-Max Resonance is the main reason it's so good. Lapras would have never had access to something like this if it wasn't ice type.

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