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Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:03:39 No.43476595 View View Reply Original Report

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>people say gimmicks started with gen 6

But aren't pokeball seals a gimmick? Rotation battles and triple battles in gen 5 are a gimmick considering they've been dropped forever. Megas are the strangest considering it's a brand new form of evolution and the concept was never fleshed out. I wonder what we'll get next

>Pic unrelated

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Mon 04 May 2020 06:04:46 No.43476610 Report

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Following pokemon is a gimmick.
There, I said it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:06:20 No.43476618 Report

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>>43476595
>brand new form of evolution
It's just a form change. Castform, Cherrin, Darmanitan, and Meloetta already did mid-battle form changes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:06:34 No.43476620 Report

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>>43476610
>Stating the obvious
Yeah, no shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:06:48 No.43476622 Report

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when people refer to gimmicks they're typically talking about things that significantly affect battle on a fundamental level (megas, z-moves, cringemax etc)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:06:58 No.43476623 Report

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>>43476595
They’re talking about battle mechanic gimmicks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:07:18 No.43476627 Report

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>>43476610
It's a Kanto gimmick - used to easier sell "the same game but updated" to oldfags, make them think it adds to the experience of another run-through Kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:22:55 No.43476738 Report

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You’re right, abilities, breeding, playing as a girl, etc are all gimmicks. They aren’t inherently bad. Some make the games way better. There’s just a difference between including shit like seals, some photo mode or hidden grottos when compared to the last three big battle gimmicks. Marketing relies heavily on giving old Pokémon super epic new forms nowadays. They suck because GameFreak props them up as one of, if not the most, defining aspect of the games. Megas, Z-Moves and Gigantamax are what most people would think of first when thinking of the newer generations. Now that we’ve seen two be discarded immediately after becoming relevant, it makes it impossible for me to give a shit. Why care about Dynamax when we know Gen 9 won’t expand upon it? That’s one of biggest issues going on right now. TPC is building a world, always adding new shit and then knocking it down alongside everything else that isn’t Gen 1. There isn’t much identity to the series anymore since everything gets forgotten after we’re forced to care about it every few years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:35:25 No.43476832 Report

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Rate my bear team /vp/

Ursaring @ Damp Rock
Ability: Quick Feet
EVs: 252 HP / 132 Def / 124 SpD
Careful Nature
- Rain Dance
- Toxic
- Taunt
- Double-Edge

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Brave Nature
- Curse
- Body Slam
- Body Press
- Darkest Lariat

Beartic @ Focus Sash
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Avalanche
- Icicle Crash
- Swords Dance

Pangoro @ Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Endeavor
- Darkest Lariat
- Bullet Punch

Bewear @ Choice Band
Ability: Fluffy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature
- Double-Edge
- Close Combat
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake

Slaking @ Assault Vest
Ability: Truant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Giga Impact
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Play Rough

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:36:15 No.43476840 Report

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>>43476627
So???

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:37:22 No.43476849 Report

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>>43476610
First time Brett has been right about something.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:38:12 No.43476859 Report

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>>43476738
They pretty much confirmed they plan on introducing and dropping features (gimmicks) with each new gen in order to make it feel fresh. With that said a series like this would benefit from sticking to something and not dropping shit that works. There's no real reason why triple and rotation battles shouldn't be in gen 8 for the sake of variety. Same with Megas and Z moves. If they want to keep the focus on Their newest gimmick they could easily make the old gimmicks not as easily accessible but still have them in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 06:39:56 No.43476872 Report

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>>43476832
Since when is slaking a bear? You pleb

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 07:14:01 No.43477034 Report

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>>43476872
I couldn't think of any other bear types besides pre evos

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 07:21:22 No.43477054 Report

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>>43476595
Remember when they didn't FORCED you to use the gimmicks? Remember when they weren't even relevant on battles?
Yeah, good times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 07:28:28 No.43477087 Report

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>>43476595
Contests & Apricorns are gimmicks too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 07:34:46 No.43477110 Report

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>>43477034
What about that Koalamon with the log from Alola? Not a bear technically but maybe it counts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 07:43:03 No.43477145 Report

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>>43476595
The difference is that those are gameplay gimmicks that help make the experience of playing essentially the same game feel more unique. Things like pokeathelon and secret bases are like that too and everyone loves those things.
Mega evolutions and z moves and dynamax are battle gimmicks that ruin the competitive scene and even the balance of the main game in a lot of cases, making them come across as significantly less thought out and more to just sell merch or make kids say "OOOH cool battle animation that plays when I press button, MOMMY MOMMY PLEASE BUY NOWW"
The only battle related gimmick you mentioned was triple and rotation battles, but those were balanced for in-game purposes and were practically never used in pvp as far as I know.
They also weren't the center of the whole fucking game, gen 5 actually stood out without these things, as did other gens that aren't gen 6-8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 07:45:17 No.43477155 Report

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>>43476610
its a gimmick but its not a battle gimmick, and also has the benefit of being one of the only gimmicks in the series to be properly and fully utilized.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 07:51:35 No.43477187 Report

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>>43476595
Trade evolutions and mythicals are a gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 07:55:24 No.43477203 Report

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>>43477145
The whole reason they started adding battle gimmicks were kids weren't playing the side gimmicks (it's why they FORCED you into pokéstars studios in BW2 - because if it was optional, no fucker'd gone in). They got rid of side gimmicks because of kids - that they started putting them in-battle (AND monetising them - something a side gimmick wouldn't let them do) was also due to kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 08:44:52 No.43477458 Report

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>>43477034
Spinda?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 08:48:01 No.43477473 Report

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>>43477203
That makes sense
Pokestar studio was shit though.
Why can't the side gimmick be special battles with certain restrictions like only using a specific type enticing players to catch and raise pokemon. The wild area is dope but bland. The candys they introduced to level pokemon is cool though makes raising the pokemon you want to use easier

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 10:45:58 No.43477904 Report

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>>43477110
>>43477458
Thanks anons, didnt think of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 11:03:17 No.43477957 Report

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>>43477155
They weren't, really. Why would a Pokemon walk right behind you at all times, instead of doing so next to you? Also improper scaling, which is something /vp/ apparently really cares about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 11:13:49 No.43477990 Report

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>>43476595
>people say gimmicks started with gen 6
no one over said that, contest were a gimmick
following mons were a gimmick
those pokemon sports game was a gimmick

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 11:48:32 No.43478132 Report

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>>43477034
because bearmons usually get fucked over by fighting i like using reuniclus and call it a gummy bear

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 12:51:24 No.43478340 Report

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>>43476595
Not really, because those aren't directly changing the meta. Those are just external things that you can do if you want. Yes, you can call them "gimmicks", but those aren't the gimmicks people are talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 13:01:59 No.43478386 Report

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>>43477034
>>43477110
>>43477458
>>43477904
>tfw everyone forgets the box legendary of the upcoming DLCs
This is how unremarkable nugen legendaries are

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 13:04:11 No.43478396 Report

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>>43478386
You're stupid. It's not even available yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 13:05:24 No.43478405 Report

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>>43478396
Yeah and it's already a flop lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 13:19:19 No.43478471 Report

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>>43478405
Can't call it a flop till we know the sales...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2020 13:23:17 No.43478487 Report

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>>43476610
No shit Sherlock.

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