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Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 02:41:57 No.43710217 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>43710250 >>43710293 >>43710778 >>43710792 >>43712149

>Great 135 base Def and Sp. Def and a good 100 base Attack
>Its strongest physical STAB has a base power of just 60, but because of its shitty speed it has to settle for a priority move with 40 base power
>Its high defenses aren't very useful because of its extremely low base HP

Dusknoir didn't deserve this...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 02:44:44 No.43710250 Report

Quoted By: >>43710309 >>43710333 >>43710435 >>43710705

>>43710217
How come high HP with low defenses is better than low HP with high defenses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 02:49:21 No.43710293 Report

Quoted By: >>43710313

>>43710217
>and a good 100 base Attack
Not anymore, with powercreep being powerful and creepy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 02:51:02 No.43710309 Report

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>>43710250
probably helps by being normal instead of ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 02:51:47 No.43710313 Report

Quoted By: >>43710412

>>43710293
100 isn't god tier or anything, but it's still good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 02:54:36 No.43710333 Report

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>>43710250
>How come high HP with low defenses is better than low HP with high defenses?
Is that so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 03:00:55 No.43710386 Report

Quoted By: >>43710630

>Remove 35 points from Sp. Attack (65 -> 30) and put them in HP (45 -> 80)
>It's now Ghost/Electric with levitate
>Dusknoir eats people with the giant mouth in its belly. Give it a signature move based on that, maybe a ghost type crunch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 03:03:09 No.43710412 Report

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>>43710313
Nah, it's decent at best, but not good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 03:07:39 No.43710435 Report

Quoted By: >>43711387

>>43710250
it's just more effecient as a stat
no matter what category damage you are taking, more HP will help you
if you have a high defense and take a special attack, you might as well not have that defense

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 03:34:09 No.43710630 Report

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>>43710386
>>It's now Ghost/Electric with levitate
Retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 03:44:50 No.43710705 Report

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>>43710250
It's not. what matters is reliable recovery.
Wailord is theoretically as bulky as Toxapex in most situations, but the reason why people use Toxapex over Wailord as a wall any day because Toxapex has Recover and Regenerator and Wailord has to rely on something like Rest for recovery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 03:58:28 No.43710778 Report

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>>43710217
ghost
type
drain
punch
solves every problem it has all at once

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 04:00:41 No.43710792 Report

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>>43710217
pain split?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 05:47:29 No.43711387 Report

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>>43710435
Not necessarily.
When it comes to EV's, you get diminishing returns. So the higher a base stat, the less valuable increasing the EV's would be.
Even something like Avalugg benefits more from HP EV's than Defense EV's, despite the fact that you'd never use Avalugg to take special hits.
This means low HP/high defenses mons get more bang for their buck because they can increase their overall bulk for less than the cost of only increasing half of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 May 2020 08:53:54 No.43712149 Report

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>>43710217
All he needed was reliable recovery and for Shadow Punch to be buffed to 75 BP like the other elemental punches.
It would've been so easy to make Dusknoir good.

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