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VGC usage stats for April

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 10:21:59 No.43458701 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>43458721 >>43459134 >>43459152 >>43459222 >>43459363 >>43461277 >>43463036 >>43463039 >>43465596 >>43467758 >>43470576 >>43475696

I-Incinebros?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 10:26:41 No.43458710 Report

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oh no no no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 10:28:57 No.43458721 Report

Quoted By: >>43458740 >>43458742 >>43458833 >>43467765

>>43458701
Why dusclops

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 10:32:08 No.43458732 Report

Quoted By: >>43458760 >>43458821

why pult
fast, frail mons are usually shit in VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 10:35:22 No.43458740 Report

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>>43458721
Room of Trickery. Dusclops is in theory impossible to OHKO and will always set it up. That's been its niche since like 2013

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 10:35:53 No.43458742 Report

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>>43458721
Trick Room, Eviolite make it have like 195 bst in def. And it can use Will o wisp.

You can also use Bulldoze for activate Weakness Policy with Rhyperior for exemple

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 10:40:18 No.43458760 Report

Quoted By: >>43467137

>>43458732
Dragon Darts target smartly avoid protect spam
Phantom force stalls dynamax turns
Clear Body blocks stat drop from intimate/Snarl

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 10:57:05 No.43458821 Report

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>>43458732
Its not that frail with Dynamax and stuff like Clefairy while it's speed and damage is umatched in this format, especially since it's immune to stat drops and Fake Out. It also started finding use as a support Pokemon for Coaloassal teams with Surf and Ally Switch/screens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 11:00:21 No.43458833 Report

Quoted By: >>43459502

>>43458721
Trick Room is more viable than ever

Plus as others said, nothing short of LO Helping Hand Max Phantasm from Dragapult (which can be redirected) is capable of one shotting it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 12:32:36 No.43459134 Report

Quoted By: >>43477566

>>43458701
INCINEROARBROS THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING WE GOT TOO COCKY!!! WHAT ABOUT CLOSCOMBAT WHAT ABOUT OUR BULK WE CAN'T BE BEHINED THAT STUPID DOG REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 12:35:59 No.43459152 Report

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>>43458701
Ghost types are best types

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 12:50:19 No.43459213 Report

Quoted By: >>43459228 >>43460681 >>43470503

Can someone redpill me on it? I imagine the abundance of ghosts made it harder to Fake Out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 12:52:32 No.43459222 Report

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>>43458701
I know it doesn't matter but I just noticed Decidueye, Alcremy, Primarina, Rillaboom and surprisingly Torracat are rising in useage? Decidueye and Torracat don't have mad usage but they're doing a lot more well than usual and that brings a smile to my face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 12:52:58 No.43459228 Report

Quoted By: >>43459248 >>43466291

>>43459213
intimidate and snarl were nerfed due to buffs to other abilities like Inner Focus, giving Arcanine a niche over Incineroar as a Fairy-resistant intimidator

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 12:56:51 No.43459248 Report

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>>43459228
Yeah and what makes things worst for incineroar is that Corvinight with mirroramor shuts it down. But since the dog can run mix well it doesn't really worry about Corvinight setting up irondef and bodypressing it to death. I would say I feel bad for incineroar but I'd be lying out of my mouth. Dog>>>>>incelroar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 12:59:12 No.43459266 Report

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>>43459248
it's amazing that just 8 months ago people were hailing roar as the best VGC mon ever, poised to dominate for the next half decade
then its utility immediately drops the next format

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 13:10:20 No.43459325 Report

Quoted By: >>43459333 >>43459485

>>43459266
Honestly seeing this cat finally go down even a little brings my faith back tok Pokemon. Incineroar's fandom or whatever is left of it is toxic as heck and the last few years was evidence of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 13:11:44 No.43459333 Report

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>>43459325
Too*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 13:19:01 No.43459363 Report

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>>43458701
link pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 13:45:47 No.43459485 Report

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>>43459325
it wasn't worth it, GameFreak completely fucked up the game with the Gen VIII changes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 13:48:36 No.43459502 Report

Quoted By: >>43460012 >>43460583

>>43458833
>Trick Room is more viable than ever
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 15:05:04 No.43459994 Report

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>>43459363
https://www.pikalytics.com/pokedex/ss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 15:07:39 No.43460012 Report

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>>43459502
Better abusers I guess. Dynamax Rhyperior, G-Max Hatterene and Torkoal just to name a few.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 15:53:21 No.43460274 Report

Quoted By: >>43464241

>>43459266
Wait till pursuit is brought back and the give it to Incin. GG GAMEFREAK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 16:31:42 No.43460516 Report

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>>43459485
Agreed but we can't ignore it when they do at least one thing right, right? Although considering the buff they gave to that shitty cat I assume they were probably expecting the same results as last gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 16:40:13 No.43460583 Report

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>>43459502
Speed tiers are all over the place, we have Pokemon like Ferrothorn, Rhyperior, Hatterene, and Snorlax who thrive in that speed as well as Max Airstream and Tailwind being so common this reverses that advantage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 16:54:00 No.43460664 Report

Quoted By: >>43460776

>>43459266
Just wait until legendaries are back, Inci will shine again there. For now, I am enjoying the lack of Baracat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 16:57:28 No.43460681 Report

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>>43459213
The meta revolves around Dynamax and Weakness Policy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 17:11:19 No.43460776 Report

Quoted By: >>43461039 >>43461505

>>43460664
I thought adding in legendary Pokemon would knock down baracat at this point. I mean considering it's already getting outshined by a pokemon simular to it. But I guess we'll just have to see huh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 17:49:10 No.43461039 Report

Quoted By: >>43461316

>>43460776
You never know. Primal Groudon, some U beasts, Zacian, and some other legends are bothered by a -1 attack. I'm going to wager Zacian is going to be main meta coupled with most likley a Competitive user like Milotic in case the go for an Intimidate. Getting a free +1 attack on switch in with a base attack and speed like that, a move that does double damage to Dmaxes is especially going to be bonkers right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 18:20:52 No.43461277 Report

Quoted By: >>43461293 >>43462763

>>43458701
Why is Arcanine getting more usage than Incineroar?
I was told that it was just a worse Incineroar in every way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 18:22:53 No.43461293 Report

Quoted By: >>43466291

>>43461277
That speed and monotyping isnt anything to sneeze at since it resists fairies. Also, Juti-Beat combos as well as intimidate sets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 18:26:22 No.43461316 Report

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>>43461039
>some other legends are bothered by a -1 attack.
just use Body Press, most of the legends have high enough defenses that it'll always hurt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 18:54:25 No.43461505 Report

Quoted By: >>43462782

>>43460776
Actually, since legendary pokemon are seemingly weighted toward being Psychic, Incineroar's Dark type is a boon that'll help it against Mewtwo, Solgaleo, Lunala, and the Necrozma forms, plus having fire for Cobalion, Virizion, Solageo, Dusk Mane Necrozma, and the Crowned Dogs is nice too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 19:52:14 No.43461994 Report

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Gengar's looking pretty good against 5 of the top 6. Gmax Lapras too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 21:14:08 No.43462763 Report

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>>43461277
And Arcainine can run mix well so it counters corvi that and it outspeeds it too. Oh and it has a grass stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 21:17:40 No.43462782 Report

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>>43461505
>Incineroar's Dark type is a boon

Clearly you don't know how Ubers is working now. It's also Dynamax + WP spam. Snarl vs Necrozma DM is a bad idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 21:46:07 No.43463021 Report

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>>43459266
>has nothing to do with how shit a game gen 8 is
>totally nothing to do with missing moves and shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 21:46:37 No.43463030 Report

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Top Dragapult counters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 21:47:36 No.43463036 Report

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>>43458701
OH NO WE GOT TOO COCKY INCINECHADS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 21:47:45 No.43463039 Report

Quoted By: >>43463649

>>43458701
So wheres the owls usage btw?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 22:45:09 No.43463642 Report

Quoted By: >>43465416 >>43475714

>>43459266
Good. As someone who has Incineroar as one of his favorite Pokemon, I am still glad that Game Freak acknowledged it was an overpowered, overcentralized threat and made numerous efforts to nerf its tools in the next gen. Can't wait to see how GF will neuter Togekiss and Dragapult in Gen 9.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 22:45:28 No.43463649 Report

Quoted By: >>43463775

>>43463039
Hoot is moot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 22:55:19 No.43463757 Report

Quoted By: >>43464704 >>43476902

What do you think of this:
Wide Guard and Ally Switch Mr. Mime to stop fairy moves coupled with a Hydreigon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 22:57:17 No.43463775 Report

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>>43463649
Say it ain't so!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2020 23:42:08 No.43464241 Report

Quoted By: >>43472907

>>43460274
Pursuit never mattered in VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 00:33:56 No.43464704 Report

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>>43463757
Sounds like a meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 01:53:52 No.43465416 Report

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>>43463642
>I am still glad that Game Freak acknowledged it was an overpowered, overcentralized threat and made numerous efforts to nerf its tools in the next gen
Are kidding? It didn't really get nerfd desu. Sure they made some abilities dodge the attack drop but that was pretty much it. They basically buffed it more with Closecombat and some other moves. It was a little nerf to intimadate not really to the stupid cat. GF still shows it's bias for the thing and it's too obvious

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 02:13:12 No.43465596 Report

Quoted By: >>43466291

>>43458701
How is Arcanine higher?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 03:36:48 No.43466291 Report

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>>43465596

>>43459228
>>43459248
>>43461293

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 03:38:04 No.43466302 Report

Quoted By: >>43466931

Is Dragon Darts blocked by Wide Guard? My gut says no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 04:57:19 No.43466873 Report

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agree this game is a steaming pile of shit and move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 05:05:21 No.43466931 Report

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>>43466302
Dragon Darts is not a spread move, so no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 05:36:40 No.43467137 Report

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>>43458760
>Dragon Darts target smartly avoid protect spam
What the fuck? That's absolute bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 08:00:28 No.43467758 Report

Quoted By: >>43467767 >>43470516 >>43475723

>>43458701
Funny how Ttar is thriving in VGC despite being on life support in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 08:01:52 No.43467765 Report

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>>43458721
It's a monster with Eviolite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 08:02:20 No.43467767 Report

Quoted By: >>43469142

>>43467758
he makes sand, sand makes him bulky as fuck, so the combos with that mixed with he fact he can take a hit really make him stand out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 14:11:08 No.43469142 Report

Quoted By: >>43470474 >>43470525

>>43467767
All of that is still true in OU, but he's floundering there anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 17:37:11 No.43470474 Report

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>>43469142
well doubles can be kinder to burly attackers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 17:41:39 No.43470503 Report

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>>43459213
dynamax also made fake out a lot worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 17:43:41 No.43470516 Report

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>>43467758
the lack of pursuit is less impactful I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 17:44:44 No.43470525 Report

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>>43469142
Its cause Dynamax is banned. Tyranitar thrives as a Weakness Policy abuser and Dynamax is perfect for those sets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 17:49:00 No.43470576 Report

Quoted By: >>43471469

>>43458701
It's still fucking 24% usage, why are you laughing like nobody uses it anymore
Incelroar is still everywhere

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Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 18:07:09 No.43470733 Report

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God, Raichu is an amazing support Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 19:30:07 No.43471469 Report

Quoted By: >>43472620

>>43470576
Because retards hailed it as the second coming of VGChrist and then it dropped like a fucking rock, thats why. Fucking Arcanine is higher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 21:14:13 No.43472418 Report

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I've been playtesting Komoo-o. He's a good pokemon, but this generation is just not for him. Fairies are on the field like 40% of the time, and his signature move means nothing when immune, at least resisted hits break sashes and do chip.

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Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 21:31:10 No.43472599 Report

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>>43459266
Because his Kween is not here yet.
Incinechad works better with Xerneas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 21:33:05 No.43472620 Report

Quoted By: >>43476541

>>43471469
I think you might be making stuff up because you're obsessed with Incelroar, anon

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Anonymous Sun 03 May 2020 21:59:25 No.43472907 Report

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>>43464241
That's what I'm saying. Wait until it does! Pult, indeedee, meowstic, cresselia. Fat cat gone get some

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 03:25:20 No.43475696 Report

Quoted By: >>43476554

>>43458701
>Dusclops is the 3rd best mon in VGC
>Dusknoir has been shit in every single format since its inception

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 03:28:48 No.43475714 Report

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>>43463642
>As someone who has Incineroar as one of his favorite Pokemon
You don't exist anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 03:30:41 No.43475723 Report

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>>43467758
It's B tier in viability anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 05:55:30 No.43476541 Report

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>>43472620
>backpedaling this hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 05:57:41 No.43476554 Report

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>>43475696
Good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:46:34 No.43476902 Report

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>>43463757
Nice try Verlisify.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:49:25 No.43476919 Report

Quoted By: >>43477076 >>43477123 >>43477292

>>43460012
>Dynamax Rhyperior

what the fuck is this thing doing now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 07:25:51 No.43477076 Report

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>>43476919
Killing shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 07:37:24 No.43477123 Report

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>>43476919
One of the best dynamax in VGC. Weakness Policy and Ally Switch TR Dusclops support makes it threatening.
Dusclops can Brick Break its partner or Bulldoze for some WP triggering set-ups too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 08:11:38 No.43477292 Report

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>>43476919
Dynamaxing to survive SE hits, taking SE hits, and generally being a monster afterwards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 09:13:20 No.43477566 Report

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>>43459134
Arcanine gets CC too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 09:27:36 No.43477633 Report

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>meta is based on hp and weaknesses policy
>WOAH INCINE BROS OH NO NO NO
Retards

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