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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:42:15 No.43144470 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>43144493 >>43144559 >>43144612 >>43144665 >>43144666 >>43144687 >>43144757 >>43144767 >>43144775 >>43144815 >>43144940 >>43144965 >>43146510 >>43146910 >>43146988 >>43146997 >>43150261

REPEAT AFTER ME:

LEGENDARIES SHOULD NOT EVOVLE
>LEGENDARIES SHOULD NOT EVOVLE
LEGENDARIES SHOULD NOT EVOVLE
>LEGENDARIES SHOULD NOT EVOVLE
LEGENDARIES SHOULD NOT EVOVLE
>LEGENDARIES SHOULD NOT EVOVLE

Gen 7 forever ruined the franchise with Cosmog

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:43:47 No.43144483 Report

Quoted By: >>43144495 >>43144501 >>43144546 >>43144613 >>43144980

The entire point is that Cosmog comes from an alternate dimensions where the rules of its universe function differently from the one you play in

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:44:43 No.43144493 Report

Quoted By: >>43144507

>>43144470
Nebby fit the game's Narrative just fine. Makingup arbitrary rules for pokemon is autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:44:50 No.43144495 Report

Quoted By: >>43144668 >>43147328

>>43144483
and that makes this bullshit okay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:45:18 No.43144501 Report

Quoted By: >>43144518

>>43144483
What about Kabfu then? Cosmog started a slippery slop and now the franchise continues to freefall

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:46:09 No.43144507 Report

Quoted By: >>43144529 >>43144530 >>43144599

>>43144493
> a rule that has stood strong for almost twenty years is apparently "made up"& "arbitrary" now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:46:57 No.43144516 Report

Quoted By: >>43144534 >>43144546 >>43144687 >>43145464

Mythicals couldn’t breed, nor have BST below 600. Then Manaphy and Phione showed up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:47:11 No.43144518 Report

Quoted By: >>43144534

>>43144501
I don't know of any pokemon named kabfu. could you perhaps be referring to a shill fanfic generation of pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:48:48 No.43144529 Report

Quoted By: >>43144590

>>43144507
This is bait right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:48:52 No.43144530 Report

Quoted By: >>43144597

>>43144507
It was never a rule, they just never made a legendary that needed to evolve. Players assumed there were only one of each legendary pokemon but the anime and movies ruined that idea long before Cosmog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:49:26 No.43144534 Report

Quoted By: >>43144565 >>43144617 >>43144627

>>43144516
That was different and unique.
>>43144518
You know what the fuck I mean but now you’re deflecting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:50:19 No.43144546 Report

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>>43144483
>>43144516
/thread

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:51:07 No.43144553 Report

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LEGENDARIES EVOLVING IS BAD BUT LEGENDARIES BEING ABLE TO BREED IS OK!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:51:39 No.43144559 Report

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>>43144470
>EVOVLE
>He copypasted it 6 fucking times and still didnt realize it
Based retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:52:10 No.43144565 Report

Quoted By: >>43144611

>>43144534
>That was different and unique
It’s the same shit, Sinnohfetus. Just because you started there doesn’t make it any different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:53:17 No.43144577 Report

Quoted By: >>43144606

Tell me why they shouldn't be able to evolve. Give me one good reason. Just one.

"Because that's how it's always been" isn't a reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:54:40 No.43144590 Report

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>>43144529
no????

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:55:41 No.43144597 Report

Quoted By: >>43144615 >>43144901

>>43144530
> actually believing the ashnime

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:55:56 No.43144599 Report

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>>43144507
That was NEVER an official rule. That's a fan rule created by autists who don't like change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:56:14 No.43144606 Report

Quoted By: >>43144680 >>43144684

>>43144577
Because it’s true. Those were the rules established by the game’s lore. Manaphy breeding is different because she is a mythical which is different from a legendary evolving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:56:42 No.43144611 Report

Quoted By: >>43144687

>>43144565
> when it breeds, it hatches into a completely different species that is unable to evolve into the parent species.
> this isn't different at all, according to pinhead dipshit logic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:56:50 No.43144612 Report

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>>43144470
even worse,cosmoem evolves into solgaleo and lunala anytime in future games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:56:52 No.43144613 Report

Quoted By: >>43144647 >>43144844 >>43146438

>>43144483
>Type Null and Urshifu are from another dimension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:56:58 No.43144615 Report

Quoted By: >>43144660

>>43144597
The games themselves did it too. The Eon duo's dex entries mention how they travel in herds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:57:13 No.43144617 Report

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>>43144534
>That was different and unique
what the fuck

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:57:57 No.43144627 Report

Quoted By: >>43144684 >>43144702

>>43144534
>D-Doesn't counts becuase I said so!
The state of Sinnoh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:59:00 No.43144634 Report

Quoted By: >>43144656 >>43144941

legendaries shouldn't be able to evolve because not only can they not breed, but they are also immortal deities, guardians and balancers of the natural forces. in essence, they should exist, will exist, and always have existed like that for all of time as we know it, according to the lore.
like actually imagine arceus evolving or breeding, that would be fucking stupid.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 17:59:37 No.43144641 Report

Quoted By:

kino line
screw OP and screw ugly gen 8 bear

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:00:03 No.43144647 Report

Quoted By: >>43144799

>>43144613
> Implying silvally is a legendary
> not realizing that silvally is from gen 7, the same generation that OP is bashing for breaking the rules
> actually believing in the horseshit of gen8
hmmm.......

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:01:06 No.43144656 Report

Quoted By: >>43144670

>>43144634
>not only can they not breed
A number of them can. We as the players simply can't breed them for game balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:01:24 No.43144660 Report

Quoted By: >>43144681

>>43144615
prove it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:01:42 No.43144663 Report

Quoted By: >>43144682

>Legendaries can't breed
>Manaphy appears
>Legendaries can't evolve
>Cosmog and Type Null appears
>Legendaries are always on the end of the dex
>Victini appears.
>Pokémon can't fuse with others
>Kyurem appears.
>Pokémon can't get past a third form
>Mega Evolution appears.
What's next for GF? A mon with 5 attacks? A trainer with 8 pokémon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:02:07 No.43144665 Report

Quoted By: >>43144859

>>43144470
Legendary is a dumb hollow title with zero meaning since day one when some shmuck in a lab could make one.
Good fucking riddance, legendaryfags crying over dumb shit like this deserve it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:02:10 No.43144666 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144470
>Solgaleo and Lunala canonically mate/have the ability to
>No rare chance for you to get a cosmog egg from the day care

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:02:24 No.43144668 Report

Quoted By: >>43144686

>>43144495
Yes

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:02:28 No.43144670 Report

Quoted By: >>43144692 >>43144695

>>43144656
> they can breed, even though it has been proven that they can't!
> proof? what's that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:03:41 No.43144680 Report

Quoted By: >>43144697

>>43144606
>rules established by the game’s lore
Show me in the game's lore where it says "no legendary pokemon can ever evolve or come from evolution" because I'm pretty sure the only pokemon that are legendary and absolutely unique are box legends from gen 2-6. Several other legendary pokemon have flavor text that implies multiples can exist

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:03:54 No.43144681 Report

Quoted By: >>43144695 >>43144755 >>43150105

>>43144660
Take a gander at Emerald's

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:03:56 No.43144682 Report

Quoted By: >>43148373

>>43144663
> mons can't have 5-8 attacks!
Z-moves
> trainers can't have more than 6 pokemon!
Dennis

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:04:11 No.43144684 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144627
>>43144606
Please read my reply before shitposting dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:04:57 No.43144686 Report

Quoted By: >>43144703 >>43144713

>>43144668
> breaking a 19-year-old rule is okay because yes!
the absolute state of zoomers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:05:16 No.43144687 Report

Quoted By: >>43144728

>>43144611
How does that contradict what was said in >>43144516 in response to >>43144470

If anything it just reinforces it.

Dumb Sinnohfetus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:05:55 No.43144692 Report

Quoted By: >>43144736

>>43144670
The cosmog event in SM. The only reason why they don't let you is to trick you into getting another version, same reason you can't get Lunala/Solgaleo in the opposite version

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:06:13 No.43144695 Report

Quoted By: >>43144735 >>43144755 >>43144763 >>43146412

>>43144670
>>43144681
How are Lati@s traveling in herds if they can't fucking breed? A lot of legendaries are just rare species, and can breed (in lore). As I already said, we just can't breed them because the game would be imbalanced if we could.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:06:18 No.43144697 Report

Quoted By: >>43144705

>>43144680
Professor Rowan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:07:21 No.43144702 Report

Quoted By: >>43144746 >>43146054

>>43144627
manaphy and phione are different because not only are they mythical, but breeding manaphy results in an entirely different species of pokemon with different stats and moves, and is incapable of evolving into the parent form.
essentially, phione is an accident from when man tried to breed a legendary's powers, and failed horribly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:07:25 No.43144703 Report

Quoted By: >>43144750

>>43144686
What makes you think it was a rule in the first place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:07:43 No.43144705 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144697
Post proof nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:08:29 No.43144713 Report

Quoted By: >>43144790

>>43144686
>I-It's only ok when Gen 4 breaks the rules!
Zoomers larping as oldfags are pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:09:50 No.43144728 Report

Quoted By: >>43144789 >>43144839 >>43144912

>>43144687
not only does it have no correlation to the OP, but it reinforces that phione is a completely different pokemon from manaphy. the point of phione is to make an example as to WHY mythicals shouldn't breed: because forcing them to breed would result in an inferior copy. their immortality means that their bodies aren't built to breed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:10:37 No.43144735 Report

Quoted By: >>43144743 >>43144804

>>43144695
Breeding is just a game mechanic, Latias and Latios are obviously able to breed in the wild, as are many other pokemon that can't be bred by players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:10:52 No.43144736 Report

Quoted By: >>43144760 >>43144875

>>43144692
> cosmog
> gen7
> the gen that ruined the lore, broke the rules, and killed the franchise
nice proof, zoomer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:11:19 No.43144743 Report

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>>43144735
That's what I just fucking said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:11:23 No.43144744 Report

Quoted By:

Why is breaking tradition wrong? "We've always done it this way" is the same argument that kept HMs in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:11:33 No.43144746 Report

Quoted By: >>43144755

>>43144702
This.
Legendaries should not breed or evolve. Gen 7 ruined the franchise more than Gen 6. It fucking feels like the guys behind 7 knew nothing about Pokémon beforehand and wanted more Digimon.

Prove me wrong. Pro tip: you can’t.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:11:54 No.43144750 Report

Quoted By: >>43144766 >>43144769

>>43144703
professor rowan and the fact that it has stood as fact for a year short of two decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:12:21 No.43144755 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144746
>Prove me wrong. Pro tip: you can’t.
Already did
>>43144681
>>43144695

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:12:24 No.43144757 Report

Quoted By: >>43144774

>>43144470
please OP can enlighten us as to how a Legendary growing defeats its Legendary status?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:12:54 No.43144760 Report

Quoted By: >>43144821 >>43144848

>>43144736
>the gen that ruined the lore, broke the rules, and killed the franchise
Nice way to spell Gen 8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:13:11 No.43144763 Report

Quoted By: >>43144783 >>43144839

>>43144695
Latios and Latias are personifications of the split genders. they represent male and female. it would make sense for them to breed since that is PRECISELY a part of what they represent in their deity title.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:13:44 No.43144766 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144750
Continuously screaming "Professor Rowan" isn't proof if you can't show us dialogue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:13:54 No.43144767 Report

Quoted By: >>43144831

>>43144470
You're right. There being some disposable in-universe explanation for it doesn't make it acceptable. May as well just remove legendaries altogether if you're just going to make them normal pokemon with "lore" or a gimmick behind them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:14:03 No.43144769 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144750
Please post specifically where Professor Rowan states this. I'm going to play through platinum tonight just to see this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:14:34 No.43144774 Report

Quoted By: >>43144796 >>43144813 >>43144932

>>43144757
Because that makes it just a regular Pokémon in the end and not a deity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:14:40 No.43144775 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144470
The should not evovle, but is evolving okay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:15:04 No.43144783 Report

Quoted By: >>43144866

>>43144763
Keep your fanfic nonsense out of this. Where ingame does it say they represent genders? Newsflash, Heatran can also be either gender.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:16:15 No.43144789 Report

Quoted By: >>43144881 >>43144882

>>43144728
>their immortality means that their bodies aren't built to breed.
That’s some nice headcanon

If you want a more accurate “headcanon”, it’s because Sinnoh is canonically too warm for Manaphy to breed, because the IRL slug its based on only reaches full size at the North Pole and the Antarctic circle. This is even reinforced with Phione being a “warm sea” Pokemon and Manaphy being a “cold sea” Pokemon in the dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:16:18 No.43144790 Report

Quoted By: >>43144881 >>43144934

>>43144713
gen 4 broke the rules to give an example as to WHY it's a bad idea to break the rules:
> what's that? you wanted to breed a mythical? nice going douchedick, you made a deformed bastard child with worse stats and a worse movepool. this is why we don't play god.
but then later generations come around and just shout
> WHAT ARE RULES? LMFAOOOO! LET'S MAKE A BASTARD ARCEUS! I'M SURE HE WON'T BE MAD!
unlike you, I don't need to spam names and buzzwords to win an argument. I have all the facts and logic I need to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:16:41 No.43144796 Report

Quoted By: >>43144928 >>43144955

>>43144774
Legendary pokemon are deities now?
Mewtwo created in a lab makes it a deity?
Type: Null is a deity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:16:56 No.43144799 Report

Quoted By: >>43144955

>>43144647
But Silvally IS a legendary, dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:17:20 No.43144804 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144735
> can't be bred
what is an egg group?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:17:53 No.43144813 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144774
Legendary doesn't mean you're a deity. Solgaleo and Lunala are just Ultra Beasts who arrived in Alola in ancient times and became legendary by defeating the Tapu in battle. They're not gods but they became revered as such by defeating Alola's actual gods in battle.

Anonyme

Anonyme Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:18:01 No.43144815 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144470
>LEGENDARIES SHOULD NOT EVOVLE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:18:20 No.43144821 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144760
> gen 8 killed the franchise
you can't kill something that is already dead.
(you can beat its corpse though, and gen8 tends to do that hourly...)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:18:36 No.43144831 Report

Quoted By: >>43146062

>>43144767
>May as well just remove legendaries altogether if you're just going to make them normal pokemon with "lore" or a gimmick behind them.
Legendaries are literally Pokemon with more relevant storyline lore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:19:02 No.43144839 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144763
>personifications of the split genders
>>43144728
>their immortality

What is this autistic bullshit. What it is with retards who started with Sinnoh and their trying to claim all legendaries are “immortal embodiments” or whatever.

Newsflash, that’s only for shit like Dialga and Palkia, and you could still hatch them from an egg, which Cynthia even mentions in regards to the breeders never having seen the egg process before. Hell we even see the birds hatch from eggs in Pokemon Snap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:19:23 No.43144844 Report

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>>43144613
evolving to silvally just means breaking the mask off and being able to use RKS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:19:41 No.43144848 Report

Quoted By: >>43144922

>>43144760
Gen 7 made the key changes to pokemon's forumla that it translated to gen 8 being garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:20:23 No.43144859 Report

Quoted By: >>43146485

>>43144665
Mewtwo is only "Legendary" by association because it's a clone of Mew, a Mythical.

Same deal with Type: Null/Silvally and them being based on Arceus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:20:56 No.43144866 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144783
> heatran
nobody said shit about heatran. legendaries can have genders, dipshit.
lati@s is the pokemon that represents genders (thank goodness there are only two of them.) i will fish for my screenshots now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:21:40 No.43144875 Report

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>>43144736
Just because you don't like it doesn't change the fact that it's canon. In both the games and the anime, we saw a Solgaleo and a Lunala produce a Cosmog right before our eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:21:54 No.43144881 Report

Quoted By: >>43144947

>>43144790
No, gen 4 “broke the rules” because Manaphy and Phione are based on two types of clione, a species that’s stupid popular in Hokkaido and appears on merchandise and trinkets there. See >>43144789

There is no “god being” bullshit. It’s literally a case of different specimens growing differently in different environments, something that we’d see more of in Alola with the regional variants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:21:58 No.43144882 Report

Quoted By: >>43144891 >>43144912 >>43144959

>>43144789
> canon = headcanon
what did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:23:34 No.43144891 Report

Quoted By: >>43145822

>>43144882
“Immortal bodies aren’t meant to breed”

That’s peak autistic fan fiction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:24:35 No.43144901 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144597
>still pushing this meme when it's a well known fact that the anime studio and Game Freak work very closely with each other and communicate constantly to keep things consistent, and that Game Freak provides them with reference material to work with

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:25:35 No.43144912 Report

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>>43144882
Nothing said here >>43144728 is canon at all. The hell you on about zoomer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:26:25 No.43144922 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144848
No since ideas of stuff like cut pokemon from the game was made by Gen 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:26:41 No.43144928 Report

Quoted By: >>43144953 >>43144968

>>43144796
Mewtwo and Genesect were both created to be the strongest Pokémon so yes I would regard them as deities. Not Type: Null. It can evolve and is pretty much a regular Pokémon according to rules of lore.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:26:58 No.43144932 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144774

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:27:15 No.43144934 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144790
>unlike you, I don't need to spam names and buzzwords to win an argument. I have all the facts and logic I need to win.
damn and this whole time I thought you were being serious. you baited me, well done

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:27:38 No.43144940 Report

Quoted By: >>43144967 >>43146261

>>43144470
I still refuse to look at Cosmog's line as being Legendary. For the sake of gameplay, official tournaments, and other things of the like. Fine, understandable. Lorewise though, it just doesn't check out to me.
On that note, I don't really understand what makes Meltan and Kubfu "Mythical/Legendary". Melmetal and Urshifu, sure. But not their pre-evos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:27:44 No.43144941 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144634
Solgaleo and Lunala are explicitly NOT immortal deities, though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:28:02 No.43144947 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144881
So, in a way Phione is a regional form of Manaphy? That's actually pretty neat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:28:29 No.43144951 Report

Quoted By: >>43145020

lol cant believe everyone forgot the actual first legendary pokemon to evolve, zorua

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:28:34 No.43144953 Report

Quoted By: >>43144971

>>43144928
Type: Null does not evolve. Its helmet just comes off. Type: Null and Silvally are not separate Pokemon. The latter is its original form and Type: Null is just Silvally with a power-restraining helmet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:28:45 No.43144955 Report

Quoted By: >>43146503 >>43148196 >>43150371

>>43144796
mewtwo is legendary because not only is he the only one of his kind, but he is also the second strongest pokemon in the universe, second only to Lord Arceus. also,
>>43144796
>>43144799
Silvally is from gen 7, the same gen that OP is bashing for breaking the rules. also, silvally isn't a legendary, because in the Alola pokedex, its background is GREEN, representing a special-but-not-legendary pokemon. legendaries get the yellow background treatment.
WINRAR

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:29:05 No.43144959 Report

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>>43144882
There are real life legends of gods and deities breeding like rabbits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:30:01 No.43144965 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144470
First two are unusable, and Cosmog is adorable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:30:09 No.43144967 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144940
>Lorewise though, it just doesn't check out to me.

They're literally regarded in legends the same way other Legendary Pokemon are. Only difference is that they're not really gods, they're just Ultra Beasts who come to Alola in ancient times and became "legendary" by defeating Alola's real gods (the Tapu) in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:30:16 No.43144968 Report

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>>43144928
I think you're using the term deity a little too loosely. Arceus is a deity. Giratina is a deity. Hell even Rayquaza or Mew could be deities. Not some random powerful pokemon who contributes almost nothing to the driving forces of their universe

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:30:38 No.43144971 Report

Quoted By: >>43144981 >>43144983 >>43145101

>>43144953
It evolves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:31:18 No.43144976 Report

Quoted By: >>43144995 >>43145022

Why is /vp/ so against change and new concepts? Why does Pokemon creation have to be set to a certain formula?

I’m guessing autism. Autistist need repetition and rules to fallow

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:31:35 No.43144980 Report

Quoted By: >>43148396 >>43148423

>>43144483
>ALTERNATE TIMELINES BROOOOOO!
The most cringe thing they could have done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:31:41 No.43144981 Report

Quoted By: >>43145014

>>43144971
Only because Game Freak couldn't code a one-way form change any other way. Game mechanics-wise, it's coded as an evolution, but canonically, all that happens is the helmet comes off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:31:59 No.43144983 Report

Quoted By: >>43145014

>>43144971
That's how it's treated by the game, yes. But from a lore perspective that's not evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:33:02 No.43144995 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144976
>Why is /vp/ so against change and new concepts?
Because most of the people here are autistic and their brains can't handle it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:35:35 No.43145014 Report

Quoted By: >>43145026 >>43145101

>>43144981
>>43144983
It still evolves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:36:37 No.43145020 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144951
Zorua and Zoroark aren't legendaries or mythicals even though they were unable to be obtained outside of an event in Black and White.

By that logic, Ho-Oh and Lugia should be mythicals, since they were unavailable in the Gen 3 mainline games outside of events and were not required to complete the Pokédex in Gen 3 and D/P/Pt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:36:54 No.43145022 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144976
Doesn’t matter because Pokémon is dead anyway. It’s the new Digimon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:37:06 No.43145026 Report

Quoted By: >>43145058

>>43145014
When Pokemon evolve, they glow and morph into their new form.

That doesn't happen with Type: Null. It just breaks its power-restraining helmet off and reverts back to its original state.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:40:14 No.43145058 Report

Quoted By: >>43145091 >>43145101 >>43145126

>>43145026
Why does it have a no new name then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:44:08 No.43145091 Report

Quoted By:

>/vp/ is so autistic that it's complaining about how nu-pokemon is ruining their made-up headcanons
wwww

>>43145058
Because Gladion decided to stop calling it by the Aether Foundation scientist's name as a representation of their bond? It was called Type: Full before the project was scrapped, not like the name was set in stone to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:45:04 No.43145101 Report

Quoted By: >>43145133

>>43144971
>>43145014
>>43145058
lmfao you're so goddamn dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:47:30 No.43145122 Report

Quoted By:

Fuck you spastic, deal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:48:09 No.43145126 Report

Quoted By: >>43145214

>>43145058
"Silvally" is a nickname Gladion gave it.

In the anime, he even calls it Silvally while it still has the helmet on. The game just treats them as separate Pokemon because they didn't know how to code a one-way form change. Or maybe because from game perspective, a one-way form change and an evolution are the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:48:36 No.43145133 Report

Quoted By: >>43145246

>>43145101
>classed as Legendary in-game
>friendship evolution
>"D-doesnt c-count"
The cope of the hilariously horribly autistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:55:09 No.43145208 Report

Quoted By: >>43145246

When will they retcon Phione being the pre-evolution of Manaphy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:55:31 No.43145214 Report

Quoted By: >>43145256 >>43145260

>>43145126
ITS A FRIENDSHIP EVOLUTION WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AND ALSO THE ANIME IS NONCANON

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:58:54 No.43145246 Report

Quoted By: >>43145260 >>43145293

>>43145133
>>43145208
>Legendary
That title doesn't really mean though? Mewtwo is a legendary despite being a modern artificial pokemon spawned from a mythical, Genesect is a mythical despite being a just a modified fossilmon, Magearna is a mythical despite being a robot, Diancie is a mythical despite just being a mutant Carbink, Phione is a mythical despite just being retarded Manaphy babies, the Kanto birds are legendary despite not reallying having legends and just being rare birds, etc. Hell, Silvally is a literal abomination that only resembles Arceus.
>Friendship evolution
The Pokedex actually says both. While Moon says that it "evolved", every other Pokedex explicitly says that it just trusts it's trainer enough to break the helmet, which matches what the anime shows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 18:59:36 No.43145256 Report

Quoted By:

>>43145214
>literally follows reference material provided by Game Freak
>the studio that makes the anime works and communicates with Game Freak constantly during production

The games and anime are very closely connected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:00:02 No.43145260 Report

Quoted By:

>>43145246
Fuck me, meant to reply to >>43145214

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:04:21 No.43145293 Report

Quoted By: >>43145326 >>43145394 >>43148199

>>43145246
>breaks its helmet, unleashing its full power, changing its appearance and fully grows 1'1" taller
>"b-b-but th-tht's n-not ev-ev-evolution reeeeeee"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:07:04 No.43145326 Report

Quoted By: >>43145358

>>43145293
Its appearance doesn't change at all and it doesn't grow taller. The helmet was restraining its full power. The "increased" height is just from its crest fanning out. The only other change is its grey fur being restored to its natural white color.

Type: Null is just Silvally with a power-restraining helmet put on it, nothing more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:10:06 No.43145358 Report

Quoted By: >>43145525

>>43145326
Keep coping son.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:13:52 No.43145394 Report

Quoted By: >>43145441

>>43145293
>Breaks its helmet
Yes
>Releases its full power
That was specifically restrained by the helmet, yes
>Changes its appearance
It literally just takes off its helmet and it's coat becomes brighter.
>Grows a foot taller
Because the giant fucking crest it has that was cramped undee the helmet pops up like a cockatoo raising it's feathers.
>it's not evolution
If you even read what I wrote I said it's both you dumb fuck. It's clearly not the same as actual Pokemon evolution since it just removes a helmet instead of giving off evolutione energy like the others, but the dex still calls it an evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:19:04 No.43145441 Report

Quoted By: >>43145571

>>43145394
I didn't read it as it's the crying of an autistic mess, unable to cope with Game Freak doing whatever the fuck they like with their own canon. Cope alreaddy, you miserable quim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:21:18 No.43145457 Report

Quoted By:

based alola throwing boomers that belong in nursing homes into hyperventilating seethe episodes even three years after sun and moon

fuck all grandpas

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:22:03 No.43145464 Report

Quoted By: >>43145476

>>43144516
Manaphy and Phione are still unique, there is no other Pokémon that breeds the same way they do. Cosmog doesn't do anything unique with its evolution, it evolves the same way the majority of Pokémon evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:23:23 No.43145476 Report

Quoted By: >>43145491 >>43145522

>>43145464
Cosmoem is currently the only Pokémon that evolves based on the game version, isn't it? So it's a little unique.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:25:27 No.43145491 Report

Quoted By: >>43145719

>>43145476
Lycanroc is coming back in Sword/Shield's DLC. The evolutions will mostly likely still be version-based, with Midday in Sword and Midnight in Shield.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:28:51 No.43145522 Report

Quoted By: >>43145719

>>43145476
No, Rockruff does the same thing.
Also, even if they were unique, it's still NOT really unique, because there are already dozens of different evolution method. The method evolution doesn't change what the evolution does. In Manaphy and Phione's case, not only are there few unique breeding methods (A few require items for baby forms, then there's Ditto and Nidoqueen), the actual result is completely unique. It is not "How you breed Manaphy" that is unique, but the "Result of breeding Manaphy". In this case, the result of "Evolving Cosmoem" is the same as any other evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:29:02 No.43145525 Report

Quoted By: >>43145536

>>43145358
Keep arresting simp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:30:28 No.43145536 Report

Quoted By: >>43145689

>>43145525
>still crying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:35:09 No.43145571 Report

Quoted By:

>>43145441
>Literally agreeing with you that it's still an evolution
>COPE
Are you actually retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:46:35 No.43145689 Report

Quoted By:

>>43145536
>Why are you gay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:49:23 No.43145719 Report

Quoted By: >>43145781 >>43145831

>>43145491
>>43145522
Cosmoem is still the only Pokemon that evolves into one of two different Pokemon based on version. Lycanroc are two forms of the same Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:55:55 No.43145781 Report

Quoted By:

>>43145719
And that's still boring and uninteresting, unlike Manaphy's unique breeding mechanic. There are already dozens of different evolution methods. If Cosmoem was the first Pokémon to have a split evolution, then it would feel special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 19:59:36 No.43145822 Report

Quoted By: >>43145868

>>43144891
It's a know fact that animals who live longer reproduce way less than those who live shorter.
So what he said isn't totally wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:00:27 No.43145831 Report

Quoted By:

>>43145719
Applin functionally works the same way

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:04:39 No.43145868 Report

Quoted By: >>43145907

>>43145822
Not if he's calling them "deities" and "gods". In real life myths and legends a lot of gods were total horndogs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:08:52 No.43145907 Report

Quoted By:

>>43145868
That's because they can and want to, not because they need it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:31:06 No.43146054 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144702
I always thought of them as the same species of pokemon being bred on warm water vs cool and since each daycare is in warmer climates they are only able to hate the pheone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:32:27 No.43146062 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144831
That wasn't all they were until recently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:38:29 No.43146101 Report

Quoted By: >>43146230

I can't wait for OP's autism to explode when they make a 4 stage evolutionary line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:52:12 No.43146230 Report

Quoted By:

>>43146101
And I bet you will cum hard shill. Soon there will be five stages with branching paths, armored forms and more fusions. Fuck this shit man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:57:13 No.43146261 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144940
Meltan can't be obtained in game without an external event like nearly every Mythical.

Kubfu is a one-off Pokemon like most Legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 20:59:13 No.43146278 Report

Quoted By: >>43146310

Why does pokemon attract this many autists?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 21:01:51 No.43146310 Report

Quoted By:

>>43146278
pokémon is autism: the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 21:13:24 No.43146412 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144695
Unown can't breed either but there are hordes of them in-game.

Also, remember the egg group for Pokemon that can't breed isn't called "Can't Breed", it's called "Unknown" or, as of gen 8, "No eggs discovered." This implies that it's not that the Pokemon in it are physically incapable of breeding, just that they reproduce in some unknown way that isn't compatible with living in captivity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 21:16:30 No.43146438 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144613
null is man made and not a deity
gen 8 is a fucking trainwreck and lacks any of the conceptual forethought they put into gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 21:21:00 No.43146485 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144859
What about Genesect? It's artificial but isn't based on any other Legendary/Mythical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 21:23:02 No.43146503 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144955
Dickhead, Silvally is a legendary because of it's stats and rarity. Even the game code have it a legendary. It's legendary, no matter how you trying to argue about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 21:24:25 No.43146510 Report

Quoted By: >>43146799

>>43144470
Legendaries also shouldn't be able to breed, so fuck Manaphy too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:07:54 No.43146799 Report

Quoted By:

>>43146510
I agree. I should have added that to the OP. It just doesn’t feel right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:32:07 No.43146910 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144470
No.

Eat dick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:43:52 No.43146988 Report

Quoted By: >>43147384

>>43144470
Legendaries also shouldn't breed, but look at Phione, and despair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 22:45:57 No.43146997 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144470
It's a good thing that they don't evovle then, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:45:17 No.43147328 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144495
Get a grip retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Mar 2020 23:54:38 No.43147384 Report

Quoted By:

>>43146988
This too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 02:42:46 No.43148196 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144955
Silvally is literally called a legendary on official sites and the official channel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 02:43:51 No.43148199 Report

Quoted By: >>43148347

>>43145293
Hoopa grows 20 times bigger and that doesn’t count as an evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 03:11:21 No.43148347 Report

Quoted By:

>>43148199
Yeah because Hoopa can change back. Plus Unbound form is its true form. Confined is just Hoopa with most of power locked away.

It's the same deal with Type: Null/Silvally, except Silvally can't be changed back to Type: Null because the helmet broke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 03:16:46 No.43148373 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144682
>Z-moves
one time use that needs an item
>Dennis
technically didn't catch kyurem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 03:21:12 No.43148396 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144980
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 03:24:56 No.43148416 Report

Quoted By:

There's no reason that they shouldn't other than "they haven't before."

Get the fuck out boomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 03:26:30 No.43148423 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144980
Alternate dimensions are not alternate timelines

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 13:58:17 No.43150105 Report

Quoted By:

Autistic boomers conveniently not mentioning the one thing that shatters all their arguments.

>>43144681
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 14:43:19 No.43150261 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144470
>I DUN LIK IT SO ITS BAD

All threads like this should be purged as well as shitposters themselves who starts them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Mar 2020 15:07:17 No.43150371 Report

Quoted By:

>>43144955
>the second strongest pokemon in the universe, second only to Lord Arceus
>Lord Arceus
>WINRAR
kys

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