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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:32:47 No.43063239 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>43063387 >>43063446 >>43063817 >>43066100 >>43066153

Truly a fate worse than death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:33:56 No.43063244 Report

Quoted By: >>43063299 >>43063421

SLOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:34:18 No.43063245 Report

Quoted By: >>43063298

It was really good in the NU SM meta.
SD sucker punch sweeps pretty nicely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:34:27 No.43063246 Report

Quoted By: >>43063421

FRAIL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:34:57 No.43063248 Report

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MIXED

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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:35:59 No.43063251 Report

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Yesh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:42:02 No.43063287 Report

Quoted By: >>43063335 >>43063430 >>43063644 >>43063812 >>43065767

The true fate worse than death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:43:25 No.43063298 Report

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>>43063245
>it‘s really good if you remove half of the pokédex!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:43:28 No.43063299 Report

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>>43063244
FRAIL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:44:53 No.43063308 Report

Quoted By: >>43063357 >>43063421

ATTACKER

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:47:56 No.43063335 Report

Quoted By: >>43063556 >>43063644

>>43063287
Rhyperior is usable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:51:04 No.43063357 Report

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>>43063308
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:55:35 No.43063387 Report

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>>43063239
Who's pathetic stats are these?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:57:45 No.43063407 Report

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>monster in trick room

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:58:25 No.43063417 Report

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>>43063387
it's Cacturne

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 01:59:05 No.43063421 Report

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>>43063244
>>43063246
>>43063248
>>43063308

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:00:14 No.43063430 Report

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>>43063287
That's not Bug/Grass.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:03:09 No.43063446 Report

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>>43063239
No, THIS is a fate worse than death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:05:25 No.43063459 Report

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>>43063430
Eh, Leavanny can be pretty decent considering how awful the typing is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:19:04 No.43063556 Report

Quoted By: >>43063585 >>43063644 >>43063676

>>43063335
rhyperior's good because it has good stats + movepool
/vp/ doesn't want to believe it but there's more to a pokemon than just typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:21:56 No.43063585 Report

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>>43063556
parasect

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:32:14 No.43063644 Report

Quoted By: >>43063682

>>43063287
It's shit defensively, but offensively it's amazing. STAB EdgeQuake hurts a whole lot of shit.

>>43063335
>>43063556
Rhyperior is too slow. Trick Room makes it better, but not by much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:35:03 No.43063676 Report

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>>43063556
>/vp/ doesn't want to believe it but there's more to a pokemon than just typing
>He says, stating the typing is bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:36:05 No.43063682 Report

Quoted By: >>43063700 >>43063734

>>43063644
>Rhyperior is too slow
And?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:38:39 No.43063700 Report

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>>43063682
on top of that, it's also really ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:41:56 No.43063734 Report

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>>43063682
And its typing is shit defensively. It has great physical bulk to partially make up for it, but its special defense is garbage. It doesn't have the overall defenses needed to make up for it. It's not a "good" Pokemon. It's "okay" with Trick Room, not great, but that's more TR's fault. It really needs a TR setting ability or some shit.

And just throwing in what the other anon said, but it is pretty ugly. Always liked Rhydon more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:48:35 No.43063776 Report

Quoted By: >>43063892

>>43063734
>. It's not a "good" Pokemon. It's "okay" with Trick Room, not great,
Rhyperior is a great Pokemon. It's typing lets it check tons of physical threats as a bulky pivot and hit hard back while also being able to set up rocks. There's a reason it's been OU viable since Gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:49:45 No.43063785 Report

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>>43063676
How does that contradict anything?
Rhyperior's typing is bad, but there's more to Rhyperior than just the typing, so it's good overall.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:54:02 No.43063812 Report

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>>43063287
>any combination of rock/steel/ice
>rock/fire
>ground/rock

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:54:50 No.43063817 Report

Quoted By: >>43063825 >>43064088

>>43063239
Are you sure about that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:56:09 No.43063825 Report

Quoted By: >>43063833 >>43063847

>>43063817
the ultimate
who is he

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:57:13 No.43063833 Report

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>>43063825
>he doesn't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 02:58:47 No.43063847 Report

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>>43063825
Aegislash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:01:04 No.43063862 Report

Quoted By: >>43063870

>>43063785
>Rhyperior's typing is bad
It’s not

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:02:48 No.43063870 Report

Quoted By: >>43063965

>>43063862
Really? Anything with a special grass or water move can rape it even with Solid Rock and Assault Vest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:04:48 No.43063892 Report

Quoted By: >>43063910 >>43063986 >>43064012 >>43064042

>>43063776
>There's a reason it's been OU viable since Gen 6.
By what metric? Not listed in any of the OU viability threads in gens V - VII. It's B- in gen IV, back when it was shiny and new.

It's effective against physical attackers, but it melts against any half competent special attacker. It has six weaknesses, three of which are very common in OU. On top of that, it's fairly easy to predict. It's not good. Especially not in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:08:35 No.43063910 Report

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>>43063892
randbats :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:17:46 No.43063965 Report

Quoted By: >>43064006

>>43063870
Yes anon, every Pokémon has weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:20:17 No.43063986 Report

Quoted By: >>43063993

>>43063892
>It's not good
Yes it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:21:06 No.43063993 Report

Quoted By: >>43064094

>>43063986
You and I seem to have very different definitions of "good", anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:23:04 No.43064006 Report

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>>43063965
not mega fug

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:23:40 No.43064012 Report

Quoted By: >>43064031 >>43064250

>>43063892
>Not listed in any of the OU viability threads in gens V - VII.
>https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ss-ou-viability-ranking-thread-see-post-321.3658351/
It's right there in C+ besides Pelipper and Mimikyu. Don't lie to support your point, anon. It's not the best right now, but it still has a niche even with Draco running around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:26:59 No.43064031 Report

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>>43064012
What lie? SS is gen VIII.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:29:01 No.43064042 Report

Quoted By: >>43064058

>>43063892
It was decent in Gen 6, especially for that 6 or so month span where birdspam was everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:31:28 No.43064058 Report

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>>43064042
Gonna have to be specific, I remember smogonbird being everywhere the whole gen. Took nerfing gale wings into the ground to get it to stop.

With that said, it was also a meta where smogonwash was common. Which OHKO'd Rhyperior easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:36:20 No.43064088 Report

Quoted By: >>43064133

>>43063817
Do you think GF made Aegislash slow for balance purposes?
Like they thought "Hey, this Pokemon can 150 in Atk, Def, SpA, and SpD. We'd better give it really low speed." and completely failed to realize that it's often better off moving last?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:37:10 No.43064094 Report

Quoted By: >>43064108

>>43063993
Not really

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:40:01 No.43064108 Report

Quoted By: >>43064179 >>43065756

>>43064094
If you think Rhyperior is anything resembling "good" competitively we do. Sorry for insulting your favorite Pokemon, I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:44:13 No.43064133 Report

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>>43064088
>for all intents and purposes, Aegislash is 60/140/140/140/140/60

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:49:37 No.43064179 Report

Quoted By: >>43064187

>>43064108
My bad. I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you just didn’t play the game. Now I know you’re just flat out retarded for thinking Rhyperior isn’t good right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:52:06 No.43064187 Report

Quoted By: >>43064200

>>43064179
"Right now", in gen VIII's utterly gimped meta with 60% of the dex and two huge mechanics missing? Three if you count smogon banning dynamax?

If it had real competition it'd be back down in RU or worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:53:29 No.43064200 Report

Quoted By: >>43064216

>>43064187
It’s still good, so I don’t know what you’re trying to say

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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:54:25 No.43064205 Report

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>leave them to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 03:56:08 No.43064216 Report

Quoted By: >>43064230

>>43064200
It's a big fish in a small pond. Except it's not really that big of a fish.

Compared to many other Pokemon that already exist, that are only excluded because of GF's incompetence, it's not good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 04:00:52 No.43064230 Report

Quoted By: >>43064244

>>43064216
Still a big pond. And it’s still good anyway so I don’t see your point

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 04:03:32 No.43064244 Report

Quoted By: >>43064285

>>43064230
It's a pond smaller than the one it came from. It wasn't even particularly good then. My point is in the grand scheme of things, as in among ALL existing Pokemon, it's not good.

But you understood that already, you're just being obtuse on purpose.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 04:05:12 No.43064250 Report

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>>43064012
>Smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 04:13:10 No.43064285 Report

Quoted By: >>43064313

>>43064244
Still a big pond, so I don’t see your point.
>My point is in the grand scheme of things, as in among ALL existing Pokemon, it's not good
Of it is when you’re counting ALL Pokémon like legendaries and megas.
How is it not good again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 04:13:36 No.43064288 Report

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>>43063248
ASPERGERS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 04:19:43 No.43064313 Report

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>>43064285
400 hasn't been "big" for several gens now. Gonna have to refer you back to the the obvious fact we have very different definitions of "good".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 04:24:41 No.43064343 Report

Quoted By: >>43064371

>>43063446
That does not exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 04:25:18 No.43064346 Report

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>>43064313
That’s a little under half, which is pretty big

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 04:29:17 No.43064371 Report

Quoted By: >>43065652

>>43064343
It's Dewgong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 12:55:28 No.43065652 Report

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>>43064371
Dewgong is not mono ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 13:15:58 No.43065756 Report

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>>43064108
It has great potential with AV and its 4 attacks, 2 of it's stab have 100bp + the megahorn to check dark and psychic which probably won't see it coming, and ofc an ice or fire move for coverage.
More so in gen8 where it has less competition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 13:18:49 No.43065767 Report

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>>43063287
Rhyperior would sweep your entire fucking team

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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 13:26:15 No.43065803 Report

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>>43065767
>dravoish uses vicious rend!

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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 13:34:12 No.43065845 Report

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Hello, I am meta.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 14:12:51 No.43066100 Report

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>>43063239

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 14:19:49 No.43066153 Report

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>>43063239
You know, i'm actually kinda shocked we didn't get one of these as an Ultra Beast
>inb4 guzzlord
Unfortunate typing, it takes neutral damage reasonably well

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Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 14:29:42 No.43066204 Report

Quoted By: >>43066235

>useless everywhere
>probably only created to check if big numbers broke the program or something
>can deal almost 10 billion damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 14:32:40 No.43066228 Report

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>>43066100
fucking Flareon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Mar 2020 14:33:48 No.43066235 Report

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>>43066204
but Shuckle isn't useless

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