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>>43782941
Scizor wouldn't get an opportunity to bullet punch.
If it switches in, Darm can blitz on it and easily KO it.
If it lets something die and tries to revenge kill, Darm can switch out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 20:55:45 No.43784052 Report

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>>43780393
Can't reach then when they're all the way down in OU and you're stuck all the way up in Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 21:06:55 No.43784158 Report

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>>43783895
Then Darm wouldn't get the opportunity to Flare Blitz, either. Can't really switch in on my Bullet Punch, can it? :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 21:33:29 No.43784392 Report

Quoted By: >>43784455 >>43789099

>>43784158
Are you clinically retarded? Why the fuck would Darmanitan switch into Scizor? The whole point is that Scizor can't switch in you low ladder expert.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 21:35:29 No.43784405 Report

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>>43780393
Was there anything that could stop Le Monkey Trouble in OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 21:41:42 No.43784455 Report

Quoted By: >>43784661 >>43786106

>>43784392
Why woyld darm be using flare blitz on the switch in

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 21:42:59 No.43784464 Report

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>>43782862
>specs
based retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 21:45:17 No.43784487 Report

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>>43782862
>Specs
Maybe if you're running a showderp Darmanitan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:01:10 No.43784648 Report

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>>43784405
There wasn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:02:13 No.43784661 Report

Quoted By: >>43784758 >>43784808

>>43784455
Predicting a Scizor switch in.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:02:30 No.43784666 Report

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Assume Metagross just switched in on a G-Darm.

> 252+ Atk Choice Band Gorilla Tactics Darmanitan-Galar Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Metagross: 408-482 (112 - 132.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:12:37 No.43784758 Report

Quoted By: >>43784821

>>43784661
So darm is good against scizor because you can read a switch in but scizor isnt good against darm because you dont switch in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:13:01 No.43784762 Report

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>>43782862
Now I want a pokemon with a choice specs ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:18:42 No.43784808 Report

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>>43784661
So instead of Scizor switch in a fire or water type to eat the Flare Blitz, then setup when he switches out due to being choiced into an NFE move,

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:19:12 No.43784821 Report

Quoted By: >>43784865 >>43787809

>>43784758
>bring in g-darm with a pivot
>predict opponents swap to scizor
>scizor dies

>bring in scizor with pivot
>predict opponents swap to G-Darm
>your prediction is wrong because who would switch a darm into scizor

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:20:56 No.43784838 Report

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>>43782862
>HA
>Specs

5/10 made me reply.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:24:16 No.43784865 Report

Quoted By: >>43784895 >>43784916 >>43784938 >>43784992 >>43785122

>>43784821
Allow me to rephrase your post
>bring in g-darm with a pivot
>predict opponents swap to scizor
>your prediction is wrong because who would switch a scizor into a darm

>bring in scizor with pivot
>predict opponents swap to G-Darm
>darm dies

You see how the way you phrase eveything it doesnt even matter what mons are being discussed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:27:14 No.43784895 Report

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>>43784865
Not him but what he said makes logical sense, these pokemon don't exist in a vacuum

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:29:23 No.43784916 Report

Quoted By: >>43784970

>>43784865
>bring in scizor with pivot
>predict opponents swap to G-Darm
>darm dies
Who tf is bringing a darm in on scizor

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:31:25 No.43784938 Report

Quoted By: >>43784980

>>43784865
You literally don't play, idiot. There is zero fucking reason to ever switch Darmanitan-Galar into a Scizor. Why the fuck would you ever do that unless you're predicting a double? It does however make sense to potentially switch in a Scizor into Darmanitan because it resists Icicle Crash and also potentially bulks an Earthquake or something. Then it obviously threatens out Darmanitan.

Do you understand now? You probably don't though because all your posts so far are beyond stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:34:27 No.43784970 Report

Quoted By: >>43784980 >>43784994 >>43787504

>>43784916
who tf is bringing a scizor in on darm

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:35:35 No.43784980 Report

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>>43784938
cringe

>>43784970
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:36:29 No.43784992 Report

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>>43784865
900 elo post

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:37:35 No.43784994 Report

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>>43784970
anyone who's hoping to punish an icicle crash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2020 22:52:33 No.43785122 Report

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>>43784865
allow ME to rephrase:
>predict gDarm switch
>switch into scizor
>use bullet punch or force gDarm out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 01:16:14 No.43786106 Report

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>>43784455
gee maybe Team Fucking Previe
if you can predict a zoroark
obviously you can see a scizor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 05:14:32 No.43787504 Report

Quoted By: >>43787831

>>43784970
Exactly.
You shouldn't bring Scizor in on Darm because it's not a good counter.
At best, Darm's player guesses wrong, hits with something other than Flare Blitz, and then immediately switches out.
At worst, you get Flare Blitzed and Scizor instantly dies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 06:23:10 No.43787809 Report

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>>43784821
This. That anon is actually retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 06:29:53 No.43787831 Report

Quoted By: >>43787849

>>43787504
>At best, Darm's player guesses wrong, hits with something other than Flare Blitz, and then immediately switches out
That would put the Scizor player in a favorable position because they can click u turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 06:35:57 No.43787849 Report

Quoted By: >>43787933

>>43787831
Darm clicks u-turn often though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 06:54:50 No.43787933 Report

Quoted By: >>43788173

>>43787849
The whole situation is based on reads, outplaying, and assessing risk/reward but the point is switching Scizor into Darmanitan-G is a realistic play that could happen while the opposite is not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 08:11:55 No.43788173 Report

Quoted By: >>43788176

>>43787933
>switching Scizor into Darmanitan-G is a realistic play
Yeah, if you have 1000 elo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 08:12:25 No.43788176 Report

Quoted By: >>43788773

>>43788173
post yours hotshot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 10:48:41 No.43788773 Report

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>>43788176
1001. Get on my level, noob.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 11:05:27 No.43788855 Report

Quoted By: >>43788914

G-Darm is a chad. The rape ape.
Was truly gone too soon. People really scared of a 95 speed fuck truck. They don't understand speed tiers. Truly sadness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 11:17:17 No.43788914 Report

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>>43788855
>They don't understand speed tiers.
To be desu I think you're the one who doesn't understand speed tiers.
95 is ridiculous for a breaker in the dex cull meta and it leaves the scarf set with nothing naturally faster than it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 11:22:59 No.43788946 Report

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>>43780393
>Wobbuffet used Counter!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 11:32:56 No.43788993 Report

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>>43780421
OP already said Metagross lmao, what's a Scizor to do

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 11:55:20 No.43789099 Report

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>>43784392
I'm mocking you, dummy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 11:58:13 No.43789105 Report

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>>43788993
>252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Darmanitan-Galar: 518-612 (147.5 - 174.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
> 252+ Atk Choice Band Metagross Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Darmanitan-Galar: 356-420 (101.4 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Deal more damage?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 12:05:13 No.43789130 Report

Quoted By: >>43789149

>>43780393
>outspeed by landorus
>gets one-shoted by stone edge and rock slide after stelth rocks even if lando is using a choice scarf with no attack investment
>literally can only kill landorus as a revenge choice scarf user and that is if landorus doesn't have a scarf of its own
Nice counter lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 12:10:58 No.43789149 Report

Quoted By: >>43789163

>>43789099
>say retarded shit about switching in Darmanitan into Scizor as a "counterargument" scenario
>heh what I said wasn't non-sensical because I put a smiley at the end, I was mocking you by saying something stupid

Shut the fuck up, you absolute mouthbreather. Negative elo retards like you shouldn't be allowed to post.

>>43789130
>thinks Lando is faster than Darmanitan

Another genius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 12:14:21 No.43789163 Report

Quoted By: >>43789173

>>43789149
Incarnate forme is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 12:17:28 No.43789173 Report

Quoted By: >>43789192

>>43789163
Yeah and Incarnate is always banned to Ubers even in natdex because 101 speed plus Sheer Force is too much for OU.

>but VGC

Nobody uses Incarnate in VGC. It's always Therian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 12:23:06 No.43789192 Report

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>>43789173
Oh I'm not him, just pointing out what I assume he meant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 12:36:21 No.43789237 Report

Quoted By: >>43789262

Nobody is switching on nobody for fucks sake. Also Darmanitan doesnt even need to predict anything, he can literally get away with using icicle crash which Im pretty sure does at least 50% damage to Scizor so it doesnt even need to go for flare blitz. Not like Scizor would ever switch on him, unless the opponent doesnt mind sacking him/getting weakened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2020 12:42:09 No.43789262 Report

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>>43789237
>252 Atk Gorilla Tactics Darmanitan-Galar Icicle Crash vs. 248 HP / 16+ Def Scizor: 98-116 (28.5 - 33.8%) -- 0.5% chance to 3HKO
>252 Atk Gorilla Tactics Darmanitan-Galar Icicle Crash vs. 164 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 110-129 (34.1 - 40%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>252 Atk Gorilla Tactics Darmanitan-Galar Icicle Crash vs. 248 HP / 144 Def Scizor: 96-113 (27.9 - 32.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Earthquake is a 2HKO on almost every set with Rocks.

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