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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:25:11 No.43369322 View View Reply Original Report

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ITT: Post cursed BSTs

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:26:23 No.43369328 Report

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>>43369322

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:26:29 No.43369329 Report

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anything that isn't in OU is trash

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:28:10 No.43369335 Report

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>>43369322
I'm still fucking mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:28:14 No.43369336 Report

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>>43369322
Isn't that Incineroar? And even if it isn't, that BST is good. Bulky, and able to run physical or special. Fast enough to outspeed hard trick room, slow enough to benefit from trick room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:29:01 No.43369338 Report

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>>43369336
>Yellow background

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:29:18 No.43369342 Report

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>>43369336
Eeleketross

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:30:02 No.43369345 Report

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>>43369328
Sunkern?

>>43369335
Tropius deserved better

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:31:54 No.43369350 Report

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>>43369322

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:31:59 No.43369352 Report

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>>43369328

this is blessed, not cursed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:32:20 No.43369353 Report

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>>43369345
Yes and yes, 100%

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 07:37:14 No.43369368 Report

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>>43369350
But Porygon got his SpA buffed to 85 in gen 2.
That makes it totally fine.
Also, Porygon was meant to be balanced by its movepool, even though it didn't exactly work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:07:15 No.43369473 Report

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>>43369329
>>>/smogon/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:08:20 No.43369478 Report

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>>43369322
It's criminal that Eelektross only has base 515. Takes reaching level 39 and a Thunderstone to get one, yet Gyarados just needs to be level 20 and has 540. Yeah it's got no weaknesses and a great movepool, but it's not that good because of its average stats. Especially for the effort it takes to get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:18:03 No.43369509 Report

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>>43369329
Does that mean Ubers are trash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:26:44 No.43369530 Report

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>>43369509
yes ubers are trash

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:40:09 No.43369599 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:46:17 No.43369633 Report

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>>43369329
>All of Ubers is trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:52:28 No.43369656 Report

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>>43369599
cute balls

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:54:55 No.43369665 Report

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>>43369599
420

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:56:45 No.43369675 Report

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>This is a fully evolved mon

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:57:23 No.43369678 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:57:51 No.43369681 Report

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>>43369633
yes, all of ubers is trash
congratulations, you managed to parrot what I said

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 09:00:49 No.43369690 Report

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>>43369678
SLOW

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 09:04:54 No.43369706 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 09:05:28 No.43369710 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 09:17:01 No.43369747 Report

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>>43369329
So mega Fug is trash?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 09:20:23 No.43369761 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 09:20:24 No.43369762 Report

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>>43369706
>130 Attack with decent bulk
As a non-competitive tard how is this in any way a bad spread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 09:28:56 No.43369803 Report

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>>43369706
Copperajah?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 09:30:55 No.43369813 Report

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>>43369761
>eevee, tangela and misdreavus BST
How is this allowed?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 15:24:25 No.43371382 Report

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>>43369322

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 15:51:05 No.43371568 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 16:20:01 No.43371777 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 16:45:34 No.43371968 Report

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>>43371777
Do you think they will increase the stat cap after this thing?

Also checked

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 17:05:30 No.43372129 Report

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>>43369329
go back

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 17:06:48 No.43372139 Report

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>>43369335
A bulky spread like that would be alright were it not for being tied to one of the worst typings ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 17:08:18 No.43372151 Report

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>>43371968
It's not a playable Pokemon, so nah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 17:10:34 No.43372170 Report

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>>43371777
Checked but
>Focus Sash Gastly used curse!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 17:18:25 No.43372224 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 17:28:07 No.43372312 Report

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>>43371968
I guarantee they wanted higher HP but they couldn't figure out how to exceed 255
they teach you how in first year programming courses

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 17:41:13 No.43372402 Report

Quoted By: >>43373230 >>43382086 >>43382101

Is using glitch Pokemon cheating?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 19:34:03 No.43373194 Report

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>>43372312
Are you implying that Gamefreak's programmers aren't some of the best in their field?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 19:41:03 No.43373230 Report

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>>43372402
how the fuck 0 def work out? if i blow on it does it die

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 20:07:02 No.43373446 Report

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>>43373230
Base stats are only part of the calculation of an actual stat.
As you can see on the right, the range for its defense goes from 5-51 at level 50 and 5-98 at level 100.
Definitely not gonna take a lot of hits, but it's still better off than Shedinja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 20:09:56 No.43373482 Report

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>>43369762
I'm not a competitive tard either, but that's not exactly what I'd call good bulk. The defensive stats are honestly a bit below average, and since its speed is abysmal, that means it's guaranteed to take a hit. I imagine it'd get 2HKOed by a neutral attack from a strong Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 22:53:03 No.43375372 Report

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>>43369762
>122/69/69
>good bulk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 23:37:36 No.43375921 Report

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>>43375372
capper raj

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 23:38:39 No.43375937 Report

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>>43369813
stonjourner

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 23:39:45 No.43375950 Report

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>>43369761
wigglytuff. this pokemon got so fucked in the bst department

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 23:43:57 No.43376007 Report

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>>43372224
>this is a fully evolved pokemon.
>FUCKING MAGBY has almost as much at 365 bst

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 23:45:40 No.43376032 Report

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>>43369322
I'm still mad that they didn't put that 130 stat in defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 23:46:23 No.43376040 Report

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>>43369675
vullaby has better stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 23:47:45 No.43376055 Report

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someone post vikavolt's spread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 23:56:22 No.43376163 Report

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>>43369329
I agree with the spirit of that statement, but not the actual contents there-in.
OU is the only tier of play of Smogon Singles that matters outside of Little Cup which is GOAT, but there are plenty of mons stuck in lower tiers that are still OU viable (hell, some of which function better in OU than in their home tiers thanks to having better matchups against OU mons.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 23:57:43 No.43376175 Report

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>>43369368
>Also, Porygon was meant to be balanced by its movepool, even though it didn't exactly work.
Kind of silly when every mono-Normal had a fantastic movepool. All Porygon had was recover which is a laugh when its defenses are so mediocre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 23:59:30 No.43376197 Report

Quoted By: >>43381947

>>43369478
>Comparing Eelektross to Gyarados
That's just being intentionally obtuse. Gyarados's entire schtick is "phenomenal reward for raising a useless Pokemon like Magikarp", of course it has bloated stats. It'd be more accurate to compare Eelektross to Raichu, if anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 00:04:18 No.43376276 Report

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>>43369509
Ubers is just a glorified banlist that legendaryfags take too seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 00:12:00 No.43376368 Report

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>>43373446
>Definitely not gonna take a lot of hits
Tauros Body Slam vs. Glitchmon: 283-333 (105.2 - 123.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Persian Slash vs. Glitchmon on a critical hit: 357-420 (132.7 - 156.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Golem Earthquake vs. Glitchmon: 354-417 (131.5 - 155%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Golem Rock Slide vs. Glitchmon: 266-313 (98.8 - 116.3%) -- 92.3% chance to OHKO
Zapdos Drill Peck vs. Glitchmon: 248-292 (92.1 - 108.5%) -- 53.8% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 02:28:23 No.43378176 Report

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>>43372170
You either don't know what curse does or don't know how a focus sash works

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 02:56:19 No.43378512 Report

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>>43378176
Focus sash guarantees that Gastly has a turn to use curse, and curse makes it so Eternatus takes 1/4 damage every turn.
Gastly will die if Eternatus attacks and drops it below 1/2 HP, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 04:09:40 No.43379228 Report

Quoted By: >>43380646

>>43369675
Damn, that's weak.
Maybe adding 20 points to its speed would make it good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 07:27:40 No.43380554 Report

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>>43369322
The king of slow frail mixed attackers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 07:40:00 No.43380646 Report

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>>43379228

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 07:57:05 No.43380773 Report

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>>43376368
LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:21:00 No.43381730 Report

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>>43371382
>Sunkern used Grass Knot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:24:51 No.43381758 Report

Quoted By: >>43381816

>>43369322
Every electric-type with high attack and without a signature move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:30:56 No.43381784 Report

Quoted By: >>43381800

>>43380554
Who is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:33:29 No.43381800 Report

Quoted By: >>43381815

>>43381784
A slow frail mixed attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:34:57 No.43381815 Report

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>>43381800
Naruhodo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:35:01 No.43381816 Report

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>>43381758
Thunderpunch and Wild Charge exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:36:28 No.43381830 Report

Quoted By: >>43383251

>>43376032
You got it all wrong
Put the 100 in Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:40:20 No.43381852 Report

Quoted By: >>43384143

>>43381816
>exclusive to mons with hands
>recoil

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:46:25 No.43381897 Report

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>>43380554
The only slow frail mixed attacker to be in Uber truly the GOAT

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:47:44 No.43381904 Report

Quoted By: >>43382445 >>43393801 >>43394374

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:52:35 No.43381931 Report

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>>43373446
yeah, there's a jewtube video where someone beats R/B with only one missingno

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 10:57:21 No.43381947 Report

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>>43376197
Yeah but Tynamo is nearly as useless and takes a shitload of investment too, yet the reward isn't as good. I'm saying Eelektross should be perhaps not Gyarados level, but better statwise than it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 11:26:53 No.43382086 Report

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>>43372402
>the virgin English Red/Blue MissingNo vs the Chad Japanese Blue MissingNo

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 11:28:34 No.43382101 Report

Quoted By: >>43382413 >>43382481

>>43372402
>the virgin English Red/Blue MissingNo vs the Chad Japanese Blue MissingNo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 11:34:46 No.43382148 Report

Quoted By: >>43384143

>>43381816
> 75 BP
> sub 100 BP with recoil and dodgy accuracy
OK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 12:22:51 No.43382413 Report

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>>43382101
>FR Missingno.
SLOW

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 12:28:28 No.43382445 Report

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>>43381904
>98

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 12:33:13 No.43382481 Report

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>>43382101
>40% crit rate
The only thing that's relevant when you can max out every stat with ACE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 14:25:24 No.43383251 Report

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>>43381830
That wouldn't be possible in gen 1 though, unless you want it to have a shit special stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 14:34:52 No.43383317 Report

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>>43369710
Kartana?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 14:51:23 No.43383471 Report

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>>43375372
not gonna lie i was hoping it'd get heatproof

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 15:59:22 No.43384143 Report

Quoted By: >>43384504 >>43385038 >>43392386

>>43381852
>>43382148
What else do you want?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:33:12 No.43384504 Report

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>>43384143
An 80+ BP physical move with no drawbacks and decent distribution. Electric is the only type without one, making it shit for physical coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:48:50 No.43384714 Report

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>>43369690
FRAIL

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:54:01 No.43384780 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:55:34 No.43384807 Report

Quoted By: >>43385502

>>43369322
SLOW
Moderately Bulky
MIXED ATTACKER

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 17:06:33 No.43384960 Report

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>>43369762
Not only is it slow so it get hit by basically everyting, 122 base HP can only get you so far when you have no reliable recovery.
Copperajah base 69 defenses only make it as effectively bulky as Eelectross (typically only a 1-5% difference depending on EV spread), which as an 85/80/80 spread.

It does have the Steel typing which can let it switch in more often than Eelectross, however

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 17:14:32 No.43385038 Report

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>>43384143
For Wild Charge to be buffed to 120 BP so that Volt Tackle can become the Head Smash of Electric moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 17:49:51 No.43385502 Report

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>>43384807
>Moderately Bulky
You could make a decent argument that Eelektross is actually frail, the lack of meaningful resists and recovery hurt it a lot, and it being so slow and easy to force out makes it incredibly easy to rack up chip damage despite only being affected by Stealth Rock at 1x

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 18:12:49 No.43385808 Report

Quoted By: >>43386353 >>43386416 >>43386795 >>43392420

>>43376032
Was Flareon a bit more useful when there were less Pokemon and before the physical special split?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 18:55:33 No.43386353 Report

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>>43385808
It was literally always the same. Nothing changed since Gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 19:01:06 No.43386416 Report

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>>43385808
There's a small niche in gen 1 OU because of Fire Spin and access to body slam, but it's pretty much just a meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 19:39:33 No.43386795 Report

Quoted By:

>>43385808
No.
Flareon was actually worse before the P/S split because it had no STAB for its best stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 20:23:02 No.43387262 Report

Quoted By: >>43388075

>>43381897
who is this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 21:27:44 No.43388075 Report

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>>43387262
sord'n'bord of coinflips

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 01:16:18 No.43391003 Report

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>>43384780

hey my pointy-faced boy is perfect.
PERFECT.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 01:37:09 No.43391274 Report

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>>43372224
I will never fucking forgive game freak. They massacred my boy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 03:11:55 No.43392386 Report

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>>43384143
A decent physical electric type move that doesn't do recoil and can be learned by mons like Luxray and Eelektross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 03:15:39 No.43392420 Report

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>>43385808
Flareon was useful at the beggining of SwSh, but has fallen off by now

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 03:16:09 No.43392425 Report

Quoted By: >>43392739

>>43372224
>Attack: 35
>HA: Iron Fist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 03:54:32 No.43392739 Report

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>>43392425
I can't help but wonder what inspired them to make Ledian so bad.
Did Satoshi Tajiri lose a beetle fight to a kid with a ladybug who happened to be a fan of Kamen Rider?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 06:06:53 No.43393801 Report

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>>43381904
:*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 07:50:45 No.43394374 Report

Quoted By: >>43394444

>>43381904
Why did they give it 98 speed?
Seems like such an oddly specific number.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 08:04:22 No.43394444 Report

Quoted By: >>43394461

>>43394374
Why did they give Garchomp 102?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 08:06:30 No.43394452 Report

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>>43376007
The other early game bugs say hi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 08:07:52 No.43394461 Report

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>>43394444
That's also a good question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 08:44:17 No.43394572 Report

Quoted By: >>43394651

what is more manageable/less cursed defensibly?:
>150/44/54 w/90 Special Attack
>45/135/135 w/100 Attack

I want one of the two of these ghosty bois

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 08:58:25 No.43394651 Report

Quoted By: >>43394910

>>43394572
Go with the first one.
The second one is just irredeemably awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 09:52:23 No.43394910 Report

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>>43394651
is that a big difference between the two of them? thought Dusknoir was at least decent

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 10:03:30 No.43394966 Report

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>>43369706
It could be worse. Perrserker is even frailer, is weaker despite a higher attack stat and Tough cCaws because Iron Head is much weaker than Heavy Slam in most situations, and has a worse movepool overall. Being slightly faster doesn't matter when you're still slow as fuck, except now it's too fast for Trick Room too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 10:15:49 No.43395012 Report

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>>43376032
95HP
130 Atk
65 Def
60 SpA
65 SpD
110 Spe

Reckless as its ability is how it should be

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 10:21:42 No.43395039 Report

Quoted By: >>43395076

>>43376032
It'd just be a shittier Arcanine then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 10:28:43 No.43395076 Report

Quoted By:

>>43395039
give it fur coat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 10:35:51 No.43395120 Report

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>>43376032
Imagine giving Guts to a mon that can't be burned and whose only option for self-induced status affliction is toxic orb,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 10:42:01 No.43395155 Report

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Smogon should have a format like balanced hackmons except they vote and theorymon about how Pokemon should be such as Stat/type changes or whether Metagross should get Shift Gear or not

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