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STABmons isn't a real meta so much as a laboratory to see how broken mons would be with unrestricted movepools.
Dragapult's ban reflects just how oppressive it is without a STAB Ghost move. It's already quite good in natdex with Ghostium Z while amazing versus HO and leads in general.

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Anonymous Sat 09 May 2020 16:12:45 No.43526202 Report

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>>43526084
An Other Meta where Pokémon can learn almost any move of their respective types (with the exception of some moves that are banned from being learned in this way). So for example, you can have any Ghost-type learn Spectral Thief or Moongeist Beam, or have a Boomburst Eevee and evolve it into Pixilate Sylveon.

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Anonymous Sat 09 May 2020 16:13:13 No.43526205 Report

Quoted By: >>43526210

Call me when STAAAB bans it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 May 2020 16:14:26 No.43526210 Report

Quoted By: >>43526221 >>43527161

>>43526205
Is that STABmons + Almost Any Ability? Sounds fucking wild.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 May 2020 16:15:46 No.43526221 Report

Quoted By: >>43527318

>>43526210
Yeah, one of my favourite sets last gen was Magnet Pull Drapion which traps Celesteela and then spams Coil/Quiver Dance before unleashing Power Trip but it doesn't work without Heal Order.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 May 2020 16:27:41 No.43526320 Report

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>>43526034
>give one of the fastest Pokemon in the entire game access to Spectral Thief, arguably the best offensive move in the entire game ,and Clangorous Soul
I'm surprised it didn't get banned sooner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 May 2020 18:28:33 No.43527161 Report

Quoted By: >>43527318

>>43526210
>Magic Guard Quiver Dance Mind Blown Volcarona
Those were the days

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Anonymous Sat 09 May 2020 18:39:45 No.43527246 Report

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>>43526084
A fanfic meta where Pokemon can learn any move of their type.
Considering the fact that the main thing holding Dragapult back in normal play is its lack of physical ghost STAB, it makes sense that giving it Spectral Thief would push it over the edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 May 2020 18:47:31 No.43527318 Report

Quoted By: >>43530042 >>43530130

>>43526221
>>43527161
See I hadn't gotten past Technician DD DD Shadow Sneak Dragapult being an option, that's some big brain shit right there. Is Gen VIII STAAAB even a thing right now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 May 2020 19:09:27 No.43527476 Report

Quoted By: >>43528751 >>43530139

>>43526091
>Other Metas
Gen 8 really did a number on them, at least in my experience Mix and Mega is virtually unplayable in comparison to the USUM version

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Anonymous Sat 09 May 2020 22:06:31 No.43528751 Report

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>>43527476
They did recently ban Lunala, so that’s something

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 01:12:46 No.43530042 Report

Quoted By: >>43530076 >>43530139

>>43527318
I don’t think so. No one’s been talking about it yet.
Speaking of potential sets
>Desolate Land V-Create Cinderace or Darmanitan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 01:17:18 No.43530076 Report

Quoted By: >>43530109 >>43530147

>>43530042
>Primordial Sea Fishious Rend Barraskewda

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 01:22:07 No.43530109 Report

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>>43530076
>Tinted Lens Double Iron Bash Excadrill

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 01:25:21 No.43530130 Report

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>>43527318
Yes, best pult sets are adaptability band and specs since the only switchins are immunities and you have to scout the move first.

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 01:26:56 No.43530139 Report

Quoted By: >>43530150 >>43530164 >>43531476

>>43530042
They banned V-create but apparently he regrets it since it killed off physical fire types entirely.
>>43527476
That aggronite change was over the fucking line.

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 01:28:10 No.43530147 Report

Quoted By: >>43530323

>>43530076
>>43530109
Fishious Rend and DIB are banned in stabmons and staaab is currently suspecting tinted lens (even though melmetal is the real problem)

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 01:29:04 No.43530150 Report

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>>43530139
>aggronite change
What happened?

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 01:30:44 No.43530163 Report

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>>43530150
It used to add steel type but now it just removes secondary types. They also removed orb compatibility so charizardite y is unchecked.

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 01:30:47 No.43530164 Report

Quoted By: >>43532997

>>43530139
How does Aggronite work in MnM?
Does every mon become mono-steel, or do rock types just lose their rock typing?

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 01:55:42 No.43530323 Report

Quoted By: >>43530629

>>43530147
>staaab is currently suspecting tinted lens
Link?

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 02:41:32 No.43530629 Report

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>>43530323
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/om-mashup-megathread.3657159/page-7#post-8454711

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 05:01:24 No.43531476 Report

Quoted By: >>43532019 >>43537183

>>43530139
The orb change was fair game even if it might've damaged the meta, honestly they should re-consider the Aggronite decision some time in the future
>>43528751
They're looking to do something about Zeraora too

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 06:44:49 No.43532019 Report

Quoted By: >>43532997

>>43531476
>They're looking to do something about Zeraora too
Yep. btw didn’t Balanced Hackmons suspect Shell Smash? Is it still going on?

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 11:54:51 No.43532997 Report

Quoted By: >>43535931 >>43538191

>>43532019
Its still going
>>43530164
The mon loses their second type, if they have one. So Hydreigon changes from Dark/Dragon to just Dark for example

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 16:33:55 No.43534312 Report

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Bump

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 20:17:15 No.43535931 Report

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>>43532997
>The mon loses their second type, if they have one. So Hydreigon changes from Dark/Dragon to just Dark for example
Damn. No wonder I haven’t faced people who used Aggronite. Becoming a Steel type was arguably the best part of using it

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Anonymous Sun 10 May 2020 23:13:36 No.43537183 Report

Quoted By: >>43538812

>>43531476
What was the orb change anyway?

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2020 01:24:43 No.43538191 Report

Quoted By: >>43538812 >>43540088

>>43532997
That seems like it could be useful in niche situations.
I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm sure they exist.

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2020 02:56:27 No.43538812 Report

Quoted By: >>43541335

>>43537183
So just this gen the council decided that Red Orb and Blue Orb weren't actually mega stones and they were removed from play
>>43538191
It used to be great, now its marginal at best

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2020 06:23:22 No.43539930 Report

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Bump

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2020 06:32:47 No.43539994 Report

Quoted By: >>43540109

>>43526034
like 5 people play this meta who cares

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2020 06:49:38 No.43540088 Report

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>>43538191
A mon who wants to be mono fairy/ghost?
Then number of Fairy/X types are small and Gengar woudl rather keep Poison for the Fairy killing power

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2020 06:52:57 No.43540109 Report

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>>43539994
The 5 people who play this meta

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2020 11:10:12 No.43541335 Report

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>>43538812
Damn. Makes you wonder why they allowed it in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2020 15:32:40 No.43542485 Report

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