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These are the mons banned from UU

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:41:59 No.43774484 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>43774493 >>43774582 >>43774626 >>43774692 >>43774810 >>43774822 >>43774876 >>43774904 >>43775528 >>43775814 >>43775887

Say something nice about them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:43:13 No.43774493 Report

Quoted By: >>43775462

>>43774484
weird how 9/10 are powerful offensive pokemon that can set up easily or are unhindered by status

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:55:01 No.43774582 Report

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>>43774484
Weavile is a cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 20:57:57 No.43774603 Report

Quoted By: >>43780107

How do we save UU bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:01:36 No.43774626 Report

Quoted By: >>43774668 >>43775551 >>43775574

>>43774484
Reminder that all of these fuck UU offense just as much, if not more in certain cases, than UU stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:06:47 No.43774668 Report

Quoted By: >>43775406

>>43774626
>offensive pokemon do damage
yes, that's how it works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:09:39 No.43774692 Report

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>>43774484
>muh stall
smogon is fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:22:48 No.43774810 Report

Quoted By: >>43774854

>>43774484
as far back as i can remember weavile has always been BL

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:24:30 No.43774822 Report

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>>43774484
I'm happy Venusaur is good, and competitively better than Zard or Blastoise

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:26:55 No.43774854 Report

Quoted By: >>43774887

>>43774810
>Pokemon that's A rank in gen 6 and has been commonly used pretty much the whole gen has always been in UUBL

If you don't play, why do you feel the need to comment?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:29:07 No.43774876 Report

Quoted By: >>43774951 >>43775919

>>43774484
Why the fuck are they even allowed to ban from UU? The entire point of the tiering system is to make it so all Pokemon can be usable, it completely defeats the purpose when you banish mons from a tier below OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:30:03 No.43774887 Report

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>>43774854
To his credit, I remember Weavile jumping in and out between OU and BL every other month for a while that gen. We even had threads on here complaining about the lack of ice types in OU because of it, and people would be glad whenever Weavile or Mamoswine moved up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:32:01 No.43774904 Report

Quoted By: >>43774933

>>43774484
If they were banned from UU, doesn't that means they are OU now?

>in4 fanfic metagame
lol

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:33:16 No.43774919 Report

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This is the shit-eating grin of a pokemon that knows he makes smogonfags rage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:35:02 No.43774933 Report

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>>43774904
No, those pokemon are not refined enough for the intellectual OU players and as such are not used in their meta and relegated to Smogon Purgatory

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:37:40 No.43774951 Report

Quoted By: >>43775018

>>43774876
UU doesn't have the same obligations as OU, and because of the retarded rule where usage means you can't use a mon from the higher tiers, UU struggles to have good walls because most of the good ones are in OU.
This means it and many lower tiers have to be balanced around what walls they do have and offensive mons are overwhelmingly banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:46:07 No.43775018 Report

Quoted By: >>43775099 >>43775466

>>43774951
or they could just accept that not all archetypes have to be viable and stop forcing stall

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:54:00 No.43775099 Report

Quoted By: >>43775110 >>43775289 >>43775316 >>43775362

>>43775018
STOP WITH THE FUCKING STALL BOOGEYMAN
HOLY SHIT IT'S ALREADY UNVIABLE.
NOT EVERY BAD FUCKING THING IN SINGLES IS BECAUSE OF STALL
FUCKING CHRIST GIT GUD AND STOP LETTING STALL LIVE RENT FREE INSIDE OF YOUR HEAD LIKE A EVERY OTHER OTHER /vp/drone THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND STILL HAS FLASKBACKS TO GEN 3 SKARMBLISS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 21:54:49 No.43775110 Report

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>>43775099
t. someone who uses stall teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:12:37 No.43775289 Report

Quoted By: >>43780111

>>43775099
but it's a fact that UU """council""" forces the meta to include stall
they've even admitted it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:15:02 No.43775316 Report

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>>43775099
>We banned these offensive pokemon because most of the pokemon we would use to wall them are OU.
>Maybe you should change your play style instead of trying to wall everything forever.
>STOP WITH THE FUCKING STALL BOOGEYMAN
This is your mind on stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:19:29 No.43775362 Report

Quoted By: >>43775483

>>43775099
>HOLY SHIT IT'S ALREADY UNVIABLE.
Yes. Nobody's arguing that.
UU's stallfag council knows that better than anyone, which is why they feel the need to ban anything with any offensive presence.
They know their play style of choice can't be viable in a meta that emerges naturally and they need to carefully cultivate the meta to be that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:23:02 No.43775406 Report

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>>43774668
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:27:21 No.43775462 Report

Quoted By: >>43778196

>>43774493
>What is Venusaur?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:27:35 No.43775466 Report

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>>43775018
Venusaur sucked against stall so I don’t know what you’re trying to say here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:28:50 No.43775483 Report

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>>43775362
Based retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:32:34 No.43775528 Report

Quoted By: >>43776346

>>43774484
>Durant
>Weavile
>Obstagoon

Why are these things banned? Two of them are 4x weak to one of the most common fighting types ever and 1 literally requires not getting hit by fire coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:34:07 No.43775551 Report

Quoted By: >>43775626

>>43774626
Pretty sure Weavile can't fuck up UU offense because UU offense would have at least one fighting type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:36:10 No.43775574 Report

Quoted By: >>43775646

>>43774626
>UU offense but it doesn't use the good offensive Pokemon is fucked by teams using the good Pokemon

Woah...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:40:18 No.43775612 Report

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>UU always ends up looking like the OU from 1 or 2 generations ago
>UU bans pokemon that follow this trend completely in favour of some weird style they want to follow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:41:25 No.43775626 Report

Quoted By: >>43775656 >>43775727 >>43775783

>>43775551
Almost none of them can switch into Weavile

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:42:34 No.43775646 Report

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>>43775574
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:43:30 No.43775656 Report

Quoted By: >>43775745

>>43775626
Lucario?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:49:18 No.43775727 Report

Quoted By: >>43775826

>>43775626
I mean sure, it sucks many of them are weak to Low kick.

But even checks dramatically weaken Weavile due to residual damage mattering more on a super frail pokemon like Weavile.

Also Bulky Arcanine exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:51:05 No.43775745 Report

Quoted By: >>43775772

>>43775656
>252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Low Kick (80 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lucario: 328-388 (116.7 - 138%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:53:29 No.43775772 Report

Quoted By: >>43775902

>>43775745
what if lucario has a float stone idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:54:44 No.43775783 Report

Quoted By: >>43775916

>>43775626
Has /vp/ always been a bunch of retards that think any mon you can't switch into in a theoretical worst case scenario is OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:57:54 No.43775814 Report

Quoted By: >>43775937

>>43774484
Literally all of them would improve UU 1except Venusaur which BTFO every pokemon in that pic in the sun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 22:59:28 No.43775826 Report

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>>43775727
>But even checks dramatically weaken Weavile due to residual damage mattering more on a super frail pokemon like Weavile.
They really don’t. Hazard control isn’t hard to come by, and most of these checks still can’t switch into Weavile
>Also Bulky Arcanine exists
Mostly used on balance teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 23:06:05 No.43775887 Report

Quoted By: >>43776434 >>43776857

>>43774484
>Wtf mamoswine 2 stronk literally no counter!
>Ban it!
>Wtf Venusaur in the sun is 2 stronk there's no mamoswine to revenge kill!
>Ban it!
>Wtf haxorus 2 stronk there's no mamoswine to revenge kill!
>Council: Ban it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 23:06:56 No.43775902 Report

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>>43775772
>252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Low Kick (60 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lucario: 248-292 (88.2 - 103.9%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
Nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 23:08:06 No.43775916 Report

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>>43775783
When did I say that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 23:08:14 No.43775919 Report

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>>43774876
If shit starts to centralize its banning time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 23:10:04 No.43775937 Report

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>>43775814
>Literally all of them would improve UU
No they wouldn’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2020 23:55:15 No.43776346 Report

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>>43775528
>Wtf Salamence sweeped my entire team but it has a x4 weakness so that means it's bad!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 00:05:06 No.43776434 Report

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>>43775887
It sucks, but if you don't ban it, then you will literally need to build your team around countering that specific mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 00:40:19 No.43776748 Report

Quoted By: >>43776806

Where'd Primarina go? Is it OU now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 00:48:53 No.43776806 Report

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>>43776748
Yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 00:56:33 No.43776857 Report

Quoted By: >>43776877

>>43775887
Okay, so instead of that, they should just leave in a mon that has no counterplay?
Just leave in everything broken because banning it might make something else broken?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 01:01:16 No.43776877 Report

Quoted By: >>43776903

>>43776857
This is why I hate Smogon tards insistence on using the word “counter”, a mon not having a switch in on every single attack it could theoretically have does not mean it has no counterplay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 01:04:58 No.43776903 Report

Quoted By: >>43776999

>>43776877
>a mon not having a switch in on every single attack it could theoretically have does not mean it has no counterplay.
No one said otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 01:18:20 No.43776978 Report

Quoted By: >>43778070 >>43780119

Lower tiers shouldn't be allowed to ban pokemon. The only tiers that really matter is OU and AG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 01:21:54 No.43776999 Report

Quoted By: >>43777057

>>43776903
>Okay, so instead of that, they should just leave in a mon that has no counterplay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 01:29:47 No.43777057 Report

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>>43776999
What does that have to do with “no counters=no counterplay”?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 03:49:19 No.43778070 Report

Quoted By: >>43778094

>>43776978
Shit take.
UU definitely goes too far with the banning, but sometimes banning really is necessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 03:52:37 No.43778092 Report

Quoted By: >>43778149

Why complain about a metagame that you clearly don’t even play?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 03:53:03 No.43778094 Report

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>>43778070
>UU definitely goes too far with the banning
No they don’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 04:01:33 No.43778149 Report

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>>43778092
Because despite claiming they don’t care about Smogon, it’s still the format they’re most familiar with. All these threads of them seething over Smogon, and only one thread about VGC right now, and nobody talks about BSS.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 04:10:03 No.43778196 Report

Quoted By: >>43779161

>>43775462
>what is 9/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 06:47:02 No.43779161 Report

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>>43778196
I thought the other 1 was Ninetales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 10:31:12 No.43780107 Report

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>>43774603
By adding more walls to the game.
If UU had decent walls that could handle the offensive threats that aren't good enough for OU, the stallfag bitch council wouldn't need to ban the offensive mons to protect stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 10:32:15 No.43780111 Report

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>>43775289
Source?
I've never heard anything about that, and stallfags are generally pretty opposed to admitting that they're stallfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 10:34:13 No.43780119 Report

Quoted By: >>43780153

>>43776978
OU nowadays is Ubers-Lite, and has been since Gen 6
Prove me wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 10:40:11 No.43780153 Report

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>>43780119
They don't play similarly at all.
Ubers always revolves around the top mons so heavily that it has a very distinct feel from any other tier.

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