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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 19:45:06 No.43696845 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>43696862 >>43696880 >>43697332 >>43697461 >>43700731 >>43705554

>Pokemon can now know up to five moves instead of four
How does the meta change?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 19:46:28 No.43696855 Report

Quoted By: >>43697372

coverage spreads and types like ice with a million weaknesses get even worse. the already OP mons like Greninja with 4MSS get even more powerful (especially greninja, lol, with protean)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 19:47:29 No.43696862 Report

Quoted By: >>43697278 >>43704615

>>43696845
Mons with 4mss get way better. Greninja, for example, can always make room for Gunk Shot to beat Clefable. Hell, Clefable can run CM, Softboiled, and 3 attacking moves. Most things with access to a boosting move now have a dedicated boosting move slot.

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 19:49:25 No.43696880 Report

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>>43696845
stupid butterfly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 20:37:47 No.43697278 Report

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>>43696862
or boost + heal + 3 attacks. Life Orb mons with semi-reliable or better recovery become much stronger.

On the flipside, RestTalk becomes much more prominent in stall comps. I suspect Suicune sees much more usage in OU as CM/Scald/RestTalk/coverage becomes able to play around water-immune mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 20:41:56 No.43697317 Report

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Charizard is much more viable now that it's able to run 5 fire attacks at once instead of 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 20:43:24 No.43697332 Report

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>>43696845
>five moves instead of four
I was just thinking about this today
Stong mons become stronger, shill mons meta hits new highs while everything else goes to shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 20:44:38 No.43697347 Report

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>>43697278
could run roar as a fifth move

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 20:46:48 No.43697372 Report

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>>43696855
Basically this, ice types just get worse while 4MS mons go absolutely wild.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 20:57:18 No.43697461 Report

Quoted By: >>43697523 >>43697707 >>43699440 >>43702226

>>43696845
>people thinking that smogon fanfic is "the meta"
lmao holy cringe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 21:03:27 No.43697523 Report

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>>43697461
Veggie Seas gets a dedicated Protect slot for everything.
There, happy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 21:20:34 No.43697653 Report

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>>43697523
I unironically want Protect to be its own combat option in Doubles, so I will take it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 21:26:47 No.43697707 Report

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>>43697461
Doubles are boring zoomer
All that matters are 6v6 singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 21:30:03 No.43697728 Report

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>>43697707
Tell that to TPCi and their tournament circuit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 May 2020 01:00:04 No.43699440 Report

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>>43697461
It is, though.
VGC is just a performance.
TPCi chose to make 4v4 doubles the official format, not because it's better or requires more skill, but because it's faster and they don't want audiences to get bored.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 May 2020 03:53:37 No.43700731 Report

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>>43696845
She needs to go back

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 May 2020 07:19:22 No.43702226 Report

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>>43697461
OP never specified a meta, baka.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 May 2020 09:21:45 No.43702764 Report

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>>43699440
And ultimately we ended up with GameFreak creating majority of competitive content with Doubles in mind. It can hardly be called a performance due to this.

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Anonymous Thu 28 May 2020 10:10:34 No.43702925 Report

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>Hydreigon
>Nidoking
>Excadrill
>Volcarona
>Genesect
>Corviknight

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 May 2020 10:43:32 No.43703042 Report

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>>43702764
Gamefreak created a majority of content with nothing in mind.
Like a monkey at a typewriter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 May 2020 16:06:31 No.43704615 Report

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>>43696862
Would any mons start to suffer from 5MSS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 May 2020 17:24:59 No.43705269 Report

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Jolteon finally gets to use hyper voice for normal coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 May 2020 17:28:36 No.43705302 Report

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>>43704615
A lot of support mons in doubles would STILL want more options. Grimmsnarl could run sucker punch, dual screens, thunder wave, and Spirit break but still want room for protect, taunt, swagger, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 May 2020 17:59:32 No.43705554 Report

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>>43696845
Better way to do it:
>Certain Pokémon can select "EX Moves", using the same menu as Z-Moves. Each time you use one, it costs 1PP from all four move slots. You can't use them while one of your moves is Disabled or out of PP.

Some abilities grant an EX Move, e.g.
>Anticipation = *Detect
>Hyper Cutter = *Cut
>RKS System = *Multi-Attack
>Truant = *Slack Off
As can some moves, e.g.
>Spit Up = *Stockpile
>Swallow = *Stockpile
>Transform = *Transform (can be used as an EX move even after transforming)

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