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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2020 22:09:17 No.43107203 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>43107506 >>43107510 >>43108015 >>43108205 >>43112990 >>43113105 >>43113119

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEOXYS SAVE ME THE CUBES ARE EVERYWHERE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2020 22:42:28 No.43107506 Report

Quoted By: >>43110864 >>43112446

>>43107203

Nah, you're on your own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2020 22:43:09 No.43107510 Report

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>>43107203
>FUGs externally

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2020 23:46:23 No.43108015 Report

Quoted By: >>43110608

>>43107203
Destiny Deoxys made Rayquaza such a fucking jobber, it was pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2020 23:48:33 No.43108026 Report

Quoted By: >>43108067 >>43108117 >>43108168 >>43113195

whats worse, Rayquaza getting fucked over by blocks or Arceus getting fucked over by liquid Mercury

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2020 23:54:03 No.43108067 Report

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>>43108026
Arceus was BTFO by metal liquid and a meteor.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 00:01:56 No.43108117 Report

Quoted By: >>43108273 >>43112665

>>43108026

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 00:07:41 No.43108168 Report

Quoted By: >>43111984 >>43112392

>>43108026
Jesus got fucked over by nails ffs.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 00:12:34 No.43108205 Report

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>>43107203
>Fug getting hopelessly dogpiled
My fetish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 00:21:14 No.43108273 Report

Quoted By: >>43108424

>>43108117
What was this from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 00:39:13 No.43108424 Report

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>>43108273
It's from the prologue of Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 00:41:16 No.43108442 Report

Quoted By: >>43108463 >>43108494

Anime gets so boring with Human's technology basically always screwing all legendaries no matter what

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 00:43:20 No.43108463 Report

Quoted By: >>43109636 >>43110362 >>43111986 >>43119662

>>43108442
This. Aren't legendaries supposed to be something similar to gods. but apparently all you have to do is tie their hands together with a charging cord or a go pro and they are helpless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 00:46:10 No.43108494 Report

Quoted By: >>43109636 >>43110693 >>43111537

>>43108442
I always hated this about the anime, and the series in general. Being able to trap the God of time, and space in a Pokeball is pretty jarring. It makes them feel much weaker than they truly are, in legend.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 03:09:39 No.43109636 Report

Quoted By: >>43110068 >>43110313 >>43111621 >>43111674 >>43111991 >>43116104

>>43108463
>>43108494
They're not gods.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 04:26:09 No.43110068 Report

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>>43109636
HELLO HUMAN...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 05:04:18 No.43110310 Report

Quoted By: >>43110339

The first three Pokémon movies are THE BEST ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 05:05:14 No.43110313 Report

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>>43109636
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 05:09:22 No.43110339 Report

Quoted By: >>43110563 >>43112402 >>43119537

>>43110310
There was not a single bad Pokémon movie until the middle-end of gen 4 when the cgi became much more questionable

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 05:15:27 No.43110362 Report

Quoted By: >>43110583

>>43108463
Legendaries are just exceptionally unique and powerful pokemon, nothing more

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 05:59:24 No.43110563 Report

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>>43110339
Questionable CGI was there since the third Japanese home release of Mewtwo Strikes Back (which is the version we got). The theatrical version, first VHS, and first LaserDisc versions were apparently all 2D animation, but they changed a lot of stuff like the giant doors to CGI in all subsequent releases and that's what we got.

I don't know why the Pokémon movies like their big CGI props, but it always looks awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 06:03:05 No.43110583 Report

Quoted By: >>43110594

>>43110362
Certain legendaries are actual gods like Arceus, Necrozma, and Ho-Oh.

Most other legendaries are simply god-like entities or very rare and powerful Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 06:05:43 No.43110594 Report

Quoted By: >>43110620

>>43110583
when ur god is weak enough to be tamed by a 10 year old

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 06:08:54 No.43110608 Report

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>>43108015
Anime wise Deoxys is just stronger. The form change is just too strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 06:11:54 No.43110620 Report

Quoted By: >>43110630 >>43110631 >>43112708

>>43110594
Think of them as japanese gods or yo-kais, some of them are really powerful, while many others are walking jokes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 06:13:35 No.43110630 Report

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>>43110620
Damn I wrote yokai like that again. Fuck YW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 06:13:38 No.43110631 Report

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>>43110620
Jap mythology is autistic as shit jesus christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 06:16:02 No.43110643 Report

Quoted By: >>43110725 >>43116144

Anyone else still surprised at how popular Rayquaza actually is? I knew /vp/ liked him because of the meme, but him being the most popular legendary is shocking.
Thought that would be Mewtwo or Lugia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 06:26:47 No.43110693 Report

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>>43108494
In DPPt they actually choose to follow you. Same with gen 5. That doesn’t explain 3 though where Kyogre and Groudon are basically gigantic jackasses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 06:31:03 No.43110725 Report

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>>43110643
dragons have universal appeal and he's undeniably the best looking legendary dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 06:53:24 No.43110864 Report

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>>43107506
>FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUG

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 09:11:07 No.43111537 Report

Quoted By: >>43112442

>>43108494
The games explicitely refute this so many times, can nobody on this board read?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 09:36:25 No.43111621 Report

Quoted By: >>43111674

>>43109636
A deity, even if it's trapped in a pokeball, is still a deity.
A lot of legendaries being gods makes sense if you use the heretic japanese autistic religion definition of god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 09:51:15 No.43111674 Report

Quoted By: >>43115869

>>43111621
>>43109636
They're basically kinda like kamuy of Ainu legends rather than monotheistic creator gods or even ones from mythologies with pantheons. Just because they represent a concept doesn't make them omnipotent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 11:44:42 No.43111984 Report

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>>43108168
Pokemon is deep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 11:46:07 No.43111986 Report

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>>43108463
Eh, the Sinnoh box trio and Arceus are probably godlike, but not really the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 11:47:38 No.43111991 Report

Quoted By: >>43113244

>>43109636
Didn't he lose immediately after saying that? And then run off to get his own deity Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 13:39:44 No.43112392 Report

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>>43108168
That was all part of the keikaku

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 13:42:12 No.43112402 Report

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>>43110339
4 sucks dog doodoo
The best ones are 3, 5,6,7

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 13:51:55 No.43112442 Report

Quoted By: >>43112635

>>43111537
>the games explicitely refute this so many times
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 13:53:05 No.43112446 Report

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>>43107506
I always wanted green Deoxys in the games as a kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 14:31:20 No.43112635 Report

Quoted By: >>43113066 >>43113095 >>43113212 >>43115851

>>43112442
>Cyrus states pokeballs can't capture the true power of a legendary so he needs the red chain
>Rowan/Cynthia or whoever points out that the legendaries allow you to capture them for saving the world or your purity of heart or whatever protagonist bullshit
>Literally see Arceus creating more 'gods' proving they aren't one of a kind at all
>People on /vp/: hurrr how can I catch god in le pokeball hahaahah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 14:38:10 No.43112665 Report

Quoted By: >>43112910

>>43108117
oh shit it's those two fuckers from the Raikou special, how did I never notice them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 14:47:23 No.43112708 Report

Quoted By: >>43119669

>>43110620
Eh, afteral the only real difference between a yokai and a god is worship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 15:11:24 No.43112836 Report

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>>43110608
It was both. Deoxys could just pull the most convenient form out of nowhere and Rayquaza was a retarded, lethargic punching bag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 15:24:14 No.43112910 Report

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>>43112665
They seem to be really good at their jobs if they captured Rayquaza.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 15:38:19 No.43112990 Report

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>>43107203

Holy crap Deoxys! I thought you were in Hoenn fighting in the Cube Wars!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 15:50:13 No.43113066 Report

Quoted By: >>43113284

>>43112635
This ultimately doesn't change the fact that we have Pokemon that can flood the Earth, jump through time, or suck the light out of dimensions with ease, but they can still be contained by simple devices of man. Whether you consider them gods or not, this is still redundancy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 15:54:13 No.43113095 Report

Quoted By: >>43113284

>>43112635
>Cyrus states pokeballs can't capture the true power of a legendary so he needs the red chain
>Rowan/Cynthia or whoever points out that the legendaries allow you to capture them for saving the world or your purity of heart or whatever protagonist bullshit
You speak as if Pokemon even follows it's own lore anymore. They throw rules out, and use them again whenever it's convenient.
>Arceus creating more gods
You have a point here, but even then they have the power to bend entire dimensions, space, or even time. Whether you consider them gods or not, being able to contain beings with powers like this, is stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 15:56:05 No.43113105 Report

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>>43107203
Power scaling is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but how powerful do people consider Fug to be? Being able to effectively tame beings that command the land, and the sea is a pretty big feat. On top of that, it can destroy, and consume meteors that can effectively bomb, and wipe out entire planets.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 15:58:09 No.43113119 Report

Quoted By: >>43113147 >>43113707 >>43113775 >>43122847

>>43107203
Why is Rayquaza so territorial? Deoxys didn't even do anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 16:02:48 No.43113147 Report

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>>43113119
The rock almost hit him and he got mad or some shit. He just wanted Deoxys off his property.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 16:10:34 No.43113195 Report

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>>43108026
Necrozma being knocked down by a meteor, but well, never mind, anime is not a canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 16:12:49 No.43113212 Report

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>>43112635
>Literally see Arceus creating more 'gods' proving they aren't one of a kind at all
An obvious special case, nothing would be unique if God himself decided to create another copy.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 16:16:57 No.43113244 Report

Quoted By: >>43113630

>>43111991
Yes, it's obvious that everything he says is an obvious delusion of grandeur, and when he loses he literally goes crazy and starts talking nonsense.

>"What?! I created Team Plasma with my own hands. I'm absolutely perfect! I AM PERFECTION! I am the perfect ruler of a perfect new world!"
>"Mwa ha ha! Since I couldn't become the hero and obtain the legendary Pokémon myself... I prepared someone for that purpose--N! He's nothing more than a freak without a human heart. Do you think you're going to get through to a warped person like that?!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 16:20:18 No.43113284 Report

Quoted By: >>43119534 >>43119551

>>43113066
>>43113095
I'm not arguing that they're not powerful or even that they're not 'Gods'. I'm arguing that the version you catch isn't THE God of Time/Space/Everything. It's just a fragment of their power they lend to you as a reward for being the super special one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 17:09:22 No.43113630 Report

Quoted By: >>43113690

>>43113244
Speaking of nonsense, the whole "hero of ideals" and "hero of truth" deal is also a load of bullshit. The very same premises, statements and actions in the very same context will be considered either a ball of ideals or the hard truth depending on which plastic box a kid decided to grab at the game store.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 17:21:01 No.43113690 Report

Quoted By: >>43113915

>>43113630
That's the whole point of BW's plot, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 17:25:12 No.43113707 Report

Quoted By: >>43116284

>>43113119
>Exist to keep shit out of the 'neutral' zone aka the ozone layer
>Some nigger tries and hops the boarder
>REEEEE FUCK OUT OF MY DOMAIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 17:34:46 No.43113775 Report

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>>43113119
Hoenn is the equivalent of Madagascar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 17:56:38 No.43113915 Report

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>>43113690
So basically reshiram has different ideals to zekrom but is in denial and claims that they aren't ideals but the truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 21:52:18 No.43115851 Report

Quoted By: >>43116027 >>43119534 >>43119551

>>43112635
Except creating a new god makes no sense. For example, if Arceus created a new Dialga, then the old Dialga would HAVE to disappear. You can't have two separate entities controlling the fabric of time, there would be conflict. Unless those two separate entities aren't separate at all, and instead the same being being portrayed in two separate bodies. Meaning that there is indeed only one Dialga but can be multiple depictions if it. This is the same for the rest of the creation trio, although I think Giratina is truly alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 21:54:00 No.43115869 Report

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>>43111674
I like this a lot. Makes a lot of sense. Especially when you consider words like "okami", meaning wolf, but it also looks like it would translate to "great god"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:12:53 No.43116027 Report

Quoted By: >>43116102

>>43115851
>For example, if Arceus created a new Dialga, then the old Dialga would HAVE to disappear. You can't have two separate entities controlling the fabric of time, there would be conflict.
Why?
And what if it did? It is not a paradox.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:19:04 No.43116082 Report

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NOOOOOO NOT THE CUBES
AHHHHHHH AGHHHHHHHHHHHHH AGHHHHH THEY'RE IN MY EYESSSSSSSSS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:21:40 No.43116102 Report

Quoted By: >>43116115 >>43116147

>>43116027
Because you cannot have two different things representing all of time. That makes no sense. They would have completely different ways to how to govern time, thus leading to conflict.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:22:04 No.43116104 Report

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>>43109636
>loses to a trainer using a legendary pokemon
>gets his own legendary pokemon and needs another legendary pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:23:02 No.43116115 Report

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>>43116102
avatars

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:26:55 No.43116144 Report

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>>43110643
It's because Rayquaza looks cool as shit, of course it's popular

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:27:18 No.43116147 Report

Quoted By: >>43116184

>>43116102
Sure you can. Several religions/mythologies have just that.
Besides, "govern" for something so abstract is in itself pretty abstract, it isn't like dialga is constantly giving conscious orders. "Alright, now you advance a second. Now, another second. Oh, and now advance a second"
The world has also seen many MANY instances of two presidents, or two kings, governing over one country. It usually means war, and sometimes it doesn't, but it can and does happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:31:48 No.43116184 Report

Quoted By: >>43116240

>>43116147
No, because time is universal. It is not the same as governing land. Governing time means you must be on the exact same page forever. If you aren't, then that would lead to complete destruction of the universe. Dialga has been said to represent all fo time, meaning there is only one Dialga, but may be multiple forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:38:42 No.43116240 Report

Quoted By: >>43116273 >>43116285

>>43116184
Says you.
By the way, the Greek had like three or four rulers of the ocean (well, one of them was THE ocean) and as far as they knew, there was only one ocean. Yet the sea remained and the land was kept dry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:41:33 No.43116273 Report

Quoted By: >>43116285 >>43116295

>>43116240
The ocean is not universal. You can have disagreements about water, you cannot have disagreements about time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:42:31 No.43116284 Report

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>>43113707
This, rayquaza did nothing wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:42:46 No.43116285 Report

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>>43116240
>>43116273
Which is also why it only makes sense for the Creation Trio and Arceus to be the only unique Pokemon, since Pokemon like the Weather Trio can operate with more than one member.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 22:43:19 No.43116295 Report

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>>43116273
Jesus fuck, we have going at this for hours. Of course you can!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2020 04:17:48 No.43118413 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2020 11:46:26 No.43119534 Report

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>>43115851
I said as much here >>43113284
The Dialga you catch isn't THE singular Dialga, it's just a fragment of the Time God's power in a physical form. There could be countless Dialga's floating through the timestream, or just one being without a physical form until it creates one. Tons of religions have this idea of Godly 'aspects' that are both part of the God and separate at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2020 11:47:29 No.43119537 Report

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>>43110339
Everything after Heroes is terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2020 11:52:41 No.43119551 Report

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>>43115851 #
I said as much here >>43113284 #
The Dialga you catch isn't THE singular Dialga, it's just a fragment of the Time God's power in a physical form. There could be countless Dialga's floating through the timestream, or just one being without a physical form until it creates one. Tons of religions have this idea of Godly 'aspects' that are both part of the God and separate at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2020 12:29:58 No.43119662 Report

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>>43108463
They're simply powerful Pokemon with lots of superstition surrounding them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2020 12:31:21 No.43119669 Report

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>>43112708
Nah, there's a distinct difference. Youkai are better compared to fair folk in Western mythology while their lesser gods are more like dwarves and giants

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2020 16:11:43 No.43120594 Report

Quoted By: >>43120658

I love how the anime casually makes Deoxys broken when he's a B-Tier legendary in the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2020 16:24:12 No.43120658 Report

Quoted By: >>43121415

>>43120594
Well it's entire gimmick is switching forms to suit different situations, but the games only allow you to switch forms out of battle. Makes sense that from an in-universe perspective Deoxys would be way better than it's turn-based counterpart

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2020 18:32:12 No.43121415 Report

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>>43120658
Imagine being able to switch him form every turn at the start of your turn

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Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2020 21:57:48 No.43122847 Report

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>>43113119
Rayquaza is a retarded beast. He literally got the IQ of a chicken.

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