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Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 17:52:03 No.43580307 View View Reply Original Report

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Thoughts on vgc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 17:55:05 No.43580337 Report

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I don't think this is VGC. You got a Cinderace there and I haven't seen the rabbit in Doubles in a looooooooooooooooong fucking time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 18:08:23 No.43580491 Report

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>>43580307
>Rotom w
>Ferrothorn
>Cinderace
>Aegis
That's outdated as hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 18:13:21 No.43580552 Report

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>>43580307
I'm pretty sure this is Battle Stadium Singles, not VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 18:18:36 No.43580608 Report

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>>43580307
Very Gay, Cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 20:54:42 No.43582207 Report

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>>43580307
>VGC
So this is what Gamefreak thinks of the postgame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 21:14:27 No.43582414 Report

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>>43580307
that is singles 3v3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 21:25:47 No.43582510 Report

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>>43580307
Grimmsnarl with Truck and Eject Button in too much troll vs dynamax

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 21:30:51 No.43582566 Report

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>>43580307
Grimmsnarl with Trick and Eject Button in too much troll vs dynamax, obviously with a ally mon that actives the Button

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 21:35:31 No.43582603 Report

Quoted By: >>43582620 >>43583446

>>43580307
That's not even VGC.
These are the top mons in VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 21:37:19 No.43582620 Report

Quoted By: >>43582736

>>43582603
What happened with Incineroar? He seems good, but apparently isn't as dominant in this meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 21:49:34 No.43582736 Report

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>>43582620
Intimidate nerf and he's not as good in a meta with Dynameme.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 22:16:36 No.43582947 Report

Quoted By: >>43583007 >>43583234

Dragon mommy can't keep getting away with this bros, someone stop her

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 22:22:59 No.43583007 Report

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>>43582947
>Bisharp used Sucker Punch
LMAO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 22:25:22 No.43583025 Report

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>>43580307
PFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 22:45:19 No.43583216 Report

Quoted By: >>43583791

>>43580307
I haven't played VGC for 2 months, what's changed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 22:47:38 No.43583234 Report

Quoted By: >>43584209

>>43582947
Put back pursuit and no one will use her

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 23:13:41 No.43583446 Report

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>>43582603
Dragapult having such high usage isn't so bad because at least Dragapult movesets vary wildly.

Fuck Togekiss though, they're all the fucking same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 23:53:57 No.43583791 Report

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>>43583216
this is singles, battlespot.

>whats changed

see for yourself

https://www.pikalytics.com/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 00:38:21 No.43584115 Report

Quoted By: >>43584199

>>43582736
>Intimidate nerf
huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 00:46:54 No.43584199 Report

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>>43584115
Inner Focus, Own Tempo, Oblivious, and Scrappy now make you immune to Intimidate.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 00:47:56 No.43584209 Report

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>>43583234
>pursuit
>VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 01:50:46 No.43584617 Report

Quoted By: >>43584679 >>43585697 >>43586098

>>43583007
Sucker punch doesn't hit if dragapult is pressing support moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 01:57:31 No.43584655 Report

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>if dragapult is pressing support moves.
So, just press until it hits or changes.
In doubles, Dragapult support doesn't see, that I know of

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 01:58:11 No.43584659 Report

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>>43580307
Meme format for crayon munchers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 02:01:48 No.43584679 Report

Quoted By: >>43584713 >>43585739 >>43585830 >>43586047 >>43586098

>>43584617
>if dragapult is pressing support moves.
So, you just press until it hits or changes.
In doubles, Dragapult support isn't seen, that I know of

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 02:07:38 No.43584713 Report

Quoted By: >>43585618 >>43585682 >>43585697 >>43586276

>>43584679
Ally switch and dual screens?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 02:22:52 No.43584798 Report

Quoted By: >>43585231

>>43580307
I'm guessing dynameme made lapras good? What does it usually run?

YES

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YES Sat 16 May 2020 02:44:40 No.43584914 Report

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YES

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 03:29:56 No.43585231 Report

Quoted By: >>43586052

>>43584798
Freeze Dry, Hydro Pump, and Protect (everything in VGC carries protect).
Usually holds Light Clay so that G-Max Resonance's dual screens last longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 03:34:12 No.43585264 Report

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>>43580307
It's refreshing to see no legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 04:40:40 No.43585618 Report

Quoted By: >>43585626

>>43584713
>Ally Switch
Maybe but this isn't as supportive as we say, just for to troll.
>Dual Screens
It doesn't have good defenses, so if it has Light Clay, it will only put at least one screen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 04:41:59 No.43585626 Report

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>>43585618
*Support
Sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 04:52:16 No.43585682 Report

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>>43584713
Also a Knock off of Bisharp, Foul Play of Grimmsnarl, would be answers for Dragapult

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 04:55:29 No.43585697 Report

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>>43584713
>>43584617
Scarf Hydreigon and G-Darma are answers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 05:01:07 No.43585727 Report

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>>43580307
One of the best seasons I've seen.

The May challenge is gonna be fucking chaos though, especially with all the worlds qualifiers back in the fray.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 05:04:08 No.43585739 Report

Quoted By: >>43586205

>>43584679
It is and it's absolute overrated shit.

JUST USE GRIMMSNARL FOR FUCKS SAKE. IT DOES THE EXACT SAME THING BUT AT PRIORITY

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 05:19:14 No.43585820 Report

Quoted By: >>43585839

>>43580307
My friend went around a bunch of popular VGC youtubers like Cybertron, Baz Anderson, etc and compiled a list of every Pokemon he saw on teams for each player playing on cart ladder within the past 2ish weeks. Not counting the same team the tuber was playing multiple times, this is what he compiled. Hope this helps some people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 05:20:43 No.43585830 Report

Quoted By: >>43585845 >>43586205 >>43586276

>>43584679
>In doubles, Dragapult support isn't seen, that I know of
which makes no sense to me. He's one of the fastest Willowispers, screeners, and has Ally Switch. Hell I ran Willo on him for a minute and it worked somewhat well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 05:21:58 No.43585839 Report

Quoted By: >>43585851

>>43585820
seems about right. Primarina's popularity is rather surprising though. Haven't seen much of it on cart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 05:23:30 No.43585845 Report

Quoted By: >>43585859

>>43585830
Hmmm. I usually think Draga support is garbage thanks to it being a worse Grimmsnarl, but the idea of replacing Sucker Punch with Wisp on my set is... interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 05:24:26 No.43585851 Report

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>>43585839
It's essentially a variant of Sylveon, bulky fairy with good SpA, just with the water typing. Liquid Voice gives it another flavor of Hyper Voice.
I actually wanted to try an Echoed Voice team with pixelate and liquid voice users, but alas it hasn't been a TM for a whole generation now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 05:26:22 No.43585859 Report

Quoted By: >>43586000

>>43585845
Snarl has good typing but terrible bulk, his base health can't make up for bad defenses unless you fully invest, which does his high attack no good. Drag has awkward defensive typing and mediocre defenses, but the natural speed and massive versatility. I'd say both can get good milage. Too bad Gmax Snarl is kind of hard to pull off if you don't cater your entire team around supporting it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 05:49:51 No.43586000 Report

Quoted By: >>43586098 >>43586592

>>43585859
My whole issue with it boils down to the fact that "Very Fast" is NOT the same thing as outright Priority.

Also, the main moveset for Supportpult online uses Draco Meteor as the only attacking move, which is fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 05:59:20 No.43586047 Report

Quoted By: >>43586074

>>43584679
He sometimes runs a support set with Surf and Dual Screens with GMax Coalossal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 06:00:22 No.43586052 Report

Quoted By: >>43586163 >>43586712

>>43585231
>everything in VGC carries protect
1000 elo post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 06:04:39 No.43586074 Report

Quoted By: >>43586093

>>43586047
But this only specific, its as with Weavile and Surf, too.
Anon said that Support Draga is used but the reality others variants are betters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 06:07:03 No.43586093 Report

Quoted By: >>43586138 >>43586162

>>43586074
Everything in VGC is team specific. You cannot just randomly slap a bunch of high usage mons and call it a day. Well you can but your team wont see much success.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 06:08:00 No.43586098 Report

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>>43586000
Exactly, that's why I was saying to >>43584617 this >>43584679
I feel that Supportpult is good but in singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 06:16:16 No.43586138 Report

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>>43586093
Yes bro, but these specific strategies have much success, too. Since, for example, the focus on coalossal knocks down your entire strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 06:20:29 No.43586162 Report

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>>43586093
Yes bro, but these specific strategies are also not very successful. Since, for example, the focus to coalossal knocks down its entire strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 06:20:33 No.43586163 Report

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>>43586052
Not him, but if you take it as a hyperbole it holds water

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 06:23:10 No.43586172 Report

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>Primarina is the most used starter

I knew they would all eventually learn. Owl and Barasexuals be damned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 06:30:57 No.43586205 Report

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>>43585739
Yes bro, I prefer priority that speed, if I want a Willowisper as said anon >>43585830 I prefere Prankster Grimmsnarl, If I want Dual Screens, I prefer Prankster Grimmsnarl because you can use it vs a physical mon (Reflect) or a Special mon (Light screen) before they attack you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 06:34:36 No.43586223 Report

Quoted By: >>43586741

>>43580307
>Braviary
What does it do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 06:45:14 No.43586276 Report

Quoted By: >>43586600

>>43584713
>>43585830
Why Ally Switch in Draga? It's stupid. If do you know that Togekiss with Dazzling Gleam or Sylveon with Hyper Voice, OR OTHERS MOVE WITH DOUBLE DAMAGE EXIST?????

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 07:52:34 No.43586592 Report

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>>43586000
nice trips
it at least gives you a great turn 1 against TR teams, taunt is also an option

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 07:54:58 No.43586600 Report

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>>43586276
Ally Switch is typically used to defend the partner. One would not wish to waste its turn protecting itself nearly as often. Granted it's viable if you need to stall a turn, but not something to be relied frequently on the same Pokemon you're expecting productive damage output from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 08:22:25 No.43586712 Report

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>>43586052
Okay, some things carry detect or ally switch or some other move to make the opponent waste a move, but the vast majority carry protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 08:29:36 No.43586741 Report

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>>43586223
Physical Togekiss, sort of. No Follow Me but Defiant and Tailwind are nice. Good coverage with Close Combat too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 08:30:54 No.43586746 Report

Quoted By: >>43586766

I wish I had a sense of doubles teambuilding but I just can't keep at it
I wish I played pokemon competetively again, but smogon metas are so trash the last few gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 08:36:40 No.43586766 Report

Quoted By: >>43586799

>>43586746
Gen 8 is trash and Gen 6 is bland.
Gen 7 is one of the greatest metas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 08:43:51 No.43586799 Report

Quoted By: >>43586805

>>43586766
I didn't really enjoy it post-bank, and z-moves aren't really my thing in general, would honestly prefer gen 8 for the smaller dex and single gimmick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2020 08:45:39 No.43586805 Report

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>>43586799
Gen 8 is so fucking bad I can't really see how anyone would think that but whatever.

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