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Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 03:30:34 No.43207351 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>43207371 >>43207560 >>43207785 >>43208187 >>43209218 >>43210315 >>43210368 >>43212405

This franchise has not ruined the experience in other RPGs?
Now that I am an adult I have been trying all the rpg that people call "classics" (Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger, Radiant Historia ...)And of those I only enjoyed the DS version of Ni No Kuni which is like Pokemon

>I'm supposed to take all the generic stories from these games seriously, the stories in Pokemon were generic but you weren't supposed to care too much

>Why am I being charged for healing?

>Why can't I save the game in the dungeons?

>I really have to waste so much time farming exp?

>Why are these monsters so horrible and poorly designed? They make Garbodor look beautiful.

>Do I have to put up with all these members of my party all the time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 03:34:58 No.43207371 Report

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>>43207351
You're comparing entirely different games, sure they're the same genre and they have similar mechanics, but ultimately a lot of them play differently, have different aesthetics, different thematics, etc. It's not something you can inherently compare. A better comparison would be similar games, Temtem, Digimon, etc. Even then the Digimon games do fundamentally play differently as well. It'd be like comparing the original Doom and Call of Duty, sure they're both FPS, but they have incredibly different mechanics, aesthetics, and so on.

With that said, you should never inherently need to buy healing items (and if you do its never an issue of money really), nor should you ever really have to farm exp unless you're trying to go for literally everything in the game and/or a trophy/achievement, and even then its usually not that bad, Pokemon is very similar
mechanic'd in that way in the time it takes.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 03:45:14 No.43207440 Report

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>>43207371
I think you're right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 04:13:44 No.43207560 Report

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>>43207351
Maybe RPGs just ain't for you. Pokémon was made with children in mind so many mechanics are streamlined compared to other RPGs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 04:53:45 No.43207700 Report

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>final fantasy
this series is all over the place. e.g. ff2 is a miserable disaster, ff3 is pretty cool. ff5 holds up best because it's silly and switching jobs means you have new builds all the time
>dragon quest
i know ff more than dq but they're very similar, dq is maybe higher quality. again, 5 is the best classic one
>radiant historia
who told you to play this lol. it's a decent, generic ds game.
>chrono trigger
i know people suck CT's dick but i don't like it much. the combat is so fucking easy and boring and the mishmash of characters makes it hard to give a fuck. wow my team has a robot, a cave woman and a talking frog, based.
>ni no kuni
eh it's okay. like you said it's similar to pokémon but with better combat

it sounds like you want monster collecting games and maybe something more comfy than insanely difficult. here's some recommendations
>dragon quest monsters joker 3
dq realized pokémon was ripping them off so this is payback. the monsters are cute as fuck and they have really cool skills. combat is very classic but the designers are brilliant. joker 3 is just the most refined version of the dqm series
>world of final fantasy
newer game but it plays like a classic. more fun if you already like final fantasy but still good either way. really fun combat based around making stacks of your guys and knocking down the enemy's stack. crazy complex evolution system
>shin megami tensei 4 apocalypse
smt games are hard but apocalypse is made for new players so it's a good place to get in. it's a bit different from pokémon since you often sacrifice your bros to gain new ones, but you can eventually get ones good enough to keep throughout the game
>digimon cyber sleuth
probably the closest to pokémon. not an amazing game but pretty fun and the setting is really cool. not many games about cyber crime

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Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 05:10:31 No.43207782 Report

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>>43207700
Thanks i will try them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 05:11:18 No.43207785 Report

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>>43207351
>This franchise has not ruined the experience in other RPGs?
Only if you're a retard who plays Pokemon for single-player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 06:56:07 No.43208176 Report

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You are the problem. All those games only remind me how trash this franchise always was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 07:01:38 No.43208187 Report

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>>43207351
>I'm supposed to take all the generic stories from these games seriously, the stories in Pokemon were generic but you weren't supposed to care too much
You choose whether to care or not. Some games have really good stories though (FF6, DQ5)

>Why am I being charged for healing?
They are resource-management games. Gold is a resource.

>Why can't I save the game in the dungeons?
Tie in with previous point. You can't save and reload if the next battle goes wrong. Can you manage your resources well enough traverse this entire dungeon?

>I really have to waste so much time farming exp?
Unless you are playing NES RPGs, no. Actually I'm going to call you out as somewhat of a casual here. If you are new to the genre and only played Pokémon before, those new games will seem "unfair" because they are more difficult. They can be beaten without grinding but since grinding is always available it gives players a cope out of "Oh, the game is too hard, you HAVE to grind".

>Why are these monsters so horrible and poorly designed? They make Garbodor look beautiful.
Opinion

>Do I have to put up with all these members of my party all the time?
What the fuck does that even mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 07:15:12 No.43208235 Report

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>>43208187
>you are only good if you go full masochism mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 11:16:21 No.43209218 Report

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>>43207351
Jarpigs fuckin' suck, they have shitty movepools and bland or bloated mechanics, uninspired plots, uncompelling enemy design, and worse balance (in terms of the relation between your party and the enemies), not to mention the lack of meaningful post-game play (I'm including competitive in this).
I have in mind Kanto through Sinnoh, primarily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 14:48:23 No.43210315 Report

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>>43207351

To me it's the opposite. J-RPGs made me see how poorly done Pokémon has always been.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 14:56:16 No.43210368 Report

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>>43207351
it has had an opposite effect on me.
Playing other JRPGs made me realise how braindead and barebones pokemon actually is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 05 Apr 2020 19:47:17 No.43212405 Report

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>>43207351
just another whiny /vp/er

Go ahead, post a monster design that is bad and tell us why it's bad other than "It doesn't look like a pokemon".

This is literally like eating hamburgers your whole life and going to italy to eat genuine spaghetti and you complain that there's not even any buns or pickles, must be shit food.

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