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>>43440592
Unova has been on the rise but not nearly as much so as Sinnoh right now. What really gets the fanbase's nostalgia wave going is screeching about remakes, and that won't be for a long while for XY. Just wait, after Sinnoh is inevitably remade there's going to be a massive wave of "I never understood why people didn't like gen 5 it was great" when the unovabortions rise up in full force hoping for their misunderstood region to get the recognition it deserves through remakes.

t. someone who honestly likes gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 17:15:14 No.43440733 Report

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>>43440651
Nostalgia is my love for red and blue, XY being better than swsh is just logical

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 17:16:18 No.43440743 Report

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>>43440592
I've been prepared since the Hoenn kids in the early 2010s

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Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 17:18:00 No.43440762 Report

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>>43440651
he's right you know

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Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 17:19:04 No.43440774 Report

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>>43440660
Okay. See you in 2028.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 17:20:06 No.43440789 Report

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>>43440639
lol they're already here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 17:55:43 No.43441218 Report

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>>43440592
>m-muh zelda cycle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:06:58 No.43441372 Report

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>>43441218
It’s like this for every video game franchise. The one from a decade ago is better then the current one. We’ve been through this with every Gen and we are currently transitioning from Gen 4 to Gen 5 nostalgia with Gen 6 Nostalgia coming up soon

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Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:17:22 No.43441487 Report

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>>43441372
Surely it couldn't possibly be because GF keeps shitting more and more the bed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:19:28 No.43441510 Report

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>>43440592
I'm not ready for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:21:24 No.43441528 Report

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It's already been happening. Well, maybe not so much nostalgiafags but there has been plenty of XY apologism over the years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:24:25 No.43441555 Report

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>>43440592
What are you talking about OP, the shitty zoomer fortnite buckaroos already infest this board fighting over which shit gen is better between 3 and 4

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Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:27:52 No.43441590 Report

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>>43441528
XY were mostly bad but there were some kino shit on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:28:52 No.43441600 Report

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>>43440592
Makes sense considering it was better than BW and BW2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:28:58 No.43441601 Report

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>>43440592
BW or XY will be the last games to coast on nostalgia.
Kids aren't playing pokemon and even though these games are targeted at kids the vast majority of people playing are in the 18-36 age bracket.
Constantly catering to an aging fanbase while less and less new fans are being made is a recipe for eventual disaster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:31:19 No.43441619 Report

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>>43441590
I'm waiting for the kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:32:12 No.43441630 Report

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>>43440592
>muh XY bad
It was genuinely better than both SM and SwSh. I've been playing since gen 2 and XY gave me the most fun I've had with this franchise, and I'm not being ironic or baiting. Does fun equal good? No, I know it doesn't, but you can't deny that the games brought a lot of things and had a lot of (lost) potential.
I mean
>beautiful region
>PSS
>Amie
>incentive to breed, trade and battle
>megas
>amazing OST
>best customization
>wide variety of available Pokemon
>best cover legendary duo, both are incredibly gorgeous and perfectly fit their theme
>nice new Pokemon who are not too simple but not overdesigned either, just right
>fun

I know XY is riddled with flaws but imo those things it did well, it did them REALLY well and it's annoying that people would rather parrot what they see here rather than think for themselves. Saying that "XY literally did NOTHING good" without even admitting the good things is incredibly disingenuous.

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Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:35:32 No.43441663 Report

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>>43441601
I've recently been playing through Ultra Moon for the first time and it's so funny how the postgame makes such a big deal about Team Rocket and Giovanni. All I can think of is kids playing this game, even ones that started generations ago, wondering why they should give a shit at all about these guys they don't know or care about. It's pretty funny how GF thinks that all kids live for Kanto the way they used to, like they're totally unaware of the fact that their fanbase ages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:38:04 No.43441686 Report

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>>43441630
Alola is dragged down by cutscenes but it's still above XY the way I see it. Better realized and varied region, better characters and story, shakes up the gym system, better music, better new pokemon, better legendary pokemon, refresh is better than amie. I can't argue with the PSS, and XY is definitely better than SwSh at least.

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Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:39:57 No.43441701 Report

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>>43441630
All of what you said is completely subjective except for the designs

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Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:40:59 No.43441718 Report

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>>43441619
here, i think you were looking for something like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:44:19 No.43441752 Report

Quoted By: >>43441855 >>43444627

>>43440592
It was the first mediocre Pokémon game. Even hoen was at least decent.
That said XY was better than SM and SS but it doesn't excuse it of being mediocre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:54:04 No.43441855 Report

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>>43441752
>It was the first mediocre Pokémon game.
RS exists so no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 19:36:26 No.43442255 Report

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>>43440789
ok this was cringe lmao

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Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 23:25:26 No.43444627 Report

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>>43441752
>XY was better than SM

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Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 23:37:56 No.43444727 Report

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>>43440592
The best its gonna get "its fine", "it does some cool things" and "its not that bad" since its so bland and the gen before it and after it at least do something interesting. Still better than SM tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 23:44:33 No.43444769 Report

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>>43441590
Honestly the stretch from gym one to gym 2 and arguably even before the first gym was some of the most fun I've had in pokemon ever. I spent so much time shuffling my mons around and growing berries before moving on, that was probably the biggest stretch of time I've ever had between gyms, like over 12 hours on my first playthrough

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 23:52:34 No.43444813 Report

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>>43441855
RS are great even without emerald I don't see why they get shit on so hard. They included an improved battle tower and trainer rematches and some extra areas and mysteries for the postgame, as well as things like contests, which is as much as gen 2 had and then some
>Inb4 gen 2 had all of kanto
If you consider kanto postgame then gen 2 has a super short maingame so it still balances out
That's not even considering emerald

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 23:55:05 No.43444828 Report

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>>43440660
Legitimately wrong. XY were good, not fantastic but the standards keep getting lower and lower

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 23:56:07 No.43444836 Report

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>>43444813
>RS are great even without emerald
Just like XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 00:04:50 No.43444897 Report

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>>43440592
Once that happens, Genwunners should start getting a pass for wearing their nostalgia goggles. At least the Gen I games were actually good when they came out. Everybody with experience of the franchise knew XY were mediocre at best upon release. You can only consider them to be good if they were literally your first Pokemon game.

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Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 00:07:20 No.43444916 Report

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>>43444897
>Everybody with experience of the franchise knew XY were mediocre at best upon release
Nice meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 00:20:25 No.43445014 Report

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>>43444916
lol metacritic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 00:21:53 No.43445028 Report

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>>43445014
I'd rather trust metacritic over /vp/'s zoomer circlejerk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 00:27:34 No.43445069 Report

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>>43440660
Sun and moon are already feeling nostalgic for me, lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 00:32:15 No.43445110 Report

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>>43444836
Nah
XY have much more problems than extra postgame, honestly idc if they largely kept the same postgame but I they needed much more polish to the main game, the whole game should be as good as that one stretch from gym 1-2

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Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 00:34:02 No.43445126 Report

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>>43440592
It already happened and that's a good thing. Pokemon was never bad.

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Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 00:34:57 No.43445130 Report

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>>43445110
>XY have much more problems than extra postgame
Just like RS.

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Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 01:15:33 No.43445495 Report

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>>43440592
I've been playing Pokemon since before I could read back to Blue, so I'm more nostalgic for the earlier stuff.

XY though, even though they were meh games overall, are going to be nostalgic to me because of it's release rather than the games. It was around the end of high-school when they came out and all my friends were getting 3DSs and getting back into Pokemon, so it was fun to have that revival happen at that time.

It was really the last time a lot of us did anything together before growing apart, but it was probably for the best.

Still nice to have memories though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 01:39:13 No.43445723 Report

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>>43441630
It has the most forgettable nostalgia pandering OST. The tunes are just sad fanfare that sound like they're from the anime. And Pokemon Refresh is better than Amie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 01:43:22 No.43445763 Report

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>>43445723
>It has the most forgettable nostalgia pandering OST. The tunes are just sad fanfare that sound like they're from the anime.
Sounds like DPPt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 01:53:09 No.43445854 Report

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>>43445130
No, Ruby and Sapphire has a very good maingame, with solid pacing a fair amount of stuff to do, and a good level curve, and the last gym leader uses 5 pokemon instead of fucking 3. Literally all of XYs most glaring problems don't exist in RS. Not that RS are perfect, but they are really solid games for their time and are some of the meatier games on the system.

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Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 01:58:19 No.43445910 Report

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>>43440592
Not if Sinnohomos and Unovabortions keep fighting forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 02:18:29 No.43446096 Report

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>>43445854
>No, Ruby and Sapphire has a very good maingame, with solid pacing a fair amount of stuff to do, and a good level curve,
Just like XY.

>and the last gym leader uses 5 pokemon instead of fucking 3.
Yet the 7th gym leader uses 2 pokemon, LMAO

>Literally all of XYs most glaring problems don't exist in RS.
Yes they do.

>but they are really solid games for their time and are some of the meatier games on the system.
Just like XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 02:26:53 No.43446179 Report

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>>43446096
>Yes they do.
Go on, list them. Which glaring problems from XY also exist in RS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 02:43:21 No.43446318 Report

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>>43446179
I don't know because XY doesn't have any glaring problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 06:23:55 No.43447774 Report

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>>43444769
I agree, I love that section of the game. For me, everything kinda turns to shit once you hit Cyllage City

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