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ITT: We buff/nerf old abilities and make up new ones

Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 18:33:28 No.43159214 View View Reply Original Report

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Sniper
Buff: Now also applies a 1.2x accuracy buff to all moves
Levitate
Buff: Now also applies a resistance to Fighting

New Ability: Cold Shoulder
What it does: Freezing equivalent to Static/Flame Body. Chance to apply freeze status effect when Pokemon gets hit by a contact move

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 18:43:39 No.43159324 Report

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>>43159214
bump

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 19:15:42 No.43159616 Report

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>>43159214
bump

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 19:26:08 No.43159687 Report

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>>43159214
freezing isnt the same as paralyzing or burning, at least with those you can still use moves, but with freezing yorue literally stuck until someone uses a fire move, and thats not always going to be on someones team, so freeze is a busted mechanic honestly

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 19:28:29 No.43159706 Report

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>>43159687
It's a low chance of happening, so it isn't gonna be that busted

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 19:30:34 No.43159722 Report

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>>43159214
>Run Away
You can switch whenever you wants, it doesn't matter if they're trapped with Shadow Tag, Arena Trap, Wrap, Mean Look, etc.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 19:36:44 No.43159751 Report

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>>43159722
Why isn't this a thing in the first place?

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 19:48:47 No.43159830 Report

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>>43159751
Because Game Freak only cares about singleplayer

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 19:52:06 No.43159856 Report

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>>43159687
This isn't gen 1. Freeze doesn't last forever anymore.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 19:53:03 No.43159862 Report

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>>43159856
I ONLY KNOW POKEMON FROM POKEMON RED POKEMON FIRE RED AND POKEMON GO

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 20:55:25 No.43160254 Report

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>>43159214
bump

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 21:35:01 No.43160532 Report

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>>43159214
bump

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 21:59:40 No.43160715 Report

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>>43159214
>Water Compaction
functions as an absorbing ability, making water type moves do no damage but increase the pokemon's speed
>Triage
give it to more pokemon

also, add more type versions of aerilate/galvanize/pixilate/refrigerate.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 22:01:15 No.43160729 Report

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>>43160715
>give it to more pokemon
Not a buff to the ability

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 22:37:31 No.43161028 Report

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>anticipation
now makes the first SE/OHKO move used against it fail
>merciless
now causes crits when any status is applied
>forecast
give castform a rock-type form
>new ability: stun boost
increases damage for special attacks while paralyzed
>new ability: snooze
causes sleep on contact

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 23:43:30 No.43161457 Report

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>>43161028
>now makes the first SE/OHKO move used against it fail
Anticipation is already good, it doesn't need any buffs

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Anonymous Sun 29 Mar 2020 23:52:39 No.43161511 Report

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>Corrison
Now works like scrappy also, given to other poison types also
>Run away
Always escapea trapping moves/abilites
>Pick-up
Removes hazards
>Cutting edge
Boost slashing moves by 50%

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:01:54 No.43161560 Report

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>>43159687
Kill yourself nostalgia bandwagoning turd

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:15:12 No.43161649 Report

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I got a few new abilities. How do any of these sound?

>Power Fantasy:
Raises attack when under the effects of Trick Room or Wonder Room.

>Indecisive:
Attacks have an increased crit chance, but there’s an equal chance the Pokémon will do significantly less damage.

>Seige Monster:
Stab attacks do additional damage to rock and steel types.

>Rapid Exertion:
Damaging moves double in base power (to a maximum of 200), but the user has to recharge after each attack.

>Mutual Assured Destruction:
If the Pokémon with this ability faints within 3 turns after being sent out, the opponent Pokémon also faints.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:15:20 No.43161650 Report

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>Status Quo
A Pokemon keeps stat boosts or drops upon switching out and coming back later

Old shit:

>Truant
Only activates if the previously used move was used succesfully. Missing or getting Protect cucked won't trigger Truant in the next turn anymore.

>Pick Pocket
User gets speed increased by one stage when stealing

>Emergency Exit
Switches out AT THE END OF THE TURN, why was that so hard to make Game Freak

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:16:31 No.43161657 Report

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>>43159214
>Liquid Voice
Raises Sp.Atk each time a sound type move is used and changes the move to water type.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:24:01 No.43161707 Report

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>>43159706
Any chance to freeze that is above 10% is too high, not including multipliers from Serene Grace or Water/Fire Pledge. There is a reason they haven't introduced any means to induce the Frozen status that isn't above 10%, because freezing has the possibility to completely shut out any non-Ice type Pokemon with good/bad luck, which can't be said about the other three. The 30% chance from abilities like Static, Flame Body, and Poison Point would be overkill for the Frozen status.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:40:22 No.43161835 Report

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>>43161457
>anticipation
>already good
Name one Pokémon that benefits from using this ability over any of their other possible abilities.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:46:55 No.43161893 Report

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Amazing ideas so far, I really like this thread, don't let it die.
New:
>Hybernation
During hail this man automatically enters sleep until hail ends and during this period it gains 1/3 of it's health back each turn passively. After the mon wakes up it gets +1 to attack
>Vengeful
When an opposing pokemon knocks out a team member on your team, ally pokemon with this ability now do 1.3 times as much damage to that opposing pokemon. This effect remains regardless of any switching out and can't stack if the same pokemon knock out more than one team member.
>Heroic
Pokemon with this ability are immune to intimidate and pressure and when an opposing pokemon with either ability switches in this pokemon gains a +1 to attack and Sp.attack
>Spell tag (I'm aware this is an item too)
When contact is made with a pokemon with this ability that pokemon has a 30% chance to either become sleepy, lose 4pp on their last used move, or become confused (Same effects as yawn, spite, and supersonic respectively)
>Precision
When a move misses it instead just does half the damage it would usually do, with an equal chance for added effects. For status moves the amount of stages effected are halfed and rounded up, and if they don't have stages then they merely produce the same effect. One hit KO moves are unaffected by this ability
>Exotic poison
When a pokemon with this ability poisons another pokemon that poison deals double the usual damage and also halves a random stat while the pokemon is poisoned, however ever turn the affected mon has a 25% chance to randomly become cured

Old:
All contact triggered moves now can be triggered by EITHER mon using a contact move
Pokemon with flame body can't be frozen and pokemon with magma armor are now immune to all ice type moves in addition to being immune to being frozen

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:49:36 No.43161907 Report

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>>43159214
>Gale Wings
Gives priority to Flying-type moves when at or above half HP.
>Mega Launder
Now applies to the "Cannon" moves as well.
>Run Away
Now guarantees escape from trapping moves & abilities.
>Illusion
No longer broken by entry hazards or weather damage.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:51:56 No.43161929 Report

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>>43161707
The point of these abilities is to make you not wanna use contact moves on them, if you make a contact move on them anyway then it's your bad, you deserve to be hard punished for your willingness to just ignore threats

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:54:50 No.43161945 Report

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>>43161893
Good abilities

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:58:56 No.43161974 Report

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>>43161028
>Merciless
In Japanese, this ability is Hitodenashi (can be translated as Miscreant in English), which fits with the Japanese names of Mareanie (Hidoide, which is hidoi [cruel] and hitode [sea star]), and Toxapex (Dohidoide, which is Dohidoi [very cruel] and hitode [sea star]).

Hitode (sea star) is part of Hitodenashi, so it is almost like a pun of sorts, and the Ability only works due to the thematic connection with Hidoide and Dohidoide. In other words, Merciless isn't an ability that other Pokemon should have, since it is explicitly centered around Mareanie and Toxapex, who are Poison-type Pokemon.

As such, Merciless should not work under any other status condition. I think Merciless should also increase the Attack and Special Attack by the user by 1 stage every time a Pokemon gets poisoned on the field while it is also on the field. It is balanced around the fact that Mareanie and Toxapex would be the only Pokemon with this Ability.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 00:58:56 No.43161975 Report

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>White Smoke
Defog on entry, still immune to opponent's stat drops
>Rivalry
+1 Att and Sp. Att when sent out against opposite gender, -1 att and sp.att when sent out against same gender.
>Aroma Veil
Protects against all volatile status(taunt/torment/confuse/attract)
>Honey Gather
If holding Honey, functions like Gooey
>Suction Cups or Sticky Hold
On contact, neither Pokemon can switch out

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 01:02:57 No.43162010 Report

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>Clairvoyance
This Pokémon avoids all damaging moves on switch-in.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 02:10:48 No.43162339 Report

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>>43161974
didn't realize there was a pun with the ability. making it give stat boosts seems fair enough, though I don't think having it apply to other abilities would ruin it, even if Mareanie/Toxapex couldn't really capitalize on it in a one on one battle

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 02:42:57 No.43162454 Report

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>Illusion
Whenever pokemon with this ability is switching in it gets to chose which pokemon in owners party it wants to mask to. Damage from hazard or weather conditions is still taken normally, but to opposite player it is the damage is shown in same way the OG pokemon would take.
What I mean by last sentence. If a pokemon such as garchomp entered on stealth rock, they would take 6 percent damage. Pokemon with illusion would take 12 percent (Zoroark is only one that has it for now) but to enemy trainer it would look like it has taken 12 percent.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 03:00:33 No.43162529 Report

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>>43161974
Mareanie and Toxapex also inflict burn pretty often with Scald.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 07:22:19 No.43163627 Report

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bumping

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 07:26:45 No.43163644 Report

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How would Magician be made not useless?

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 07:39:45 No.43163683 Report

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>>43161975
you've got rivalry backwards

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 08:31:40 No.43163834 Report

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>Justified
Now provides an immunity to Dark type attacks.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 08:55:07 No.43163889 Report

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>Corrosion
Poison-Type attacks are super-effective on Steel-Type Pokemon

>Cursed Body
Ghost and Dark attacks have their power increased by 20%

>Cute Charm
Normal and Fairy attacks have their power increased by 20%

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 10:25:38 No.43164098 Report

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>Truant
Raises HP stat of all pokemon in your party by 1.5 + regular effect
>Illuminate
Ghost and Dark type moves damage is halved
>Keen Eye
Attack/Spe +1 when foes try to lower accuracy
>Pick Up
Removes hazards upon entry
>Vital Spirit
Prevents sleep, Sp. Atk +1 when tried to put to sleep
>Insomnia
Prevents sleep, Atk +1 when tried to put to sleep
>Surge Surfer
Any terrain
>Sticky Hold
When no item, contact moves do half damage
>Steelworker
Very similar to Steely spirit. So steel type moves now have increased priority.
>Slow start
+ 2 def +2 sp def
>Shell armor
Protects from first critical hit damage. Then, ''shell smash'' buff happens without negative debuffs. Now critical hits can happen
>Shed skin
Happens every turn
>Run away
Cannot be trapped. Moves that try to trap it raise speed +1.
>Pressure
Only moves that do damage can be used by both foes and allies
>Mimicry
Steel type doesn't change.
>Klutz
Nobody can use held items
>Honey Gather
The pokemon uses sticky honey to lower the speed upon contact. If no pokemon hits him, it uses honey to heal itself and its allies 1/8 of its health.
>Gluttony
Pokemon may consume other pokemon berries and benefit from their effect when attacking
>Early bird
The pokemon will attack first after it wakesup
>Damp
Halves fire type moves, but electric type moves do x2
>Big Pecks
Raises defense when pokemon try to lower it
>Compound Eyes
Lower accuracy moves get an 1.5 power boost

Most of the buffs are on top of the effect the ability already has. I hope I didn't make them OP.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 12:24:43 No.43164414 Report

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bump

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 17:05:48 No.43165766 Report

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>>43161707
Snore clone that freezes.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 17:06:35 No.43165773 Report

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>>43163834
Based

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 17:06:51 No.43165776 Report

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>>43161707
Yawn clone that freezes.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 17:12:41 No.43165811 Report

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>>43159214
For some abilities that seem redundant with Insomnia:

>Early Bird
User not only wakes up faster when put to sleep, but thaws faster when frozen

>Vital Spirit
Immune to sleep and flinching, but take 2x damage from Poison attacks as your fast metabolism spreads the poison faster.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 17:14:23 No.43165823 Report

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>>43164098
Vital Spirit and Insomnia should be swapped around

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 17:20:26 No.43165858 Report

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>Z-Max
You can use Z-Moves at any time, without counting against the 1/battle limit or requiring you to hold an item.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 17:34:29 No.43165967 Report

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>>43159214
First one is fair, but I think the second isn't necessary. Levitate is already a good enough ability.
Cold shoulder is retarded but I guess it could work on a total shitmon. There's a reason no move has a natural chance to freeze higher than 10% besides lol secret power.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 17:36:14 No.43165985 Report

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>>43161975
That white smoke buff is cool, might make torkoal actually consider another ability.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 18:06:29 No.43166206 Report

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got a buncha abilities that I made to piss smogonfags off with

>Luck of the Draw
Uses metronome at the end of every turn
>Slight of Hand
If an opponent is hit with a contact move, you swap items
>Short Fuse
Fire type contact/burn trigger the Pokémon with this ability to explode
>DNA shuffle
Any contact move that hits the opponent shuffles their base stats and stat boosts around
>Warrior’s Eye
Any missed attacks are countered and deal half the damage the missed attacks would have done
>Patient Zero
If this Pokémon is under the effects of poison or toxic, they transfer it to any Pokémon they make contact with in a turn (like yawn).

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 18:46:00 No.43166521 Report

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>>43161975
>White Smoke
Halves power of Dark type moves

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 19:08:34 No.43166723 Report

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>>43165967
>but I think the second isn't necessary. Levitate is already a good enough ability
It's just to give Pokemon like Flygon some extra use out of Levitate

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 19:12:07 No.43166752 Report

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>>43161649
Not a big fan of the names, pick something more concise.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Mar 2020 19:15:54 No.43166775 Report

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>>43166723
Why do you think Flygon does not get enough use from Levitate?

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