/pmdg/: Happy Edition
Previous thread:
>>43006543 Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX (a remake of the original PMD games, Red and Blue Rescue Team) was released for Switch on March 6, 2020. A free demo is available in the eshop if you’re still not sure about getting the full game. Progress carries over into the full game.
Also, doing the simple tutorials in Makuhita's Dojo in the demo can net you good rewards, including a gold ribbon that sells for big money, so be sure to check that out.
PSMD and Gates download
http://pastebin.com/kh7GcnYm Check the guides at
>>>/vg/hbg if you don't know how to install the game. You won't lose any online features or anything doing so, don't worry. You'll be able to do everything that you'd normally be able to and much more!
MD Exploration Pack, which contains a DS emulator and roms, Wiiware roms, and custom portraits
https://mega.nz/#F!gFlVkSLI!tXbyoO5rwfUYnb9jf7yVsQ EoS/RT Music
https://mega.nz/#F!735VSSpb!ny8QU4SHB1_OlNkH_Hu3eg Anime and manga adaptations
https://pastebin.com/hQ0N9XEG /vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides
http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u Super Rescue Mail Converter
https://eddyk28.github.io/SRC/ Feel free to post rescue requests.
REMINDER: If it's a PSMD rescue request, post your region.
Who did you pick as your hero?:
https://www.strawpoll.me/19501976 Who did you pick as your partner?:
https://www.strawpoll.me/19501985 Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSYUXMw_HFo
Anonymous
Best starter for explorers?
Anonymous
I mean ascetic autism aside anon has a point, Megas are generally useless. I've found no use for them and I'm essentially done with the major points of the game.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Does Charizard count as a flying unit in the new game or is it on the ground. I forgot how this worked in Super Mystery Dungeon too. In the old games it's on the ground right?
Anonymous
>>43010109 Budew is in the game?! WHAT?
Anonymous
Can you revive a team member at all if they died on an earlier floor? If not, why is he still considered part of my current team of 8?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010156 I'm pretty sure you could in Super.
Anonymous
>>43010122 They were probably shoved in without much thought. I'm genuinely surprised they are even acknowledging mega evolutions still. I prefer megas to Z-moves and gigamaxing but the fact that only a handful of mons have megas with no new plans to make more is really messy and underwhelming. They should either make more or scrap them entirely.
Anonymous
>>43010156 When all your pokemon faint in a dungeon and you rescue them succesfully they all come back to life, even those recruited in the dungeon.
I dont know whether there are any other instances where you can revive previously fallen pokemon, though,
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010179 Yeah it leads me to believe this was in the works basically right after Super released since Megas were still the new hotness back then.
So sometime past early development they had to transition from 3DS to Switch, which would explain why we had to wait 5 years for a remake and why its not modernized with up-to-date Pokemon gimmicks.
Anonymous
>>43010121 Pikachu, Shinx, and Vulpix. Definitely use Vulpix. Block is busted in EoS.
Anonymous
Anyone know if the ost has been ripped yet?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010285 Look on YT, anon.
Anonymous
how many shinies are in the game? all of them or a small number
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010294 Only like.. 20 or so? Maybe a bit more. It's specific pokemon.
Anonymous
>>43010122 >>43010179 Megas and awakening are literally just super mode from Shiren with pokemon flavour, stop pretending it has any deeper meaning than that
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>43010344 >implying Pokefags play other games Anonymous
Quoted By:
>shitters are still crying about the babymode game PMD is
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010283 Would Vulpix only work as the MC or can the partner make use of block as well?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010109 >the game has input lag and framerate issues up the ass OH NO NO NO NO
MD BROS! WERE WE TOO COCKY? THIS REMAKE IS TRASH!
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>retard is still seething he's too poor to afford remake or pc that can emulate switch
Anonymous
>Pikachu being faster boosts damage and one shots everything so far
Anonymous
>>43010481 that being said, is there any electric move better than Electroball in this game?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010403 I play other games, just not other MD games.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Who's a good partner for Skitty? Charmander maybe?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Small Stomach is so kino. You get full stomach from things like plain seeds/any berries/ect. ANYTHING that gives you belly.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Did they finally fix exp groups? I remember the starters needing like 100 exp to level up to 6 from 5, but the first magnemite you get at level 5 needs like 2000 or 5000 or something to get to 6, and the level up was way worse. Absolute insanity.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Yeah, i'm going to go ahead and say that Magma Cavern is the WORST main story dungeon.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>43010642 Yeah it's pretty shit in my opinion, throughout the whole main game I never died except for Magma Cavern where I died 5+ times and had to grind to get through. My team of Eevee and Pikachu was pretty bad against the Pokemon in there especially Rhydon, which could kill me easy with multi-hitting attacks. Maybe I would have found it easier if my team was different.
Anonymous
>>43010642 >25 fucking floors >annoying as fuck mobs that hit real hard >pain in the ass if you don't run a based cuboner >all to kill a piss easy pushover boss >shitty soundtrack as well, and that's after based mt blaze which is the same thing but not bad Anonymous
Quoted By:
WHATS THE BEST POKE FOR PURITY FOREST IN REMAKE
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>43010647 It's a 20+ floor dungeon with strong ass pokemon that refuse to die that also have moves that hit your tire party. It's worse in this game because you have to manage more than just two pokemon if you want to beat the boss. If you have 8 pokemon with you, you can bet your ass all of you resources are going to your new teammates.
Anonymous
>>43010728 >you have to manage more than just two pokemon if you want to beat the boss. wrong
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010683 I had Meowth and Totodile and I still got fucked up.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010728 At least you're not forced to revive your teammates. I just use them as meat shields and let them die most of the time.
man that sounds evil Anonymous
>>43010741 Wait, are you shitting me? How many mons should I take with me? I had like 6 total before I rage quit.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010758 You can beat any boss in this game with 3 Pokemon soundly, anything else is just a bonus
Anonymous
Anonymous
Is it possible to recruit a Snubbull anywhere before postgame? Maybe through Wonder Mail? If not, I'm gonna make Swinub my permanent 3rd member.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010758 like 2 or 1, i beat story groudon with my starter and trusty rollout spammer geodude, in postgame a minmaxed spheal can probably destroy its ass solo with zero effort before sleep seed even runs out
Anonymous
>>43010852 Unless you come across him needing an apple, Remains Island. So most likely no unless RNG favors you.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010140 Riolu, Lucario and all pre-Sword/Shield cross-gens are in the game
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010156 >>43010239 I think the reviver orb does that
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010403 I do play Shiren (the original and the remake, I don't have a Vita unfortunately) and lately I've seen PMD fans here talk about Shiren more often.
Anonymous
>>43010642 It's my favorite story dungeon so far, I enjoyed the game actually presenting a little bit of a challenge for the first time.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Anyone need any rescues before I hop into a long dungeon?
Anonymous
>>43011044 >>43010642 Actually disregard that I mixed it up with Mt Blaze. Magma Cavern is next, now I'm curious. Still I'm guessing it won't be that hard though kek
Anonymous
>All this crying about dungeons
Anonymous
Is there a way to farm Evolution Crystals fast?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011056 They bumped it a little, enemies hit really hard and some bosses have arena mechanics/Huge AOE attacks.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011056 It does feel harder. I found the original pretty easy as a kid and seem to be dying a lot more often now. I don’t know if it’s actually harder or if I just became retarded at some point.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011059 Some of the 20 or so floor post game dungeons have them at the end. See them in dungeon shops too.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>Want to use a wide variety of pokemon in sky >See how many gummis you actually fuckin need to max IQ
Anonymous
>>43011059 this image reminds me
how do they send out rescue jobs anyways?
Anonymous
how do I waste a turn so an enemy can walk one space closer to me without the can forcefully using a two tile move like quick attack?
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>43011158 Pokemon that brought flares, have moves that can signal flying pokemon, etc. probably solicit pelippers to deliver requests for help. Pokemon incapable of that are the ones that have other pokemon write the request to look. Pokemon that have neither
die Anonymous
Can Smeargle not learn the room-clearing moves like discharge and blizzard? I'm trying to sketch them from my teammates but sketch fails
Anonymous
>>43011218 Have you sketched anything else from teammates? Might not work on them, as dumb as that would be.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011239 I have not but that would be dumb considering the move details it as targeting all
Anonymous
Is the basic pp-less attack in DX?
Anonymous
Holy shit I fucking hate autosave
Anonymous
>>43011313 Nope. It's even more fucked up than Super, it's not even there anymore. Honestly less insulting than making it 5 damage flat, though. Fucking retarded all around, though.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
has anybody recruited kec yet?
Anonymous
MDDX, pls send help. 12F of Great Canyon.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011048 Have fun dealing Nidokings and Rhydons, having all of your party struck by strong moves from across the room, and getting getting hit by Rollout five times in a row. Bring lots of revives.
Anonymous
>>43011392 Accidentally posted from AUS for some reason
Anonymous
>>43011406 I'm in Pitfall Valley, but if you still need help when I'm done I'll hop in.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
So how early can you get Riolu/Lucario in DX?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>43011406 >>43011416 Alright, I'm out of the dungeon. Do you have someone on the way or do you need me to blast through?
Anonymous
Finally done with that shit.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011473 Don’t swear here, you butthead.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011496 On my way then.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011406 >>43011467 >>43011496 Someone still hasn’t helped this guy? You guys are all FRAUDS. You should have your rescue team badges taken away...
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011489 Found X Ray Glasses on around floor 20 which allowed me to plan ahead a lot more. I also didn't miss half my moves that run. Lost an earlier run on floor 33 after missing 4 times in a row.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011182 >Pokemon that have neither So those would be the random pokemon you find passed out in dungeons?
Anonymous
Slugmas with Incinerate on Mt. Blaze are upsetting me
Anonymous
>>43011313 >>43011332 >>43011324 >being mad an easy game is slightly harder than expected Konomi Suzuki Lover !aNRFNkpkG.
How do I farm more of that Accuracy item? I got a Spheal through a special reward and taught it Blizzard, and I want to make much use out of it in Sky Tower and beyond (i.e. try not to miss so much).
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>43011560 Autosave doesn’t make it harder, just more tedious because if you fail to recruit a boss you have to redo the dungeon
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011572 Rescue other people with Deluxe rewards online, they give stat ups/move items a lot.
Anonymous
>>43011560 I'm the basic attack guy, it just triggers me that they removed a good feature of the game, and especially pulled some bad game design in Super. Super wants you to conserve PP by giving less PP to the moves and giving less elixir? Great! Sounds interesting. Now you're forced to pick between reduced EXP and less damage with basic attacks and saving PP, and have to strategize on who you kill with moves and who you kill with basic attacks.
...Or that WOULD have been the case, but they also nerfed the basic attack to an abysmal, insulting 5 damage with no increases, essentially leaving it as a turn waster for mons one tile away and totally nullifying their "save PP" idea. Just terrible. Not mad at it making the game "harder", mad at it being sloppy and shitty.
Konomi Suzuki Lover !aNRFNkpkG.
>>43011576 This. I wish there was at least an option to turn it off like in SwSh since autosave means you need to not fuck up.
Anonymous
>>43011575 You're my hero, thank you!
Anonymous
>>43011604 Np! Sorry iut took so long, I had like 10+ floors to go when I was in the other dungeon and then had cutscenes.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Jesus fuck maneuvering in dungeons with more than 1 large pokemon is miserable
Anonymous
Alright, lads. I FINALLY made it through the first 24 floors of Magma Cavern and I have like 7 pokemon and 8 revives with me... Wish me luck.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Uhh does anyone have a screenshot of the home menu save screen that's 100% filled? Like the icons after you beat a legendary?
Anonymous
>>43011576 >>43011597 >cheating doesn't make it easier! just let me cheat! >>43011594 There's no need for a basic attack at all
Anonymous
This treasure bonus thing is Insane
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>43011620 I did it boys. The Quality that drops your opponent's Attack and SP. Attack when they attack you is broken and based.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>43011678 Which one was it called?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011695 Nevermind, I didn't see the other post
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011313 Yes and no, it does exist but you cannot use it because reasons
Anonymous
>>43011651 >saving and retrying something in a video game is morally wrong and should be disallowed by the makers of the game This has to be bait
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011653 >treasure bonus thing what
Anonymous
>>43011651 >There's no need for a basic attack at all >Not absolutely necessary = not a good mechanic and should be removed Let's remove all items except apples while we're at it, too! Those aren't necessary.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011594 >Now you're forced to pick between reduced EXP and less damage with basic attacks and saving PP The idea is you're forced between using moves and using items like wands and blast seeds. There's a reason they give you so many of those.
Anonymous
>>43011726 It's factually correct. I don't care if you want to cheat, but you shouldn't be surprised if the game has some anti-cheating mechanism in place, and you shouldn't claim that you aren't a cheater when you are.
>>43011732 The problem with the basic attack is that it's way too powerful and can be used at any moment with no disadvantages. Remove these characteristics and it's either so different that it's not the same mechanic, or near useless like in the 3DS games. Removing it entirely and building the game around 4 limited moves was the best choice.
>items aren't necessary Wrong.
Anonymous
see you in the level 100 club lads
Anonymous
>>43011760 No other PMD game or Pokemon game in general prevents you from “cheating”
Anonymous
Quoted By:
megas are poorly balanced and poorly implemented. I got the game because I thought they would actually be usable but it's an autistic grind with no payoff to even get them working.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011760 >you shouldn't be surprised if the game has some anti-cheating mechanism in place why not pick the not exiting dungeon correctly means you died the actual MD games use and not rape your memory with autosaving literally every step
Anonymous
>>43011760 >Wrong. Epic, you gonna provide some examples of being objectively unable to beat the game without items (barring apples) or just shriek wrong? Also, it's hardly "too powerful", it's the weakest move in the game, but I wouldn't mind a nerf and it might actually add to the difficulty of choice between using it or not if it was even weaker but actually scaled instead of staying at 5 damage. Maybe like a maximum of 45 damage?
Anonymous
who thought it was a good idea to make megas disabled by two status moves and not by the rest of them?
Anonymous
Masquerain trying really hard to improve. Tiny steps were made.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011804 better than it being a time limit with you going apeshit when it runs out
Anonymous
Quoted By:
If it's in the game, it's usable. Simple as.
Anonymous
>>43011779 Wrong, the original Rescue Team did it in Joyous Tower and Purity Forest.
>>43011796 >examples of being objectively unable to beat the game without items It's either that or grinding until you're over leveled. Story bosses are particularly strong and you're expected to use items. If you allow me to point at previous games, they were absolutely necessary in Super and that game didn't even allow grinding at all.
>it's hardly "too powerful", it's the weakest move in the game Did you play the original game? It was quite strong, especially when you're high level. It became a lot less powerful in Explorers, but it was still too much.
Anonymous
>>43011821 But it's not NECESSARY to have items. The point being, basic attacks aren't necessary either, but they're a great QoL change. The point about the originals is fair, I've been playing a lot of Explorers where it does a lot less, so my perception of the basic attack then may be skewed. I do think the games would be better for having a usable one, though, even at a low damage amount, as long as it's not 5.
Anonymous
holy shit xp boost + dojo is absurd
Anonymous
Anyone else upset by how much time in this remake is spent in menus compared to the originals? I have to stop and eat an apple every 5 minutes of gameplay. Far worse, is that when you complete multiple request at once, at the end of the dungeon it goes through the rewards screen one by one, the rescue team rank increase one by one, and each pokemon has a few lines thanking you for the help (which why are they thanking me when they paid for a service that I provided?). You can't just hold b throughout this because you have to switch to a on the rewards screen.
Anonymous
I’m new to the series and I’m hard stuck on Moltres in DX... I just keep dying and can’t find new Reviver Seeds or Oran Berries in the Rock Path so the fight actually gets harder every time I try it. Moltres recovers from every status condition in one turn and uses Agility, so wands feel useless. How did you guys beat this?
Anonymous
>>43011855 Not him but I fail to see a convincing argument here about why they should have kept the basic attack other than "I liked it".
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43010642 Wait till you get to Stormy Sea. 40 floors and only source of food is apple traps.
Anonymous
>>43011882 HOLY
FUCKING
SHIT
THIS WAS FROM 1 DAMN MOOK.
KEEP IN MIND BEFORE XP BOOST RARE QUALITY DOJO MOOKS WERE GIVING 600 EXP
Anonymous
>>43011913 Your time is already devalued if you're playing a fucking video game dude. Get over yourself.
Although I do agree about having to watch the rescue point bar fill up every time.
Anonymous
>>43011916 Recruit a bunch of goons and throw them at it. An all-dodge orb or something similar can also trivialize bosses if confuse wands don't do it for you.
Anonymous
>>43011919 Is there a problem with that? It's a good PP conservation option, would have gone phenomenally with the drive to conserve PP in Super, really helpful in level 1 dungeons where you need everything you can get, overall it's a very helpful feature that makes the game better as a result of its inclusion. How is that not enough? You don't *need* it, but my point is that you don't *need* a lot of things that make the game better, but it's great that they're there and taking them away would be retarded, just like taking away the basic attack, especially when they had such a good thing going with the lowering of the availability of PP.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011916 >he didn't save 5 blast seeds and some revivers Anonymous
>>43011942 Can you recruit in the fugitive part of the story? Nothing has asked to join me the three times I’ve been through Mt. Blaze.
Anonymous
>>43011965 >Can you recruit in the fugitive part of the story? no
Anonymous
>>43011913 Rewards screens are annoying, but you're spending a lot less time in combat menus than in the original. You're seriously exaggerating the apples. I think I used like 2 apples in the entire main story.
Anonymous
>>43011976 >I think I used like 2 apples in the entire main story. bullshit
Anonymous
>>43009457 >no effect I thought moves opponents were immune to always still did damage in PMD, but just were like 1/4th damage. Did they change that for DX?
>>43011808 Shouldn't have evolved Surskit.
>>43011913 In the original, you had to spend so much more time teleporting between Friend Areas and walking into them to access members to add to your team. Any amount of menuing in this game still adds up to less time than you had to spend in the original tweaking tactics and such because followers were retards who'd conga line onto explosion traps if you didn't carefully micromanage them.
Anonymous
https://vocaroo.com/iR7DByZ5YW6 Does anyone know what this sound effect is? Found it digging through original RT's sfx, never heard anything like it. Recognize the laugh at the end, but the sound on the whole.
Anonymous
>>43011990 You now you can switch leaders at any time, right? And that your allies have their own bellies? There's no way you can go through a story dungeon and use more than 200 units of hunger.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011936 I like the story of the game
I enjoy creating builds for pokemon that can beat the difficult endgame content
I enjoy testing my ability to react to procedural generated dungeons when I don't get to brong my own items into the dungeon and am reset to lv 1
My time is only wasted when I'm doing something pointless and trivial, like the menus at the end of a dungeon that take way too long.
My time is not wasted nor devalued by 'playing a fucking videogame' and your attempt to reduce playing games to a waste of time can be applied to anything in life. Why educate yourself and get a job when you'll die in the end anyways?
Anonymous
>>43011994 >Shouldn'tve evolved surskit The games are STILL making evos gain way less than pre-evos? Holy fuck. You think they'd have learned that was shitty and stupid by now.
Anonymous
is there a high quality version of this illustration?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011996 the laugh is from ghost curse so maybe an early curse sfx
Anonymous
>>43011997 there's also a million hunger traps, accidental pushing and two big ass dungeons
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012005 >machops scarf is clearly visible here >ingame model scarf is barely visible Anonymous
>>43012004 PMD is all about appreciating NFE mons that aren't viable in the main series.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012009 >two big ass dungeons There's your two apples my dude. No need to thank me.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011994 >>In the original, you had to spend so much more time teleporting between Friend Areas and walking into them to access members to add to your team. Any amount of menuing in this game still adds up to less time than you had to spend in the original tweaking tactics and such because followers were retards who'd conga line onto explosion traps if you didn't carefully micromanage them. I think its fair to say both versions of the game have huge chunks of time wasting.
Maybe a mod or update in the DX version will eventually let us skip the end of dungeon screens or at least see every reward in one screen and the rescue bar move up all at once.
Anonymous
>>43012020 Well, yeah, but you want to evolve them at some point, yknow? Maybe gain a crucial move or typing. IDK, I wish they had just kept the stat gains the same all across the line.
Anonymous
>>43012004 Masquerain gets moves that Surskit doesn't, no?
Silver WInd and Ominous Wind are worth the evolve.
Anonymous
>>43011936 >having to watch the rescue point bar fill up every time You can skip the animation by pressing B.
>>43011913 >how much time in this remake is spent in menus compared to the originals Not at all, in fact, I'm spending less time in menus since there are more shortcuts, more buttons and you don't need menus to choose your moves.
>I have to stop and eat an apple every 5 minutes I'm not eating many apples at all
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012032 The thing that bothers me the most is they couldn't model the scarves for MC and partner on the evos. That wouldn't have even taken that long.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011965 >>43011968 >Can you recruit in the fugitive part of the story? Yes, but only when you enter a dungeon from Pelipper mode
Anonymous
>>43012033 See
>>43012032 It's annoying that you have to keep it a surskit till like 78 for it to be worth it. It also instills a deep paranoia about evolving. Have you gotten the best level ups? Are you evolving it before it hits those, and you're gonna be doomed to miss both the pre-evo's best levels and the evo's best levels? It's just so fucking stressful.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012032 >but you want to evolve them at some point, yknow? no i dont
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012004 >gain way less Evolving was always around equal more than a flat downgrade or upgrade. Sometimes it's worth evolving for new moveset or type potentials, while other times evolving really puts you in the shitter because you get a bad ability or something.
Off the top of my head, in past games it was better to evolve into Empoleon, while leaving Smoochum unevolved for example.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012047 In the end, it doesn't matter. You can bring a mon through Kool-aid runs through Buried to get their stats maxxed. One run is enough for the hp, and your stats to all be in the 100-200s.
Anonymous
>>43012047 stop caring about minmaxing fucking autist, this game is piss easy and stat boost items are super common in buried relic
Anonymous
>>43012037 >>You can skip the animation by pressing B. It doesn't skip it. It makes it move slightly faster and still takes a long time. YOu also can't just hold because you need to press a on reward screen.
The post didn't even mention it but you also have to say goodnight to you partner, say good morning to your partner, and watch peliper deliver. Peliper was as bad in the original, but the partner thing is new to DX in postgame.
Get on your phone and open the timer app and time how long it takes from when you finish a dungeon to when you gain control of the game again. Then estimate how many dungeon runs you did. Its a lot of time wasted.
Anonymous
>>43012061 It just feels bad, because pokemon that have bad stats in this game have REALLY bad fuckin' stats. Especially in original RT. +1 atk and sp atk. on level up makes you want to die.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011950 >>43011950 See you would have an argument if they didn't compensate you with an influx of PP items. But they did so as it stands the basic attack would serve no function but to be a no risk attack. Therefore in the games current state adding the basic attack back would worsen the game in my opinion.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Any good way to get money? Just entered postgame and now i need ludicrous amounts of dosh for all these camps and stupid high move learner prices
Anonymous
>Mirror Move isn't broken like in the original RT games
Anonymous
>>43012105 Heal Bell to completely negate the need to bring Heal Seeds.
Even works on things you wouldn't expect, like Bind or Perish Song.
Anonymous
>>43012079 What version of the game are you playing where stats determine a Pokemon's worth and not their movepool?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>groudon earthquakes everyone >puts beedrill into Swarm range >mfw pin missile+never miss multihits+high speed
Anonymous
>Recruit miltank >Will use milk drink every possible step/turn you take, regardless of whether anyone is missing any HP, until it's out of PP
Anonymous
>>43012130 autist tard version
Anonymous
>>43012130 The Level 1 dungeon version of this game.
Which still doesn't make any fucking sense because you're stuck in one form the entire time; outside of that you just spam buffs to 255 everything.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012139 You're meant to leaderswap to a support, their AI is absolutely atrocious.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012130 It's just irritating that some pokemon are irredeemably shitty. I don't have time to grind up calcium and shit to drag Shaymin, Magnemite etc. up to where actually good pokemon wind up.
>>43012140 >>43012146 I'd say it's more autistic to 255/999 everyone. Lotta fucking work.
Anonymous
Is Electro Ball really better than Thunderbolt on Pikachu?
Anonymous
>soloed fug with fury swipes while my partner keeps on getting blown away
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012139 >AI set to Follow Me >Everysingle time I try to get them so they can attack an enemy they walk behind me instead >Even if I circle around them they'll follow me like a retard Anonymous
holy shit with exp boost you can be on par with the pokemons in purity forest Jesus fuck
Anonymous
>>43012192 I dunno why even have partners when fug is literally just spam multihit until it dies like a bitch
Anonymous
>>43012139 >escorting golem >golem used rock polish! double speed! triple speed! >Golem used rock polish! Quadruple speed! Can’t go any faster! >take one step toward enemy on the other side of the floor long room >Golem is at triple speed! >Golem used rock polish! >repeat 4 trillion times till I reach the poliwag that’s causing him to go apeshit NEVER FUCKING AGAIN
Anonymous
>>43012214 Leveling was always a major complaint in these games, so it’s a welcome addition. Just maybe not so early in the game.
Anonymous
>>43012219 turn the move off retard, whyu did you enable it?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012217 Maybe if everyone wasn't funneling towards the most unbalanced thing in the game...
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012239 I can’t, I’m escorting it.
Anonymous
Are there any Pokemon in this game who are actually bad and never worth using?
Anonymous
>>43012239 He said "escorting". You can't mess with the moves of guest pokemon.
Anonymous
>>43012071 I just tapped B and it skipped the animation
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012120 Hmm I'm already using Milk Drink and Perish Song + Mind Reader so I was looking for a more offensive option to use in boss fights.
Heal Bell definitely is something to keep on mind though, so I might swap it if I ever need it.
Anonymous
>>43012253 Pokemon that can't learn a multi hit or room clear attack.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012139 disable the move
in super and rtdx status moves are disabled by default for this reason
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012253 If the past games' standards are to go by, Wobbuffet line's one of em.
A whole lot are useless in Level 1 too.
Anonymous
>>43012258 You are mistaken. You are at the chest opening thing after a dungeon. I'm talking about the rescue mission rewards cut scene.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012253 Unown, probably. One move with as little PP as hidden power has is horrible for a game where you use this much PP
Anonymous
>>43012276 I'm talking about the circle filling up when you get points after a mission. Is that not what you're talking about?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012264 As long as it can use a bunvh of 4 tile range attacks and a 'nearby' range attack a pokemon is redeemable. Bullet Seed, Barrage, and Pin Missile are one thing (well 3), but without leap ahead the range is better on partner pokemon,
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012264 He said bad and never worth using, not slightly less than optimal.
Anonymous
>>43010109 why are some of my pokemon just leveling up passively in camp? I caught a dustox around level 20 and over the course of the game hes gone to level 53 without me ever bringing him in a dungeon
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012304 You answered your own question. They all do that.
Anonymous
>>43012304 Because in RTDX camp mons get some of the exp you earn in dungeons
Anonymous
>>43012256 that'd break the game with some pokes
Anonymous
>>43012289 I'm talking about the whole cut scene after you finish a rescue mission and yes the circle is part of it. You can skip it to make it fill up fast, but when you complete several missions at once theres no way to make the circle go up all at once, you have to watch it in separate increments of 50-250 (whatever the reward is) for each mission.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011770 mediocre at best
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012304 I'm pretty sure you can out two and two together to figure out that your camp members earn passive XP.
Anonymous
So how exactly do i get postgame quests? Just play the game until they pop up in mail?
Anonymous
Please save my ass. Lava cave sucks hard.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011059 Just hit floor 99 of Buried Relic: 8 evolution crystals, 4 deluxe chests.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012340 Explore town. Explore new dungeons that open up.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012318 Ok? It’s what happens though.
Anonymous
>>43012318 What mons/ moves would break the game? curious
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011158 same way there are orbs that warp space and time
its fuckin pokemon idk pokes prolly have a badge that sends an sos
Anonymous
>>43012457 id say because you can have so many followers being able to fine tune their move sets could make your party unbeatable
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012315 ty
i wonder what the percentage is
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012467 your party is already unbeatable when you status the boss and then lay into it with your RBE multihitter(s), goons do literally nothing of value
Anonymous
Would it be better for me to evolve myself and my partner Pokemon or keep them as babies?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012231 I'm glad it's less of an issue, makes me more likely to try and recruit all Pokemon and it just reduces the grind for putting some Pokemon I want on my team.
Anonymous
>>43012486 Depends on if you care about the aesthetic or want to make use of certain niches.
If I remember right, Charizard being able to ignore Earth Power and any of Eevee's is an upgrade to their base form.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012486 Charizard is straight up better than Charmander for lvl 1 dungeons since it starts with Heat Wave. Being able to fly is also nice.
Anonymous
IM GONNA FUCKING MAKE IT BROS
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012498 My team right now is Skitty and Treeko, I'd like to keep Skitty as a baby since I don't care much for Delcatty and I like the scarf. But should I evolve Treeko to Sceptile for mega evolution?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012515 no enjoy getting haxxed to death
Anonymous
Would you all be happy if they gave Explorers the remake treatment as well? If they did, would you want a remake before or after a Gen 4 remake?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011931 Unfortunately, Dojo EXP is not shared with the rest of the Team. Only the one going in gets it.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012541 I would enjoy it, but I'd prefer a new game.
I don't want a Diamond and Pearl remake at all.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012541 only after a proper new fucking game come on i can't believe making a MD game is hard when they made a full 2D MD game for a dead ass console
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012541 I'd assume a lot of people would say no because of the sprites or because Explorers is "already polished as-is" but leveling the IQ system is gutter trash since you'll only ever get to buff one mon fully or about halfway by endgame, depending on the set. And there's still quite a bit of padding/other minor inconveniences that could be touched up on the same way RTDX did, just not as significant. Aegis Cave comes to mind in terms of being an obnoxious time waster, and mon placement could be done better than just slapping a billion mons you never see anywhere else into a single type-based postgame dungeon.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012515 I was lvl 35 when I finished it earlier.
Anonymous
What happens to move tutor moves and TMs in lv 99 dungeons?
Anonymous
>set partner’s tactics to “don’t use moves” hoping it will use a blast seed while I throw a sleep seed >partner walks in a random direction away from the boss and does nothing
Anonymous
>>43012515 So is Purity Forest easier than it was in the original?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012643 Speaking of which, why can't you feed Blast Seeds to your partner?
You can change leaders during boss battles btw
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>enter buried relic >all of these fucking items in the walls
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012647 It’s still ball busting hard but you can go in with rare quality’s and you can recruit pokes
With XP boost I’m over leveling the Pokémon and in purity forest that’s saying something.
Anonymous
>>43012638 Assuming you mean the lvl 1 dungeons, each Pokemon has a fixed set of moves for that. Your Pokemon will have the old moves again once you leave the dungeon so you do not lose those. Any TMs you have learned inside the dungeon will be gone tho.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012732 that's fucking gay
Anonymous
If you bring X-Ray Glasses and someone who can walk through walls, can you grab all the items in the Buried Relic dungeon easily?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012753 yes
prepare anus for eating a shit ton of apples
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Primal groudon wiped me out miserably.
Anonymous
Dumb question, but is it possible to save scum after you feed a Pokemon a gummy to keep resetting and get the rare quality you want?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>43012780 It's the best Pokemon, right here, and now joining me forever
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>43012792 >>43012799 >>Let's Go mascot team. Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012778 >is it possible to save scum no
Anonymous
Anonymous
I wish there were Alola forms in the game so I could evolve my starter into Alolan Marowak
Anonymous
Just recruited Delibird.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>43012843 present has always been a meme move
Anonymous
>>43012778 If you have Nintendo Switch Online for cloud saves, yes.
Anonymous
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DOES PERSIAN WALK LIKE A ROBLOX CHARACTER AND HAVE AN UGLY RUN I WANT TO GO BACK TURN ME BACK TURN ME BACK TURN ME BACK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous
>>43012838 >lose bonemerang and earth power lmao no
>>43012851 Do they even work with RTDX?
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012855 If you use Yuzu or a hacked switch you can do it without NSO
Anonymous
>>43012850 >>43012843 Hold up. After seeing some Present in action, this is actually a good heal move with the AI. Delibirb can teleport to teammates and heal
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012886 Altaria stepped on a warp trap
Got throttled accross the map by an ememy
Delibird used Present
Teleports to Altaria and heals and provides support.
I like Delibird a lot
Anonymous
>>43012854 No one can beat Ekans in this game for ugliest animations. No one even tried with him.
Anonymous
>>43012915 Why would anyone try for a shitmon no one likes?
Anonymous
>>43012923 Because he shows up in cutscenes a lot.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
DX is the definitive version of BRT, in my opinion. Just finished the main story and I have to say I had a great time. All of the changes and additions have been pleasant for the most part.
Anonymous
>people are still crying about the removal of basic attacks
Anonymous
>>43012939 No. Basic attacks were viable and got you though the mob floors of dungeons without using moves.
Now you have to pause and use an elixir every time a move runs out.
More time spent menuing does not make for a better game.
Anonymous
>>43012929 Team Losers deserves shit animations
Anonymous
>>43012955 >>kekkkeeekekeeka You're the loser. Team Meanies is based.
Anonymous
>>43012954 >"WTF I HAVE TO MANAGE PP NOW?!@?#@!" Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012954 Having to manage PP and inventory more does add to the challenge, and gives you a reason to consider not always engaging in combat if it can be avoided rather than always go for it for the exp.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012955 Kill yourself, go back to rescuing Caterpies, faggot.
Also, this
>>43012983 Anonymous
I haven't got the game yet, but I'm considering using Cubone and Bulbasaur for a redemption run since I gave up on that team in RRT and restarted as a kid because I just could not beat Articuno. Am I going to suffer as much this time around with that shared Ice weakness?
Anonymous
Heracross is pretty broke, with the multihit RQ, pin missile, bullet seed and earthquake aoe, not to mention skill link with the mega.
Anonymous
>>43012999 You say that as if the game doesn't shower you with elixirs making managing PP trivial. Its just a tedious thing you have to do in the menu
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013029 Shut up you dumb casual retard-baby.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012999 U can manage my PP bby
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013029 >Doesn't have a mon with PP Pouch RQ Anonymous
>>43012954 I understand the appeal of basic attacks completely, they were pretty useful. But all of this arguing over it is really retarded. Elixers are very easy to come by in this game so that isn't much of an issue if you're careful. Plus managing PP adds a bit more challenge and strategy to the game. If it really bothers you that much, which it did bother me at first, the rare quality Squeeze Out can make it so you can get by without having to use many Elixrs. There's literally no reason to whine this much.
Anonymous
The game sure as hell wasn't kidding when it said there is stuff hidden in the walls in the Mew dungeon. There are so many vitamins.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013017 Not as bad as Charmander/Pikachu dying to Magnitude/Earthquake in Magma Cavern/Sky Tower?
While Move Tutor is post game, there is a Wonder Mail code to give your Cubone Flamethrower
>P 5 R 9 4 1 1 S and the All-Protect Orb should give you enough free turns to mow it down with Blast Seeds.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013053 >that Eevee poking it's head out Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013043 There is no 'managing PP'
2 RQs make PP never run out (squeeze out and PP pouch)
PP up and leveling up PP additionally makes it an unlimited resource
Elixirs and Ethers are everywhere. I had like 30 of them in Sky Tower.
All this does is punish players who don'y use Squeeze Out and PP Pouch by making them restore PP frequently losing game time. There is no 'PP management' its not difficult at all-- just tedious
Anonymous
Make the regular attack like Sky's, but a bit weaker and unable to double like a normal move.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Are you still the silent husk that you were during BRT’s post game in DX?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013094 Maybe a flat damage like gates/super but it increases based on your level somehow instead of just being 5 of the whole game? I agree it shouldn't be able to work like a normal move, but also not be entirely useless either.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012753 Yes. I bring small stomach + food finder for it. Never run out of food, every tiny apple is a complete belly refill.
Anonymous
>get Multi-Hit Never miss RQ >it's on a Pokemon that can't learn any Multi-hits
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Any good ideas for movesets for Marowak and Gliscor? Preferably physical attacks but if I have to slap Earth Power or Blizzard then fine.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013163 My Rapid Bull's-Eye is on my Smeargle who only has Bullet Seed. If it can learn room wide attacks then teach it those and put it on a team with Heracross
Anonymous
>>43013020 What is Heracross' Friend Area? Was thinking of getting one on and I need a physical attacker.
Anonymous
>>43013196 Overgrown forest?
Anonymous
What's a good pokemon for the low level dungeons?
Anonymous
>>43010109 What level should I be before I fight Fug?
Me and my partner are at level 43
Anonymous
does technician suck ass in this game because of move growth? just got a shiny ambipom with it
Anonymous
>>43013208 I thought it was Safari?
And do moves go back to base level in lv 1 dungeons? Is there a reason to go back and level up stuff like ember for lv dungeons?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>no genders in gameplay >still know which of my crew is a boy or a girl because they reuse Explorers' recruit dialogue pool
Anonymous
>>43013214 Ur overleveled u fuck
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013220 Its not Safari, and I haven't checked if moves level down.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013227 >partner is female totodile >can barely see her as girl >evolve her during postgame >can’t see her as a girl anymore Fuck it, my partner is androgynous now.
Anonymous
>>43013229 Me and my partner still jobbed to Groudon tho
Anonymous
Leap Ahead and Wary Walk are my favorite Rare Qualities
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013218 in psmd it stopped working when your moves levelled up too much so presumably the same here
Anonymous
>>43013248 Kek.
I was level 24 when I hit fug.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013163 >he didn't encounter a RBE Skill Link Shellder Anonymous
Should I buy DX or the new Animal Crossing?
Anonymous
>>43013209 Mew can learn every TM you find, Charizard starts with Heat Wave, Alakazam has high stats and teleport to fug off if things go south.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013265 I was in my mid 50s when I ran over fug, fuck knows how anyone has struggled.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013256 I don't care for the Rare Qualities that just destroy game mechanics, but stuff like Leap Ahead that gives the Pokemon following you way more to do or the qualities that help overcome recruitment RNG are appealing to me.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Rematch Fug just used Hyper Beam in a direction that it only would hit one pokemone....
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013277 Invest your money in something useful, and not toys.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013277 Both, but you can wait for a sale for DX.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43011537 I know that feel bro. Had a trio of them chasing me around in sunlight. One confusion trap led to yawning, powered up embers, and rock throws on my grass/fire team. My fire partner barely made it to the stairs alone, but thankfully it was before the peak checkpoint area that gave a full revive and restore.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Was doing fine until Mewtwo went mega. Help.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43012180 why not have both? One deals more damage to a single enemy. You never use Iron Tail
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013305 I have no idea myself so I can't say.
Anonymous
>>43013305 If the mainline games are anything to go by, Electro Ball is a speed based move. Unless you’re a Deoxys-S, don’t bother with it. Thunderbolt in this game hits anyone that is within one square of you so i’d say go with Thunderbolt.
Anonymous
>>43013348 I want to reiterate that I have no idea how Electro Ball works in this game and that i’m just using main games as a reference. I don’t know 100%.
Anonymous
THIS IS IT LUIGI
Anonymous
According to serebii they gave Blastoise mega launcher, and it boosts aura sphere... But Blastoise can't learn aura sphere?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013365 *Mega Blastoise
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013357 You got this shit.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013353 So I've used it a lot
Electro Ball basically deals double damage if your speed is higher
it doesn't matter how high it is as long as you are faster it auto deals the extra damage
but thunderbolt is in AoE so, there's still that
Anonymous
>>43013365 Mega Launcher is also on the Gen 6 Pokemon Clawncher, which could learn Aura Sphere, and basically all the moves that Mega Launcher boosts
of course the Pokemon itself was nothing to write home about as most are.
Cool ability but the Pokemon itself kinda sucks
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013277 I've never played AC, but from what I understand, it will probably last longer for you.
Anonymous
I miss IQ. I feel like RQs make RBE the most obvious choice. IQ allowed a lot of different strong teams to exist
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013545 Technically, having to individually level and grind up IQ for different mons discouraged you from using a wider variety than this system.
Anonymous
So I've been trying to find a balance of difficulty to where the game is challenging but still fair. Currently, I've:>turned off the map since the new map eliminates any sense of exploration >only take 2 oran, 2 ether, 2 elixir, 3 apples, and 1 of each status berry. Any items found in the dungeon are fair game to use - the only time that revives are allowed >set whole party to "follow me" to emulate the original game
Anonymous
>>43013466 In mystery dungeon. Clawncher isn't in it
Anonymous
>Can't decide on a third team member for the life of me
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013614 They still have all the mechanics programmed in case of ridiculous niche scenarios, like if an ability gets passed on through excessive Skill Swapping or the likes
Anonymous
well, i ended up beating and recruiting groudon on the second try today. this time around i managed to get a nullify orb to use when groudon turned primal. my kyogre's drizzle reactivated a couple turns later and i kept spamming water pulse until he finally fainted.
Anonymous
>>43013550 I'm also doing a challenge run. My rules are:
No TMs or egg moves (must delete egg moves at first Gulpin Visit
Only friends from the gift 4 areas can be used (+Absol when I get there)
I can't bring any pokemon with RQs into a dungeon (by not feeding gummis your starters don't get RQs)
I can't feed any vitamins or Gummis
Anything found in dungeon is fair game. If I recruit a pokemon with an RQ I get it for that dungeon but I can't take it home.
Playing this way makes the game closer to Roguelike than Roguelite. I started with Totodile and Pikachu
>>43013616 What are the other 2 members?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013643 Oh, I forgot one last rule, I empty my toolbox before any dungeon. It sounds rough but the game gives you so many apples and ethers that it doesn't matter that much.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013637 Nice bro. I ended up getting almost that far but I reset my game today because I wanted to try a new team.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013278 That was in the orginal games though.
What about the new ones, there's new stat blocks and everything
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Just barely avoided a nasty situation thanks to getting both discharge and swablu who had steamroll.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013616 Swinub would be a cute choice, they quality of life buffed Pickup if you go for Teddiursa, and Clefairy probably has some interesting move choices.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013643 Cyndaquil and Pikachu
Anonymous
Quoted By:
My Smeargle knows Blizzard, Aromatherapy, Bullet Seed
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Ditch this gay thread. THIS thread is where the cool kids hangout.
>>43013722 >>43013722 >>43013722 Anonymous
Quoted By:
>Regional variants arent in this game
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>43013614 the move works for more than just Aura Sphere you know
