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Anonymous Sun 17 May 2020 22:31:31 No.43601091 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>43601104 >>43601145 >>43601249 >>43601387 >>43620224

Are monotypes at disadvantage?
Majority of top usage Pokemon dual-type.
The few top monotypes are usually defensive oriented (Clefable, Chansey, Tangrowth).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2020 22:32:51 No.43601104 Report

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>>43601091
>The few top monotypes are usually defensive oriented
because that’s the advantage monotypes have

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2020 22:37:55 No.43601145 Report

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>>43601091
most good pokemon introduced after gen 1 were dual typed, and monotypes were usually early game shitmons. most good monotypes tend to come from gen 1. gen 8 made an attempt to buck that trend with guys like Barraskewda and Sandaconda.

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Anonymous Sun 17 May 2020 22:54:38 No.43601249 Report

Quoted By: >>43601601 >>43601653 >>43612079

>>43601091
>Are Pokemon with 1 stab at disadvantage offensivelly?
Gee anon, why do you think there are suggestion for monotype to get 2.0x at stab has been flying around for years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2020 23:11:22 No.43601387 Report

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>>43601091
Yes.
Having only 1 STAB is objectively worse than having 2 STABs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2020 23:12:26 No.43601394 Report

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Monotypes have to be defensive because they only have 1 STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2020 23:35:51 No.43601601 Report

Quoted By: >>43603195

>>43601249
>Monotype w/ 2x STAB
dear God no, that would be busted beyond belief

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2020 23:41:55 No.43601653 Report

Quoted By: >>43602753

>>43601249
>making Protean even more busted
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 01:48:06 No.43602753 Report

Quoted By: >>43603183

>>43601653
Then just make Protean an exception.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 03:00:52 No.43603183 Report

Quoted By: >>43603204

>>43602753
It's not a well thought out way of solving things. So now the only good monotypes are the glass cannons? Not to mention that now any monotype or dual type without the excessive bulk needed to tank double STAB moves are that much more useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 03:02:50 No.43603195 Report

Quoted By: >>43610116 >>43613966 >>43615702

>>43601601
Monotype with 1.5x STAB
Dualtype with 1.25x STAB on each type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 03:04:40 No.43603204 Report

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>>43603183
No. Defensive monotypes are already good.

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Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 03:15:03 No.43603247 Report

Quoted By: >>43603330 >>43604731 >>43605286

>are monotypes at a disadvantage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 03:32:50 No.43603330 Report

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>>43603247
Garm has a hell of a lot of advantages to make up for that disadvantage, though.

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Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 05:48:06 No.43604251 Report

Quoted By: >>43615691

Dual types are better in general, but not always.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 07:01:29 No.43604731 Report

Quoted By: >>43604744

>>43603247
having another type would be offensively advantageous

only thing is you get extra weaknesses, with something like ice/fire it might actually be balanced

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 07:02:55 No.43604744 Report

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>>43604731
And it does get another type in Zen Mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 09:24:42 No.43605286 Report

Quoted By: >>43607309 >>43616131

>>43603247
Yes.
Galarian Darm would be even better with another type.
Even Bug.
Especially Bug.
STAB U-Turn would be devastating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 16:07:27 No.43607309 Report

Quoted By: >>43609473

>>43605286
>loses 50% to sr
MUH HDB
>loses speed or power

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 19:50:16 No.43609473 Report

Quoted By: >>43616703

>>43607309
Hazard control is a thing for a reason.
Have a defogger or spinner on your team and unga bunga as much as you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2020 20:52:29 No.43610116 Report

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>>43603195
Hmmm. I kinda like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 00:22:10 No.43612079 Report

Quoted By: >>43613837

>>43601249
would be broken for shit like electric
unless you add another resistance to it, maybe from steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 03:58:26 No.43613837 Report

Quoted By: >>43613872

>>43612079
Electric types are shit anyway. They need all the help they can get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 04:04:43 No.43613872 Report

Quoted By: >>43614221 >>43616690

>>43613837
Only one weakness
how are they shit? an electric type with levitate or part flying is basically invincible from super effective attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 04:18:50 No.43613966 Report

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>>43603195
Even worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 04:56:20 No.43614221 Report

Quoted By: >>43615697

>>43613872
How many electrics have the bulk to pull that off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 11:01:25 No.43615631 Report

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How about just giving every Monotype Pokémon a Secondary type, like they did during fairy conversion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 11:17:12 No.43615691 Report

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>>43604251
Mawilechads represent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 11:18:52 No.43615697 Report

Quoted By: >>43616119

>>43614221
Did Eelektross ever break into OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 11:19:45 No.43615702 Report

Quoted By: >>43616125

>>43603195
make it 1.3 on each stab and you're onto something. I always felt dual types having 2 options for an extra 50% damage was a bit busted

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 12:56:49 No.43616119 Report

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>>43615697
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 12:58:36 No.43616125 Report

Quoted By: >>43618346

>>43615702
How about we don’t do anything?
>I always felt dual types having 2 options for an extra 50% damage was a bit busted
Yeah you’re just a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 12:59:35 No.43616131 Report

Quoted By: >>43616614

>>43605286
>Litten used Ember!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 14:20:58 No.43616614 Report

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>>43616131
Darmanitan used Earthquake!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 14:31:41 No.43616690 Report

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>>43613872
Ah yes because being part Flying only comes with the Ground immunity and doesn't carry any sort of weakness to Rock or Ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 14:33:53 No.43616703 Report

Quoted By: >>43616937

>>43609473
>Dude just use two Pokémon to do the same thing as one so that one move does marginally more damage

Bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 15:09:28 No.43616937 Report

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>>43616703
Eh, I haven't played competitive in a couple years, but back when I did having a mon for dealing with arena hazards was a pretty sensible thing to do in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 18:05:54 No.43618346 Report

Quoted By: >>43618996

>>43616125
>pokemon being able to have twice as much stab as other pokemon despite those pokemon rarely being balanced with that in mind is totally fine guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 19:13:40 No.43618996 Report

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>>43618346
Exactly. What’s the issue?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2020 21:36:53 No.43620224 Report

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>>43601091
Yes.

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