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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 14:39:19 No.43383369 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>43383376 >>43383380 >>43383383 >>43383689 >>43383711 >>43386392

So, why pokemon only have 4 attacks? I'm not asking for a in-lore explanation but a design one. It was some restriction from the original hardware that they never changed after, some backwards compatibility issue, they don't want to confuse kids with multiple attacks...it's just weird

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 14:40:05 No.43383376 Report

Quoted By: >>43383711

>>43383369
>So, why pokemon only have 4 attacks?
Game Balance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 14:40:14 No.43383380 Report

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>>43383369
Is it not suppsoed to be 6 moves, but something changed? I guess Gen3 or something like this?
I read a long time ago, but I don't remember.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 14:40:33 No.43383383 Report

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>>43383369
4 is good number.
5 seems way too much, 3 not enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 15:15:13 No.43383689 Report

Quoted By: >>43384420

>>43383369
There was an interview where they said they’ve tried out having more/less move slots and they always decide that four is the sweet spot. Then again, I think that was that shittily translated interview that implied SwSh would have 18 gyms, so who knows.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 15:17:08 No.43383711 Report

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>>43383369
They tried increasing the number of moves, but decided it didn't work. Like >>43383376 it's mainly for balance. Even giving Pokemon just one more move would break the game. You'd no longer have to choose between countering one thing or the other. You'd just be able to counter both.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 15:28:23 No.43383838 Report

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In a general sense you can do pretty much anything with 4 moves fairly. It's pretty perfect for balance in that you can have:
>a main attack
>a secondary attack for coverage
>a stat-boosting move
>a status-inflicting move
Especially in Gen I where the deadliest sets were pretty basic (psychic type with Psychic, Amnesia,etc

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 15:32:11 No.43383883 Report

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I'd allow a 5th move for each Pokemon, if they're willing to use their hold item slot on a TM that they can learn.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 15:35:14 No.43383909 Report

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5 moves would bring a massive powergap between Pokemon with large movepools and those without.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 15:36:45 No.43383922 Report

Quoted By: >>43383932 >>43386046

I still keep throwing around the idea of giving every pokemon a 5th moved slot, but it's locked to that species, (like every dugtrio could have dig, every electrode has explosion, etc) that way they could still have balance, give great free moves to shitmons, and stronger pokemon like garchomp could get mediocre shit (but still potentially useful) like sand tomb. It would be a good way to improve the variety of battles as they could give out fun utility moves that normally don't warrant a moveslot, like torment, spite, heal block, charge, etc.

It could increase variety, change up gameplay, and rebalance pokemon if done well. With a big IF

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 15:38:15 No.43383932 Report

Quoted By: >>43384274

>>43383922
Something like this, yeah

Every Charizard has Flamethrower, every Lucario has Aura Sphere, etc.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:11:43 No.43384274 Report

Quoted By: >>43384396

>>43383932
Every Heracross has Mega Horn, every Arcanine has Extreme Speed. I feel like they would make fairly unbalanced choices with some pokemon.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:23:33 No.43384396 Report

Quoted By: >>43384559

>>43384274
Every shuckle with body press, every slaking and regigigas with skill swap and so on.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:25:53 No.43384420 Report

Quoted By: >>43384510 >>43384791

>>43383689
SwSh does have 16 gyms. Half of them don't appear in the game, but NPCs do mention they exist.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:33:29 No.43384510 Report

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>>43384420
18 and you can buy the uniforms of the gyms you don't challenge in any existing gym. Not to mention the DLC character being part (or looking to become the leader) of the Poison/Psychic gyms.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:37:37 No.43384559 Report

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>>43384396
I was thinking more on the lines of they get their signature move or something that could be considered it like Inceneroar's Darkest Lariet or Delcatty would get Attact or Charm. Not nesscarily a good move for the pokemon but somthing that is part of the pokemons identity.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:38:51 No.43384574 Report

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What if not fully evolved pokemon got a 5th move slot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:54:36 No.43384791 Report

Quoted By: >>43384876

>>43384420
I know, but the article I was talking about didn’t make it clear that they wouldn’t all be in the game due to poor translation

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 17:00:34 No.43384876 Report

Quoted By: >>43385899

>>43384791
It basically said there were 8 Major League gyms, and 10 Minor League gyms.

The 8 gyms you see and challenge in-game are the Major League ones. The Minor League gyms are the shitty ones that aren't part of the Gym Challenge because their leaders are weak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 18:20:12 No.43385899 Report

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>>43384876
Why didn't they make the minor league the earlygame and then going through major league with higher levels

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 18:31:02 No.43386046 Report

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>>43383922
I actually really like this idea, and I usually don't like changes to the basic concepts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 18:58:08 No.43386392 Report

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>>43383369
Gay Freak can barely balance this fucking shitheap with only 4 move restriction
Imagine the system completely breaking apart with 5 or more, which it would. You literally can't convince me that Game Freak can balance the game around more moves.

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